2020 Presidential Race

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#74,186
marcusluvsvols said:
Thats funny as Hell because of the Trump voters here we have several engineers, doctors, nurses, and generally all the conservative posters here in the PF other than me seem to be quite wealthy, which doesn't often happen for fools....what you got going there, Big Pimpin?? I assume since you can look down your little bitch nose at all of us...that you must be a Rhodes Scholar with a self made fortune right???

Definitely. Otherwise you would be just another dumbazz liberal hypocrite like all the rest....long on mouth but desperately short on the azz to actually back that mouth up?

If wisdom comes with experience, and that's generally accepted; and experience comes only with time...or age, if you will....what does it tell a logical person that nearly all dumbazz college kids with zero real world knowledge vote liberal.......and the vast majority of older, wiser people vote conservative??

You have enough working braincells to follow a logical progression like that?

I would infer that either the entire older educated population is terribly wrong...

Or you're a liberal dumbazz and one day when you're all grown up...you will figure it out for yourself.
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Preach it bruh!
 
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volfan_89 said:
Because almost every President has released their tax returns. Trump said he would and never did. Like many other promises he made.
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The tax returns I want to see are the politicians like Biden - and particularly Biden's - that cover the years when the became multimillionaires on a modest salary. Returns that show how they did it - where the money came from, or the tax fraud from not reporting it. On the second part if you are ready to jump with the IRS would have detected fraud, then we never needed to see Trump's tax returns in the first place. But a lot of us really want to know how to become a millionaire on a congressional salary.
 
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AM64 said:
I think we can all agree that the mail in ballots were all for Biden and that they "flipped the script". We aren't going to agree at all on what you believe motivated the mail in ballots. Dems saw opportunity, seized it, and ran it back for the score - it's just that simple. The other part that we've pretty much all acknowledged is that Trump is abysmally poor as a communicator, and this year perhaps more than any other (WW2 is questionable) needed an effective leader - and the key to that is someone who can communicate effectively to calm the masses. Despite rosy election maps on election night, all the evidence about how this election would turn was there - you just had to open your eyes. look, and for most of us watch the train wreck play out.
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Everyone knew that the mail in ballots would favor Biden. Every pollster and expert in the business said that for the last 3 months, plus. And Trump knew it, too. That's why he went on the offense against them so much leading up to the election. Problem is, the system that elected him has also used mail in ballots. They just aren't that exotic. And the loser can always claim, with no evidence, that they were manipulated.

In this election, where states were allowed to count the mail in ballots as they came in, Biden started with a lead which dwindled and then was overtaken by election day voting by Trump. See e.g. Florida. But that is because Florida elections supervisors were allowed to count ballots as they came in.

Pa. was one of a number where Republican legislatures directed that no mail in ballots could even begin to be counted until November 3. So on that date, those states first tallied in person votes. And as in Florida, those skewed to Trump. Then, they turned their attention back to the mail in ballots, which take longer to count because they have to be opened and verified. So as those finally got counted, they went towards Biden, just as in Florida.

The two claims you hear are that 1) ballots got added after the fact. Not true. Or 2) ballots are improperly being counted for Biden. But in those counting rooms where there is any question you have a GOP person and a Dem person that review it and if need be go to a tie breaker person.

It would take a HUGE number of those ballots to really be in question so as to make any difference because there just aren't that many of them. We'll know exact numbers on that later, but it seems like a truly impossibly small chance of any result changing data there. So small as to be disregarded as we move forward with the transition to a new administration.
 
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AM64 said:
The tax returns I want to see are the politicians like Biden - and particularly Biden's - that cover the years when the became multimillionaires on a modest salary. Returns that show how they did it - where the money came from, or the tax fraud from not reporting it. On the second part if you are ready to jump with the IRS would have detected fraud, then we never needed to see Trump's tax returns in the first place. But a lot of us really want to know how to become a millionaire on a congressional salary.
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Makes perfect sense. The candidate you don't like should have to show his tax returns (which I believe he has), but the one you support and that continues to lie about his shouldn't have to. Very logical.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Those are some pretty hefty salaries. I doubt that comes to pass for that reason.
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Ratings and ads pay for it.

Multiple people would jump ship and leave fox that day.

Fox would implode overnight and this new network would take its place.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
It’s amazing how the rhetoric is word for word among Trumpers. Lack of original thought coupled with low information leads to what we see today.
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You people always personally attack somebody you don't agree with. I've been to a lot of these "blue" cities and seen the decay first hand. Have you ever been to a place like Detroit? It's amazing to me that minorities continue to vote for the same from Democrats. But Trump did the unthinkable this election and more minorities than ever voted for a Republican candidate since 1960 voted for him. They're waking up to reality.

Democrats are trying to steal this election by submitting illegal ballots that are not in compliance with state law. Illegal ballots disenfranchise every legal voter who followed the law and won't be allowed to stand. What really pisses off the left is that Trump wont just roll over and concede in typical weak Republican fashion. He's going to litigate this and force the issue to where the Supreme Court forces the states to follow their own law. Lots of bogus ballots submitted after November 3 are going to be invalidated.

Joe is going to falsely proclaim victory tonight but this thing will not end until it's been to the courts. And regardless of the outcome guess who is president until Jan 20th.
 
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