2020 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
There are 3 questions that I would like to ask here:

1) Do you consider the Supreme Court to be a political body?

2) Do you think of the 6 conservative justices on the Supreme Court to be an extension of the Trump administration?

3) If you answered yes to the 2nd question, do you think that the 3 justices that Donald Trump nominated (Neil Gorsuch, Bret Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett) to the Supreme Court owe loyalty to Trump and should therefore do everything that they can to help him win this election, regardless of what the United States Constitution or the law says?

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This will be interesting. I have said this before, it's not a fair and honest election that Trump supporters want. They just a Trump victory, at any and all cost. You really aren't as different from the crazy liberals as you like to think.
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I'm not a liberal. This election should be done over. No ballots after the third should come in. All votes should be in person. This election is screwed up. This election has so many fraudulent holes, and is no good. I believe it will be fixed, and Trump wins fair and square. Trump didn't get a fair shake in this one. There is states with fraudulent voting everywhere,and it will be proven and overturned.
 
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vol4eva said:
The GOP are setting themselves up for a massive embarrassment that will linger over them like a shadow for years to come.

Trump and co are completely and utterly delusional.
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Are any outside of the Trump admin really pushing it? The PA guys were saying he had lost. GAs two are going to run offs, so they arent done yet. Havent heard of many GOPers pushing it.
 
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Orange defense said:
I'm not a liberal. This election should be done over. No ballots after the third should come in. All votes should be in person. This election is screwed up. This election has so many fraudulent holes, and is no good. I believe it will be fixed, and Trump wins fair and square. Trump didn't get a fair shake in this one. There is states with fraudulent voting everywhere,and it will be proven and overturned.
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Once again, keep the faith...

You seem to have a lot of confidence in Donald Trump's legal team. It appears as though Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, has taken the lead on trying to have ballots thrown out in states where Biden leads, due to (alleged) fraud. So, one last question:

Do you consider Rudy Giuliani to be honest, diligent, forthright and competent?
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
I think I’ll spend my evening prank calling these election fraud hotlines
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I dont usually watch in Jimmy Kimmel but happened to catch his monologue last night. He showed people prank calling the hotline. I keeled over when someone just played the Price Is Right fail trombone.

John Oliver also gave the email account for the fraud reports with subtle nudge for viewers to write in and write in often.
 
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Purple Tiger said:
History much? Didn't Trump cry fraud in 2016, too? Russian interference was confirmed by the CIA and a Senate Panel. Also, the 2016 election was the first in 50 years that did not adhere to the full protections of the Voting Rights Act.
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Yes, Trump claims everything he doesn’t win is rigged.

He also claimed the Iowa Caucus was rigged for Ted Cruz.

He also claimed The Emmys were rigged bc he didn’t win.

Anybody see a pattern yet?
 
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headhunter15 said:


She needs to speak with Hillary Clinton and the MSM first.
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Normally I wouldn’t engage over a click bait headline from The Blaze but...

I seem to recall Hillary Clinton conceding in less than 12 hours. Before anything was “certified” and by much smaller margins than Biden is currently winning by in the exact same states that swung the election against her.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Yes, Trump claims everything he doesn’t win is rigged.

He also claimed the Iowa Caucus was rigged for Ted Cruz.

He also claimed The Emmys were rigged bc he didn’t win.

Anybody see a pattern yet?
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And to show the difference in personalities and maturity, Ted Cruz today was chewing McCabes ear off in senate hearings this morning about Collusion gate and the Plot against Trump.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There are 3 questions that I would like to ask here:

1) Do you consider the Supreme Court to be a political body?

2) Do you think of the 6 conservative justices on the Supreme Court to be an extension of the Trump administration?

3) If you answered yes to the 2nd question, do you think that the 3 justices that Donald Trump nominated (Neil Gorsuch, Bret Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett) to the Supreme Court owe loyalty to Trump and should therefore do everything that they can to help him win this election, regardless of what the United States Constitution or the law says?
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Does anyone else see the mountain of irony in this line of questioning?
 
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MarcoVol said:
Yes, Trump claims everything he doesn’t win is rigged.

He also claimed the Iowa Caucus was rigged for Ted Cruz.

He also claimed The Emmys were rigged bc he didn’t win.

Anybody see a pattern yet?
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You have left out a few things:

Trump has now proactively claimed that two separate Presidential elections were rigged against him. He claimed the 2016 election was also rigged against him during the campaign. Conveniently, he stopped talking about that after he won.

Trump has also said that the Nobel Peace Prizes are rigged against him.

Trump has said that the Time "Man of the Year" is rigged against him, even though he had already won it once.

Trump casts himself as the perennial victim. He embraces victimhood, and he enjoys wallowing in self-pity. He has a fragile ego. He is not a resilient fighter... he is just the opposite, in fact.
 
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calban said:
And to show the difference in personalities and maturity, Ted Cruz today was chewing McCabes ear off in senate hearings this morning about Collusion gate and the Plot against Trump.
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The same Ted Cruz that kisses Trump’s azz all the time now? What a guy.

Ted Cruz circa 2016:

“It’s not easy to tick me off. I don’t get angry often. But you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that will do it every time. Donald, you’re a sniveling coward, and leave Heidi the hell alone,”

Yet now.....
 
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MarcoVol said:
That’s still 15,000 votes. Recounts don’t close a 15,000 vote gap.

Also Pennsylvania is really the only state that matters. Trump has no path to 270 without winning Pennsylvania.

Michigan isn’t close, Wisconsin is 20k votes, so that’s too large of a margin to make up.

But just for sh*ts and giggles let’s say something wild happened in AZ and WI and they flip to Trump. Heck let’s even throw in GA. Even with all that, Biden still wins the WH by winning Pennsylvania.

This is all an exercise in futility without Pennsylvania. Trump has no path to 270 without it.
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Biden's lead in PA is currently 49,153, or .73% of the votes cast. Seems like you guys have been claiming that recounts are reasonable if the margin is less than 1%. Since for whatever reason most of the mail it in voting apparently favors Biden, denial of late votes or something similar would seem likely hurt Biden's totals. You are thinking a vote or two here and there denied; a systemic error in the process could change things on a much larger scale. I don't care about the glitch here and there, my issue is the systemic issues in rushing a system that was never ready for prime time - that's likely the engineer in me. Where you want defect free products that are properly designed and tested, I want a defect free voting system that was correctly designed and tested - interesting that you don't seem to care about that.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Once again, keep the faith...

You seem to have a lot of confidence in Donald Trump's legal team. It appears as though Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, has taken the lead on trying to have ballots thrown out in states where Biden leads, due to (alleged) fraud. So, one last question:

Do you consider Rudy Giuliani to be honest, diligent, forthright and competent?
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I do have confidence in this team. I do have confidence in Rude Giuliani. I think Rudy is legit.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You have left out a few things:

Trump has now proactively claimed that two separate Presidential elections were rigged against him. He claimed the 2016 election was also rigged against him during the campaign. Conveniently, he stopped talking about that after he won.

Trump has also said that the Nobel Peace Prizes are rigged against him.

Trump has said that the Time "Man of the Year" is rigged against him, even though he had already won it once.

Trump casts himself as the perennial victim. He embraces victimhood, and he enjoys wallowing in self-pity. He has a fragile ego. He is not a resilient fighter... he is just the opposite, in fact.
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Let’s not forget that he actually convened a commission to investigate fraud in that 2016 election bc he couldn’t handle the fact he lost the popular vote.

That ended with a real thud.
 
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