2020 Presidential Race

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#79,927
volinbham said:
It's interesting that problems with the system cannot be discussed without linking to whether or not your team won. It's entirely possible for their to be problems with the system and Biden still won legitimately. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to solve problems with the system but the "winners" get real defensive about even asking the questions
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yup
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Question is, if it comes out that there was no fraud will you accept it? I'm betting you and your other cult members will not.
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Uuhhhhhhhh
I’ve already called Biden the winner and said I don’t think the level of fraud would be enough to overturn. So will I accept what I already have? Sure.
My candidate didn’t have a chance so I wasn’t winning anyway.

by cult members do you mean Messianic Jews?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Trump tweeted this morning that the voting software gave Biden hundreds of thousands of votes, and "lost" over a million of his votes. If he proves that as a "glitch" in the system, what happens to PA? If he proves it across several; battleground states as his tweet claims, what does that do?

I guess he hasn't proven motives behind it, so he's not calling it "fraud"? If he proves it happens, motives-be-damned, what happens?

Again, I haven't verified the numbers he's claiming, but the rudimentary scripts that I spent about 40 minutes on has spit out a number in the hundreds of thousands that were "lost" for Trump in PA.
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I would like to see evidence that this happened. However, making unsubstantiated claims on Twitter comes much easier to Donald Trump, than ever proving them does. Trump spends so much time airing grievances and complaining about mistreatment, that it all becomes white noise after a while. How do you know when to tell the difference between when he has a valid point to make, versus when he is just blowing smoke?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would like to see evidence that this happened. However, making unsubstantiated allegations on Twitter comes much easier to Donald Trump, than ever proving them does. Trump spends so much time airing grievances and complaining about mistreatment, that it all becomes white noise after a while. How do you know when to tell the difference between when he has a valid point to make, versus when he is just blowing smoke?
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I'm at least looking into the data with data analysis. How about you? (As such, I've given you access to evidence, if not proof.)

Now, answer my question... IF this proves out, what does the electoral map look like?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Uuhhhhhhhh
I’ve already called Biden the winner and said I don’t think the level of fraud would be enough to overturn. So will I accept what I already have? Sure.
My candidate didn’t have a chance so I wasn’t winning anyway.

by cult members do you mean Messianic Jews?
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But I also identify as Danic Hebrew
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm at least looking into the data with data analysis. How about you? (As such, I've given you access to evidence, if not proof.)

Now, answer my question... IF this proves out, what does the electoral map look like?
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What state(s) data were you looking at? If there is real question as to the results couldn't Trump's campaign request a recount?
 
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#79,936
Orangeslice13 said:
There are affidavits in several places. It will get investigated and reported on
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Oh, yeah... there were affidavits filed in Michigan which were used as evidence of fraud - one of the affidavits claimed it was suspicious that people in the military seemed to be voting for Biden. Another claimed voter intimidation because of how they were being "looked at" in their voting precinct. Hard hitting stuff.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would like to see evidence that this happened. However, making unsubstantiated claims on Twitter comes much easier to Donald Trump, than ever proving them does. Trump spends so much time airing grievances and complaining about mistreatment, that it all becomes white noise after a while. How do you know when to tell the difference between when he has a valid point to make, versus when he is just blowing smoke?
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Trump's lied FAR MORE OFTEN on twitter than he's ever told the truth. It's almost pathetic how some are grasping with him
 
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Wafflestomper said:
What state(s) data were you looking at? If there is real question as to the results couldn't Trump's campaign request a recount?
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I'm looking at PA. I'm also going back through my script as I get time to make sure I don't have any logic problems. As mentioned earlier, this is basically trench coding with little stringent testing. But at the very least, it has highlighted examples to manually look at, which prove out. (See earlier example posted.)
 
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volfanhill said:
November Surprise: Fewer Ballots Rejected by Election Officials


Essentially this is happening all over the country. And most election officials are crediting it to a few things:

Voters becoming more familiar with mail in voting
Voters taking more time to fill their ballot out
Better education and communication on how to fill these ballots out. Essentially a more educated electorate on the process.
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So there is no way it could be due to SOS's calling Trump voters neo nazi's or AG's guaranteeing Biden wins before the election day? Gotcha yeah more educated evidently you don't see the things I see on Twitter from both sides...Patton Oswalt accused the WH of having 3 Melania body doubles and the blue checks and Dems bought into it
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Oh, yeah... there were affidavits filed in Michigan which were used as evidence of fraud - one of the affidavits claimed it was suspicious that people in the military seemed to be voting for Biden. Another claimed voter intimidation because of how they were being "looked at" in their voting precinct. Hard hitting stuff.
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It was investigated and the truth came out.
See the system works
 
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jp1 said:
I dont pretend to know the reason for the change, but im not buying the becoming more familiar/better educated on the mail in process.
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Per the article, many more states now inform you exactly why your ballot was rejected in the first place. I think that would certainly help reduce the number of rejected ballots the next time around.
 
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#79,947
volfanhill said:
Per the article, many more states now inform you exactly why your ballot was rejected in the first place. I think that would certainly help reduce the number of rejected ballots the next time around.
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Perhaps....you apparently have more faith than I do in people.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
My script is multiplying total votes in update by % of vote share in candidate, which should give total votes per candidate.

Again, I'm not verifying that this is without excuse, or that there isn't a reasonable explanation. I'm just parsing the script to let the data speak. It doesn't prove Trump's claims, but it definitely gives pause for thought.
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Those percentages don't appear to have the sort of accuracy you would need to produce exact integers, so I don't think you can draw conclusions about them without the raw vote totals. It looks like the percentages here are just a rounded version just for website display. I assume those calculations are from their database backend or from the PA data if they are pulling it in direct.

PA reports in various formats available to be generated here:

Pennsylvania Elections - Report Center

Never hurts to look. Democracy needs eyes.
 
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