2020 Presidential Race

[evillawyer]

Rep. Will Hurd (R-TX) has announced that he won't run for reelection in 2020. I'm pretty sure that leaves Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) as the only black or hispanic Republican party member of Congress. That party just keeps on getting older and whiter.

Yes, there are KKK rallies with greater diversity than the elected GOP congressmen.

 

[1972 Grad]

Yes, there are KKK rallies with greater diversity than the elected GOP congressmen.

But with far fewer participants.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Yes, there are KKK rallies with greater diversity than the elected GOP congressmen.

You should know since that's where you like to go after working hours.

 

[1972 Grad]

You should know since that's where you like to go after working hours.

She is just lining up tricks.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

She is just lining up tricks.

Probably or trying to clean up the trash that's always left behind from her favorite hooded rallies.

 

[Burger]

How the hell does that have a damn thing to do with symbolism? The Republican Party has a narrow range of appeal. That is a tangible and quantifiable reality in the voting booth.

This post is dead on. The GOP does a horrific job of selling itself to minorities and young people. They need to embrace Libertarianism before they die off. The clinging on to Social Conservatism will end up killing them within the next two decades. They can secure a great future if they hit the libertarian market.

Libertarians are more diverse than we think

 

[BowlBrother85]

You have no idea how racist you sound do you?

LOL! Projection.

 

[hog88]

LOL! Projection.

Dude, you are just assuming that 90% of the black voters will vote dem regardless of who the nominee is. That is racist.

 

[Burger]

Dude, you are just assuming that 90% of the black voters will vote dem regardless of who the nominee is. That is racist.

That is sadly true. The Dems cornered that market, and Trump is the only Republican in my life time that has actually tried to get the black vote.

 

[hog88]

That is sadly true. The Dems cornered that market, and Trump is the only Republican in my life time that has actually tried to get the black vote.

I know that’s historically correct but how is that any less racist than other stereotypes? He’s basically saying that no matter what the Dems do (or don’t do) they own the black voter.

 

[Burger]

I know that’s historically correct but how is that any less racist than other stereotypes? He’s basically saying that no matter what the Dems do (or don’t do) they own the black voter.

This is also true. I actually don't care about Wacism when it's true.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I know that’s historically correct but how is that any less racist than other stereotypes? He’s basically saying that no matter what the Dems do (or don’t do) they own the black voter.

It becomes more than just an oversimplified stereotype when heavily supported with facts... Trump didn't completely ignore the black vote in 2016 and he wasn't running against a black candidate either as McCain and Romney did... and he still only received 8% of the black vote. I doubt he even does as well this time around, his history with promoting "birther-ism" still resonates.

 

[BreatheUT]

There is no substance to this. I frequently will acknowledge that I'm wrong or misguided when confronted with actual evidence of such. I welcome a good argument, but you aren't making one... please show me how Trump is going to garner more than 10% of the black vote next year? He only received 8% in 2016 and that was against Hillary Clinton, who is not as popular among blacks as Biden.

The truth is I don't know because there is no way for me to personally create a poll of likely black voters but what is also true is you don't know either. What you are going off is history that the garbage democratic party has used identity politics well enough to sucker a culture into voting for them. It is never a good thing when 90% of any group agrees on the same thing. It is group think. Blacks, like other Americans, are just Americans. Blacks have benefited from capitalism. I might be nieve but I've seen more black, young and old, saying hold up a second, we don't owe the democratic party anything.

I can tell you the 4th of July conversation was about concerns about the democratic party candidates. That the group as a whole sucks and the concerns that turnout in the black communities could be low.

Democratic policies have been harmful to the black community and those policies are bigger than the black community. The people that espouse most of these policies don't care about blacks. They care about money and power. It's an ideology that extends belong blacks but uses those in its path as pawns. It is really a party for the white elites and blacks who sell victimization as a way to have optimism for free dollars.

