2020 Presidential Race

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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I guess I didn't realize you were the type that liked to play word games, which is all your first sentence is.

As to your second point, I'm fairly certain that it wasn't the republican citizens that were in favor of the PA Supreme Court allowing votes to arrive 3 days late and still be counted, especially those with no post mark to be "presumed to have been mailed by Election Day" unless there was strong evidence to suggest otherwise. So in this case it is the PA Democratic Party that is taking rights away from many of it's citizens, with the other citizens turning a blind eye because it fits their agenda.
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I'm not playing word games, I'm being literal.

Republican or Democrat they are all PA citizens and can work to change the mechanisms within their state. Once the federal government takes over they no longer have that power.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
It's like they knew what they were planning. Lol

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That doesn't make any sense. Donald Trump is the one who is behind by at least 12,000 votes in at least 3 states that he must win, and we are only one week out from the election. If the vote counting stops right this minute... Biden has won. There is no chance in hell that Trump's legal team is going to get over 12,000 ballots thrown out in 3 different states. Trump's only chance (albeit slight) is to keep counting as many ballots as can be included and hope that makes a difference. Sorry, but there isn't going to be 50,000 ballots across 3 separate jurisdictions thrown out.
 
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Orange defense said:
Biden will never be president this time around. This election will be won be by Trump.
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The only way Biden isn’t named POTUS is if Trump and company somehow subvert the will of the American people.

I’m pretty sure your side is supposed to be all about the people, right? Small government and all that? Seeking to subvert the will of the American people is NOT small government, my dude. It’s authoritarian rule.

But maybe you’re just really into dom/sub relationships?
 
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MarcoVol said:
The only way Biden isn’t named POTUS is if Trump and company somehow subvert the will of the American people.

I’m pretty sure your side is supposed to be all about the people, right? Small government and all that? Seeking to subvert the will of the American people is NOT small government, my dude. It’s authoritarian rule.

But maybe you’re just really into dom/sub relationships?
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It won't be by forced rule, it will be done fair and square. After they fix this election, Trump will win it outright.
 
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hog88 said:
You have an inside track to a ruling not released yet?
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I do.

Republicans had the opportunity to strike Obamacare down, but they didn't. THANK YOU JOHN MCAIN!

SCOTUS now looks at this, and they're like, "Uhhh... why are you GOP dudes here asking us to do something, when you had the opportunity and didn't."

The. End.

Roberts and Kavanaugh seem OK with keeping most of the law intact

Simply put, Chief Justice John Roberts saved Obamacare in 2012, famously (or infamously, depending on your point of view) calling the mandate to buy health insurance a tax. Trump and the GOP-controlled Congress zeroed out that penalty three years ago, giving Republicans -- including the Trump administration -- an opening to come back to court. If the tax is gone, they say, the logic for keeping the law is gone.
The biggest question is whether the court, should it agree with that logic, would kill the entire law or simply sever the mandate section.

You don't always get statements as direct as this one from Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Trump's second appointee to the bench: "I tend to agree with you on this very straightforward case for severability under our precedents, meaning that we would excise the mandate and leave the rest of the act in place reading our severability precedents," Kavanaugh told Don Verrilli, the attorney for the Democratic-led US House of Representatives, which is defending the law because the Trump administration won't.

That would be the ballgame.

"Even if there are five votes to strike down a zero-penalty individual mandate, Kavanaugh has made clear he thinks that provision can be severed from the rest of the ACA (and we already know the chief feels that way)," said Steve Vladeck, a CNN legal analyst and University of Texas Law professor. "There is therefore no way to count to five votes to throw out the entire statute."
 
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Orange defense said:
Oh, by the time the Trump team, and the supreme court gets done, Trump will be president.
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There are 3 questions that I would like to ask here:

1) Do you consider the Supreme Court to be a political body?

2) Do you think of the 6 conservative justices on the Supreme Court to be an extension of the Trump administration?

3) If you answered yes to the 2nd question, do you think that the 3 justices that Donald Trump nominated (Neil Gorsuch, Bret Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett) to the Supreme Court owe loyalty to Trump and should therefore do everything that they can to help him win this election, regardless of what the United States Constitution or the law says?

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This will be interesting. I have said this before, it's not a fair and honest election that Trump supporters want. They just a Trump victory, at any and all cost. You really aren't as different from the crazy liberals as you like to think.
 
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Orange defense said:
It won't be by forced rule, it will be done fair and square. After they fix this election, Trump will win it outright.
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So I was right that you are into fantasies, just not the one I assumed.

Gotta respect your commitment to this. Reminds me of myself when I think every offseason the Vols are back and we’re gonna go 10-2. Despite all the evidence against it, I somehow talk myself into it.
 
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