2020 Presidential Race

[carlos86]

Lulz

 

[volinbham]

You'd think at a time like this the USPS would have a vested interest - and a no win situation. If the guy did what he did, that's a negative reflection on the USPS - a trust issue with the public they serve. If he lied about it, that's a negative reflection on the USPS - poor hiring judgement. Could actually be a stab at damage control by the USPS - you didn't say that - go along with us on this, and we'll keep you on - don't forget the pension.

absolutely - it's kinda nuts that the "Democracy Dies in Darkness" folks at WaPo would forget the "speak truth to power" and take the word of the powerful organization over the little guy/whistle blower but then you remember the little guy's information runs counter to their narrative.

Taibbi and Greenwald are dead on when they talk about how the press has invited in their old foils (Intel agency in particular) and actually treat them as the sources of truth rather than the sources of power that need to be held accountable.

 

[BenGrimm]

All swing states should be recounted. Trump can petition the ones he is behind in and Biden can petition the ones he is behind in.

Biden doesn’t need the ones he lost. Trump does.

Personally I don’t care if they recount. GA will be recounted. WI will be recounted. AZ most likely will be.

MI and PA are past the threshold but if Trump wants them recounted then he has to pay for it. We’ll see how that goes considering his campaign squandered nearly a Billion dollar cash advantage and is currently requesting donations for legal battles with the disclaimer that a portion of that donation will go to paying off pre-election campaign debts. But hey! He’s a successful self made business man. I’m sure he’ll figure out a way to pay for it.

No recount has EVER changed more than a few hundred votes and Biden is way too far ahead for even a generous amount of ballots being disqualified. Assuming they just be votes for him.

 

[volinbham]

The only thing a recount may do is help Perdue avoid a runoff in GA - maybe there are some House races that will be impacted; dunno.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[Orange_Crush]

So which amendment is it that invalidates an election if it's proven to be too fraudulent to redeem?

 

[OHvol40]

Sworn eyewitness testimony of voter fraud is evidence. They will have their day in court. Surely you want it to be investigated if fraud happened, right?

Sure. Again, if there were actual tangible evidence, it would be shouted from the rooftops. Especially with cash rewards like this...

There’s no evidence of widespread voter fraud, but Dan Patrick is encouraging people to report it with up to a $1 million reward

 

[volinbham]

Lulz

The basic message is correct. If there is fraud it should be exposed but it's extremely unlikely that there was enough fraud to swing the election.

Shouldn't we want to root out fraud either way?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Electric Orange]

 

[Velo Vol]

Uh oh.

Never mind.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The basic message is correct. If there is fraud it should be exposed but it's extremely unlikely that there was enough fraud to swing the election.

Shouldn't we want to root out fraud either way?

Especially if someone is trying to test what they can get away with. The answer should be “nothing “

 

[Orangeslice13]

Never mind.

Can both things not be true?

 

[allvol123]

Never mind.

How long can this go on? The idea that a bs narrative could be shoved down the throats of people for say, idk, 4 years, seems ludicrous.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Especially if someone is trying to test what they can get away with. The answer should be “nothing “

The charge should be sedition.

 

[volinbham]

Can both things not be true?

get outta my head slice

 

[NCFisher]

The basic message is correct. If there is fraud it should be exposed but it's extremely unlikely that there was enough fraud to swing the election.

Shouldn't we want to root out fraud either way?

Naw, man!...just smack the ass of the cow in front of you and keep the ‘Uncle Bernie’s Breadline’ moving; we’re getting hungry back here!

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

How long can this go on? The idea that a bs narrative could be shoved down the throats of people for say, idk, 4 years, seems ludicrous.

Who would do such a thing?

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Biden doesn’t need the ones he lost. Trump does.

Personally I don’t care if they recount. GA will be recounted. WI will be recounted. AZ most likely will be.

MI and PA are past the threshold but if Trump wants them recounted then he has to pay for it. We’ll see how that goes considering his campaign squandered nearly a Billion dollar cash advantage and is currently requesting donations for legal battles with the disclaimer that a portion of that donation will go to paying off pre-election campaign debts. But hey! He’s a successful self made business man. I’m sure he’ll figure out a way to pay for it.

No recount has EVER changed more than a few hundred votes and Biden is way too far ahead for even a generous amount of ballots being disqualified. Assuming they just be votes for him.

I doubt there has ever been a opportunity for fraud like this election. Let me provide some ball park numbers regarding mail in votes this election compared to 2016. I looked this up over the weekend and can not verify the accuracy at this time. They are just ball park estimates.

2016 election. President votes cast = 129m est.
mail in ballots 25% or 32m est.

2020 election. President votes cast = 148m est
Mail in ballots 50% or 74m est.

An increase of 42m est or 230% in mail in votes.

I believe there is opportunity for election fraud and believe a significant amount did. It may or may not make a difference in thr winner but it certainly deserves all the attention and review necessary to insure that we have the true outcome.
Trump is up to 72m which is 3 to 4 million more than Obama’s record in 2008. Biden is around 76m which is about 7m than Obama’s previous record total.
Biden stayed in his basement the whole year until the last month. He would have a couple of hundred cars show up for his rallies. Trump was bringing in up to 56k for recent rallies. Obama stumped for Biden a couple of weeks ago and 30 people showed up. The enthusiasm variance was astounding and even the liberal networks were commenting about the lack of enthusiasm for candidate Biden. Enthusiasm for a candidate usually demonstrates or translates into votes or election turnout.

See where I’m heading with this. Something is rotten with this election and it’s not Trump.

 

[carlos86]

The basic message is correct. If there is fraud it should be exposed but it's extremely unlikely that there was enough fraud to swing the election.

Shouldn't we want to root out fraud either way?

Trump’s own lawyers went before a federal judge and admitted that there is no voter fraud. Lol this is over.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Donald Trump is about to become the first presidential candidate to ever lose a state by 5 million votes (California). They definitely aren't feeling the love for the Cheeto in The Golden State.

 

[MarcoVol]

 

[MarcoVol]

A lot of the problem with PA is the way they basically moved election day 3 days by continuing to accept ballots after election days. They basically just made up their own rules

 

[carlos86]

I doubt there has ever been a opportunity for fraud like this election. Let me provide some ball park numbers regarding mail in votes this election compared to 2016. I looked this up over the weekend and can not verify the accuracy at this time. They are just ball park estimates.

2016 election. President votes cast = 129m est.
mail in ballots 25% or 32m est.

2020 election. President votes cast = 148m est
Mail in ballots 50% or 74m est.

An increase of 42m est or 230% in mail in votes.

I believe there is opportunity for election fraud and believe a significant amount did. It may or may not make a difference in thr winner but it certainly deserves all the attention and review necessary to insure that we have the true outcome.
Trump is up to 72m which is 3 to 4 million more than Obama’s record in 2008. Biden is around 76m which is about 7m than Obama’s previous record total.
Biden stayed in his basement the whole year until the last month. He would have a couple of hundred cars show up for his rallies. Trump was bringing in up to 56k for recent rallies. Obama stumped for Biden a couple of weeks ago and 30 people showed up. The enthusiasm variance was astounding and even the liberal networks were commenting about the lack of enthusiasm for candidate Biden. Enthusiasm for a candidate usually demonstrates or translates into votes or election turnout.

See where I’m heading with this. Something is rotten in America and this election and it’s not Trump.