2020 Presidential Race

[NorthDallas40]

Or one congressional district, one vote.

Absolutely

Still have to allot the Senator EC votes.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Not in Philly apparently



Or are they claiming we’ll see the proof of election fraud that “many people” claim “soon”, “in two weeks”? “It’s coming”.

Ouch.

Setting the record straight on Trump campaign’s Pennsylvania litigation

 

[lostsheep]

Can't we just do away with this whole EC and election bs stuff and have a dictator-style government? Asking for a friend (I'll call him "donnie").

 

[NorthDallas40]

Ironically, we should’ve been more like the board since Europe utilizes mail ballots very sparingly, and in relatively very countries. The majority of first world countries do not use them in the manner but the US does Because it is inherently less secure.

I never said we shouldn’t be dumbasses in how we run an election. I just said our government shouldn’t be organized as Europe countries are

 

[Weezer]

Can't we just do away with this whole EC and election bs stuff and have a dictator-style government? Asking for a friend (I'll call him "donnie").

It's not Donnie or the Pubs who have been advocating to get rid of the EC.

 

[OHvol40]

No matter how they split it, each individual state retains the electorate count apportioned by the Constitution, so they're not gaining or losing influence.

I understand that.

 

[volfanhill]

It's not Donnie or the Pubs who have been advocating to get rid of the EC.

You might want to walk that back some. Trump did say the EC was a disaster for our democracy.

 

[OHvol40]

I'm sure it could be unpopular.

That is a separate question than what I am asking you. Why does that matter? There are plenty of things that are popular that are wrong, and plenty of unpopular things that are right.

Maybe so, but if it becomes unpopular enough it will get changed eventually. At least the format will.

 

[lostsheep]

It's not Donnie or the Pubs who have been advocating to get rid of the EC.

Ha. My friend donnie will advocate for anything that allows him to maintain a grip on power.

 

[NCFisher]

I never said we shouldn’t be dumbasses in how we run an election. I just said our government shouldn’t be organized as Europe countries are

Which I agreed with and just added a corollary statement.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Still have to allot the Senator EC votes.

I thought about... let the state legislatures decide those.

 

[clarksvol00]

So I said distraction or smoke screen. I never said that was an intentional play.

So you don’t think Rudy is a distraction?

You can't throw out the term "smokescreen" on a UT message board and not expect a Gruden response at some point.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Which I agreed with and just added a corollary statement.

And I agreed with your agreement, recognized your corollary, and expanded on how it applied back to my original post.

We should probably nip this in the bud now

 

[Weezer]

You might want to walk that back some. Trump did say the EC was a disaster for our democracy.

Recently? I know he said it years ago, but I've not heard it said recently. Most of the cry for popular vote came from the left after the 2016 election.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I thought about... let the state legislatures decide those.

Or allocate by state wide popular vote. But honesty I think just proportional allotment based on state wide count probably works as well.

 

[NCFisher]

And I agreed with your agreement, recognized your corollary, and expanded on how it applied back to my original post.

We should probably nip this in the bud now

I agree with bud nipping and… Damn, this is just endless isn’t it?

 

[NorthDallas40]

You can't throw out the term "smokescreen" on a UT message board and not expect a Gruden response at some point.

Noted.

 

[govols09]

Final prediction is Biden wins with approximately 321 electoral votes and wins popular vote by 4.2 percent

I spend 5 minutes on this prediction and beat Nate Silver

 

[MarcoVol]

Ouch.

Setting the record straight on Trump campaign’s Pennsylvania litigation

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Another Trump Lawyer Admits in Court: We're Not Alleging Fraud | Law & Crime

 

[Orange_Crush]

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Another Trump Lawyer Admits in Court: We're Not Alleging Fraud | Law & Crime

Did you read the link?

References to the improperly counted ballots are repeated throughout the filing, with paragraph 150 specifically stating that all factual allegations in the preceding paragraphs are incorporated within the Equal Protection claim.


“We are still arguing that 682,479 ballots were counted illegally, in secret,” said Tim Murtaugh, Trump 2020 communications director. “Our poll watchers were denied meaningful access to watch the vote counting and we still incorporate that claim in our complaint. Unfortunately, fake news activists rushed to print their clickbait headlines, apparently without even reading the lawsuit. That’s lazy journalism at best, but more likely intentionally misleading.”

...

Rudy Giuliani, personal attorney to President Trump and coordinator of the campaign’s legal strategy, said, “It’s routine for attorneys to file amended complaints to tighten the claims. We simplified the suit so it is more focused and narrowed. This is part of the process. Clearly the reporters at Washington Post have a reading deficit.”

 

[headhunter15]

 

[Rifleman]

Spoken like someone who understands many "blue states" are only blue because of the population in a handful of counties. Take Nevada as an example. It's blue because of two counties. The rest of the state is majority red. But Las Vegas and Reno have enough people to swing it blue.

Clark and Washoe have 87.5% percent of the people in Nevada. Lots of very hot sand and cacti in the other counties, but vote turnout among those demos remains at 0% generally.

 

[C-south]

Recount, Day 4: Counties resume work, Raffensperger debunks Trump
No irregularities or significant tabulation errors emerged during the first three days of the recount, officials said. Two major metro counties — Fulton and DeKalb — completed their efforts on Sunday.

Dang. It’s odd they were able to recount faster than they did the initial count.

 

[Rifleman]

Were these claims ever proven? Was there a nullification, or re-vote?

 

[luthervol]

Dang. It’s odd they were able to recount faster than they did the initial count.

Not really at all.
All the votes were already in one place for the recount. Not being mailed in from various locations.