Are there Democrats with good intentions? Sure there are. Are their Republicans with bad intentions? Sure there are. Does racism still exist? Sure it does. We see it on this board but it doesn't mean everything people say is racist or a good policy coming from someone you don't agree with on something is still not a good policy.

I have hope for the black community because blacks have always been great throughout history and helped build this great country. What I don't like are cultures, causes, certain demographics sucking on teet of civil rights to develop their movement - homosexuals, illegals, women. That's fine if they want movements but to latch those movement to MLK's movement is insulting for a person that understands the difference. That was a period where "American" citizens could not vote. It is nothing like that today regardless of what they like to tell us.

So I am not nieve enough to believe there will be a large turn of events because as they say in business it takes a long time to change the culture of it. As other blacks that have abandoned the Democratic party have said if the black vote gets to 15% or 20% for Republicans the Democratic party loses. That is a scary proposition for the party and they are throwing all of their evil resources to stop it from happening. That is why illegal immigrants are so important to the party now. At the very least the black community needs to put pressure on the Democrats to promote healthy policies where communities that have large populations can thrive. How do you do that? You start voting them out and replacing them with Trump's of the world. Why? Because there's nothing to lose.

Liberalism is utopia created by the white elites.

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[tim]

It becomes more than just an oversimplified stereotype when heavily supported with facts... Trump didn't completely ignore the black vote in 2016 and he wasn't running against a black candidate either as McCain and Romney did... and he still only received 8% of the black vote. I doubt he even does as well this time around, his history with promoting "birther-ism" still resonates.

Watch what happens in Baltimore. I think he will accidentally accomplish his goal of bringing some conservative views to some deeply liberal cities that have been force fed the lies for 5 decades. This Baltimore thing has legs and I hope they get the help they deserve and the money doesn’t line the pockets of democrat cronies

 

[BowlBrother85]

Watch what happens in Baltimore. I think he will accidentally accomplish his goal of bringing some conservative views to some deeply liberal cities that have been force fed the lies for 5 decades. This Baltimore thing has legs and I hope they get the help they deserve and the money doesn’t line the pockets of democrat cronies

That was not his goal when he was attacking the living conditions of Baltimore. You are giving him credit where it is not deserved. He was merely using the plight of Baltimore as a means of criticizing and belittling Rep. Elijah Cummings, because Rep. Cummings has been such an outspoken critic of the unsanitary conditions of the border detention centers. With Trump, so much of his rhetoric centers around petty vindictiveness. It's hard to believe, given the circumstances, that Trump actually cares if anything ever changes in Baltimore or not. Neither that city or that state will be supporting him in 2020 and everything centers around that.

 

[tim]

That was not his goal when he was attacking the living conditions of Baltimore. You are giving him credit where it is not deserved. He was merely using the plight of Baltimore as a means of criticizing and belittling Rep. Elijah Cummings, because Rep. Cummings has been such an outspoken critic of the unsanitary conditions of the border detention centers. With Trump, so much of his rhetoric centers around petty vindictiveness. It's hard to believe, given the circumstances, that Trump actually cares if anything ever changes in Baltimore or not. Neither that city or that state will be supporting him in 2020 and everything centers around that.

Read it again...... the word “accidentally” is included in my post. Listen man, maybe there is an argument to be made for “acting” presidential, but you got to admit they (democrats) can basically say anything (and they have) without recourse. Trump has a history of cutting deep.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You have no idea how racist you sound do you?

He’s a Democrat so he cannot be racist.
You’re not keeping up with the talking points

 

[JCP201]

My thoughts as well. If Biden can survive a Biden/ Gabbard ticket would be strong. Especially if Obama holds his nose and endorses this. Which I'm sure he would

I've been reading up on her... She's out there.. I thought she was going to be a VP choice for him, but I don't see it now.

