2020 Presidential Race

The far right has killed far more people and they have threatened to kidnap and kill a governor.

We can go round and round on this but part of the problem is that people need to recognize the shortcomings on their own side.

Those people aren't on my side and the leader of the group had an ANTIFA sign in his bedroom lmao. He didn't vote Republican.
 
Yeah a few population centers that account for the majority of the us population l. I don’t know how this is hard to understand.
I don't know why you can't understand why the FF's thought to prevent that from happening. There had to be compromise to make unification worth it for the individual states. The U.S. didn't just spring into existence as one country. It's in the name. "United States of America" Now fifty states united. Each state gets a voice and is not ruled over by another state. Seems like a simple concept to me, but some struggle to understand.
 
Trump can either act like an adult and concede gracefully or get thrown out like a child kicking and screaming. His choice...
Or take it up to the supreme court. Too much evidence of fraud just out of online media. It's a 1000 times worse in those buildings where the ballots are being counted.
 
Yeah why update something that was put in place 200 years ago when the landscape was completely different and the whole reason it was put in place was to ensure that slave holding states could wield as much power as the north.

The US would not break up because of this. You really think a system where the miniority rules is just? Haha

When the electoral college was devised there were more slave holding states than no slave holding.

Where the **** did you go to school?
 
I'll share with you what I've shared with others to describe the relationships between voters, states, and our federal government.

The three participants above are in a dance of governance. In this dance, no one is supposed to lead. All should have an equal footing...it is structured this way to prevent one's power and influence stepping on the others.
Citizens are represented by Representatives.
States are represented by Senate (since amended).
Federal concerns are represented by the President.
Much of the negotiation and concern when the states began the process of unionization dealt with assurances all 3 parties of the dance are protected.
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So you want less transparent and more easily compromised voting?

There must be a way to provide verification, double verification, triple verification. Email everyone a receipt, have them acknowledge, then forward to multiple locations. When count is done, compare the lists to be sure.

I am confident we are collectively smart enough to come up with a way to do this that is even more secure than currently.
 
Trump can either act like an adult and concede gracefully or get thrown out like a child kicking and screaming. His choice...
Or, he can have his day in court to ask that these irregularities and issues of poll watchers being left out be investigated. You know, just like the dems would do if this were the other way around.

Oh, and how did the Dems act the last 4 years? Russia Russia Russia!
 
I think partially it being force fed to people as well. The people at the top of these political machines make a lot of money. There are very few people at the top. Millions of people gives thousands a dollars every year to these machines. As a society, we are no further along than we were years ago. There are people that have been creating and passing laws more than 20 years. How can a 60,70,80 year old individual effectively legislate for a changing demographic, economy, society, world. So yes, we all have to change, but we can't change until we are able to have civil discourse. I am just as guilty about that as the next person.
I've been advocating Congressional term limits for years. But it goes beyond even that. You have people of influence who were never even elected, and that's a problem.
 
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I may be a naive idealist but I do not believe unity would dictate less appeal to the base(s). Liberty, economic stability, a better future for our kids, peace, justice, et al....the high minded themes are shared among the majority.

The unity ship has sailed and is never coming back to port. I don't think even a powerful external threat would bring us back together.

BALKANIZE now!
 
There must be a way to provide verification, double verification, triple verification. Email everyone a receipt, have them acknowledge, then forward to multiple locations. When count is done, compare the lists to be sure.

I am confident we are collectively smart enough to come up with a way to do this that is even more secure than currently.
Just go to the polls. When you put it online and the Republicans win, we will have to endure 10,000 threads from you about the Russians.
 
The far right has killed far more people and they have threatened to kidnap and kill a governor.

We can go round and round on this but part of the problem is that people need to recognize the shortcomings on their own side.

Hillary left ****ing American troops in Benghazi to die. The left are murderers.
 
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