Assuming with me is never good. I said a strong post, not once did I say we needed another Key. Defensively we’re going to need a banger and prowess on the glass. Explosiveness do not always equate to playmaker. And the end of the day those will be needs come next season, it doesn’t mean I’m underestimating anyones ability. Nice try though.
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It’s not always about being worried. The problem is that as soon as someone has an opinion about something and it don’t agree with the masses then it start arguments. Open dialogue is a good thing. I for one have no worries for this season or next season. Because I state some needs doesn’t mean I don’t think the staff will get it done. Until shown otherwise I love this staff.
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U want them to answer wat ppl see, how about wat we don't see. Kellie goes after a player with lady vols name, while Kim goes with Kim's name & extra gift. Untill Kellie take us to fina 4 or championship to show this kids it will be little hard, but thank God older kids who are in portal sees that Kellie is good.
I don’t get it. I see a number of posts in this thread about negative recruiting. Personally, I consider that it is simply a part of programs comparing themselves to other programs that a recruit is interested in. If a program’s coach has a flaw that needs correction, correct it. You should expect that others will point it out.
What are some specific examples of negative recruiting that are being used against the Lady Vols? Are they based in fact or falsehood.
U want them to answer wat ppl see, how about wat we don't see. Kellie goes after a player with lady vols name, while Kim goes with Kim's name & extra gift. Untill Kellie take us to fina 4 or championship to show this kids it will be little hard, but thank God older kids who are in portal sees that Kellie is good.
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If that is being used, it's ridiculous.
Can someone name me a top 20 program, in wcbb, that historically, never had a lesbian player on it ?
And UT's women's basketball program is led by a female coach with children who's married to a male !
If recruits can't see through that obvious absurdity, they're too stupid to play here.
They couldn't beat TN so he taking a shot wherever he can get it. Because lord knows the shot they needed at the end of the game they missed No way is that "negative recruiting."
It could be considered as such if it was done by a rival coach or someone associated with a rival school. But some random internet nut is not a part of the recruiting process. This appears to be a random nut who hates all things Tennessee. I can promise you, there is at least one Clemson fan who posts similar things about Dawn's program in the monstrous internet world.
Do you really think opposing recruiiters would touch that allegation with a ten foot pole? SCar wouldn't/couldn't. UConn wouldn't couldn't. Kim wouldn't/couldn't. Maybe if you are fighting for a recruit with BYU or Liberty it could have some relevance.
You don't thing there are things circulated about Dawn's or Tara Venderveer's marital status? They are, but opposing teams don't seem do use (or be able to use) that to their advantage when fighting SCar or Stanford for recruits.
It just doesn't matter and has extremely little, if anything, to do with recruiting.
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Rule 1: Never trust the input of a SC fan on a UT message board (--especially one that dignifies Connecticut's approach to recruiting historically).
Negative recruiting can be occurring aside from what is collected and posted here. (What a negligent, irresponsible oversight!)
Sure, it is Harper's challenge to overcome and lure H.S. prospects here again. It comes down to her ability to mitigate those absurdities. But your discounting the unknown vanquishes your credibility.
Negative recruiting can be occurring aside from what is collected and posted here. (What a negligent, irresponsible oversight!)
Sure, it is Harper's challenge to overcome and lure H.S. prospects here again. It comes down to her ability to mitigate those absurdities. But your discounting the unknown vanquishes your credibility.
In what way have I "dignified" UConn's approach do recruiting?
you say, Negative recruiting can be occurring? I cannot argue that it cannot be occurring. Alien's could be running Russia's government. You can't prove it and I can't disprove it but I can point out logical inconsistencies.
I asked only for examples of negative recruiting that are purportedly being used against the Vols. So far one theory has be presented, which is so weak it is laughable. I can't disprove it but any reasoanable person would have to conclude "So what?"
Got any examples of negative recruiting?
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Tennessee have football baseball mens basketball team's where fan' s expect top team's. Less money for Nil deals for lady vols basketball. Lots of fans still waiting on softball champship. Lady vols have some good soccer and other teams. Some colleges have one or two sports who will hog nil money.I have trust in Kellie and the staff, too. You do not build a program back over night. Relationships have to be established when players are young. But you know that.
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That list can't possibly be correct. There are teams on it with coaches who haven't been at their school any longer than Kellie (so they haven't had long enough to build relationships). There are teams on that list who have had lesbian players in the past (so they must be getting negatively recruited against). There are teams on that list who have coaches rumored to be lesbians (so they must be getting negatively recruited against). And there are teams on that list who simply have sucked at women's basketball forever (and you can't recruit if you haven't been in the final four recently). It's well known that you can't overcome any of these obstacles in recruiting, therefore I declare this list to be bogus and we should just ignore it. 
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Sarcasm at it's most effective.That list can't possibly be correct. There are teams on it with coaches who haven't been at their school any longer than Kellie (so they haven't had long enough to build relationships). There are teams on that list who have had lesbian players in the past (so they must be getting negatively recruited against). There are teams on that list who have coaches rumored to be lesbians (so they must be getting negatively recruited against). And there are teams on that list who simply have sucked at women's basketball forever (and you can't recruit if you haven't been in the final four recently). It's well known that you can't overcome any of these obstacles in recruiting, therefore I declare this list to be bogus and we should just ignore it.
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It will be all anyone talks about, especially on the recruiting trail. And opposing coaches can insert any calumny they like as to what the cause is because how could we counter it when they can simply point at the results?
We have a bigger recruiting budget than just about any team in the country. We have more support and tradition than all but maybe one or two programs. We are on the upswing. We reorganized our entire staff with the express purpose of getting better results, and barring a change of heart, we still came up empty. This doesn't happen unless something is very wrong with our approach, and our program isn't being forthcoming with the reason, you can bet other coaches will be more than willing to fill in the gaps there.
This won't quiet down until we show some dominance on the court, and even then it will still be a headwind when recruiting.
I just don't get how we can be so attractive to players in the portal, and not to high school kids. There is a disconnect there.
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