Tulsi Gabbard Thinks We’re Doomed

 

[BowlBrother85]

He’s a Democrat so he cannot be racist.
You’re not keeping up with the talking points

We can be racists... but you're going to have to come up with more sound logic than hog88 did. Trump only received 8% of the black vote in 2016 and that was against a weak candidate. Trump is the same guy who pushed "birther-ism" very aggressively in 2011... There is nothing racist about pointing out how unlikely it is that he gets to 10% of the black vote. Republicans know they aren't getting the black vote, their strategy is always to try and suppress it as much as possible. They need a low black voter turnout to win in states such as Michigan and Pennsylvania. That isn't racist, it's reality.

 

[BreatheUT]

We can be racists... but you're going to have to come up with more sound logic than hog88 did. Trump only received 8% of the black vote in 2016 and that was against a weak candidate. Trump is the same guy who pushed "birther-ism" very aggressively in 2011... There is nothing racist about pointing out how unlikely it is that he gets to 10% of the black vote. Republicans know they aren't getting the black vote, their strategy is always to try and suppress it as much as possible. They need a low black voter turnout to win in states such as Michigan and Pennsylvania. That isn't racist, it's reality.

Stick to being an expert on the white vote.

 

[0nelilreb]

We can be racists... but you're going to have to come up with more sound logic than hog88 did. Trump only received 8% of the black vote in 2016 and that was against a weak candidate. Trump is the same guy who pushed "birther-ism" very aggressively in 2011... There is nothing racist about pointing out how unlikely it is that he gets to 10% of the black vote. Republicans know they aren't getting the black vote, their strategy is always to try and suppress it as much as possible. They need a low black voter turnout to win in states such as Michigan and Pennsylvania. That isn't racist, it's reality.

Reality is going into Michigan , West Virginia and Ohio and explaining how you are going to kill off fossil fuel jobs and expect those people to vote for you . That’s the hard reality .

 

[BowlBrother85]

Reality is going into Michigan , West Virginia and Ohio and explaining how you are going to kill off fossil fuel jobs and expect those people to vote for you . That’s the hard reality .

No democrat is going into West Virginia anyway.... Hillary Clinton only lost Michigan by 12,000 votes with a historically a low voter turnout in that state. Ohio? That is more difficult to flip but Biden was leading in the latest head to head poll vs Trump by 8 points.

 

[0nelilreb]

No democrat is going into West Virginia anyway.... Hillary Clinton only lost Michigan by 12,000 votes with a historically a low voter turnout in that state. Ohio? That is more difficult to flip but Biden was leading in the latest head to head poll vs Trump by 8 points.

Before he told the country he was for killing off fossil fuels the other night . Joe got cornered and had to fess up to liberal voters now he has some explaining to do . You can’t be “ average Joe “ when you tell the real average joes I’m going to kill off your jobs if elected . You also need to stop going by what Hills did in this state or that one . You can’t rely on those metrics with Trump and the ones running for POTUS now .. all of them are a different breed than the ones in the past .

 

[BowlBrother85]

Before he told the country he was for killing off fossil fuels the other night . Joe got cornered and had to fess up to liberal voters now he has some explaining to do . You can’t be “ average Joe “ when you tell the real average joes I’m going to kill off your jobs if elected . You also need to stop going by what Hills did in this state or that one . You can’t rely on those metrics with Trump and the ones running for POTUS now .. all of them are a different breed than the ones in the past .

Biden is a union man. He will do just fine with working class voters. And how Trump did in 2016 is relevant... the point is that the Democratic nominee just needs to win every state Clinton won and find about 100,000 votes across three states she lost. There is no miracle needed here.

 

[BreatheUT]

Before he told the country he was for killing off fossil fuels the other night . Joe got cornered and had to fess up to liberal voters now he has some explaining to do . You can’t be “ average Joe “ when you tell the real average joes I’m going to kill off your jobs if elected . You also need to stop going by what Hills did in this state or that one . You can’t rely on those metrics with Trump and the ones running for POTUS now .. all of them are a different breed than the ones in the past .

Like most liberals Bowl bet on people continuing to support destructive policies. It's the typical arrogance from people who believe in the ruling class and big government. They keep the same identity talking points to pit people against each other.