2023 Transfer Portal - General NCAA Thread

[BisonVol]

Nothing wrong with replacing him in 2024. But oh look. Slip a cheap shot in at Barnes while you’re busy roasting a big contributor to a 25 win, Sweet 16 team that was ranked EVERY week of the 2022-23 season. And an SECT champion the year before.

I’ve defended Barnes from a number of drive by’s on here. The post you quoted is not a cheap shot at Barnes. The post is quite frankly about you and your white knight routine for Uros. You must have very little faith in Barnes if you think he will struggle to replace Uros.

 

[Vols till I fall]

It goes without saying, that Barnes needs to at least get two transfers in here regardless how the roster looks

You need a reliable PG and a dominate big

I'd specifically target the following PG's:

1. Max Abrams (ORU)
2. Keyon Menifield (Washington)
3. Tylor Perry (UCT)
4. Caleb Grill (Iowa state, dismissed, mental)
5. Demetri Roberts (FDU, not in portal)

Bigs:
1. Chris Ledlum (Harvard)
2. Jamarion Sharp (WKU)
3. Fardaws Aimaq (Texas Tech, injured)
4. (Tell Nkahmoua to come back at this point)
5. (Uros back if you can't find a hidden gem)


Random position dream list:
1. Hunter Dickenson
2. LX Cryer
3. TJ Bamba

Sleeper pick: Jordan Wright from Vanderbilt

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

I would be very concerned about the state of this program If we were unable to move on from Uros this off-season

Like 10 out of 10 concerned

Increase your dosage.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Man...Stackhouse is cleaning house or something?

5 Vandy players in the portal Myles Stute, Jordan Wright, Trey Thomas, Noah Shelby, & Malik Dia. Shelby & Dia both were freshmen and Shelby was a top 125 national player and a top 25 PG in last year's class (wonder if we'd be interested there?)

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I haven't seen Tennessee listed on any way too early too 25 for next season

They are really doubting us next season, but I think we are definitely a top 25 team as long as we can return or get someone like Vescovi, along with a scoring pg and dominant big.

I'd say we would have a top 10 team

I’ve seen 4 so far and all 4 have had us ranked…

 

[knoxvol52]

Prediction ranking 23 by ,ESPN way too early for next year

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I believe it’s you who doesn’t know what objective means…

Objective: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

The above applies to most of us on here seeing as we aren’t letting personal feelings or obscure statistics influence our opinion of him as a player. We’ve watched him for four years now. The eye test supports that it is time for him to move on. He won’t be hard to replace if Barnes is competent which he certainly is.

That doesn’t mean Uros sucks. It just means that he was a middle of the road player who had a few strengths but at the end of the day was very limited. Plenty of those in the portal.

I have zero personal feelings about Uros. You are making that up because you can’t counter the FACTS (not obscure stats) that I have listed. Highest FG% among the regulars is one (over 60%).

What eye test are you referencing? I have pointed out that he does multiple things very well that don’t show up in the box score. Positioning. Passing. Boxing out.

So what if he had some rough fouls called? Half of those could have been triggered by flops. His role is to be physical. It has the benefit of forcing refs hands. If they are going to call fouls for rough play then TN better get the same treatment when they’re on offense. If refs swallow their whistles then Aidoo is going to be tossed around in the paint.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Here’s a fact, Uros’ 34% from the free throw line was an embarrassing number that hurt this team.

 

[cncchris33]

Go check the in-game threads for the “Uros sucks” mentions. It’s been going on over his entire career.

There’s even a board rule to RESPECT THE PLAYERS.

Your white knight routine is tired and loses effect when you claim that people are constantly saying Uros sucks and needs to move on, when in reality, the people you are primarily arguing with aren't "hammering" the version of events you’re purporting.

Context matters. Essentially, you're currently arguing with 5-6 people in this thread who never said any of the things you take exception with because other people have said them in other threads over four year's time. Completely nonsensical.

And I've got news for you, players are not immune from criticism if it's fair. Board rules aren't in place to deny that ability.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Here’s a fact, Uros’ 34% from the free throw line was an embarrassing number that hurt this team.

Probably a huge reason why he plays limited minutes in his role. I pointed out that FACT earlier. Not a single player on the roster did everything at a high level. Uros missed free throws. Good thing he wasn’t taking a lot of them. Only about one and a half per game. Tobe was horrible there as well.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Probably a huge reason why he plays limited minutes in his role. I pointed out that FACT earlier. Not a single player on the roster did everything at a high level. Uros missed free throws. Good thing he wasn’t taking a lot of them. Only about one and a half per game. Tobe was horrible there as well.

Weird when someone points out a fact about Uros you feel the need to bring up another player to take away from the negative fact about Uros

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Context matters. Essentially, you're currently arguing with 5-6 people in this thread who never said any of the things you take exception with because other people have said them in other threads over four year's time. Completely nonsensical.

And I've got news for you, players are not immune from criticism if it's fair. Board rules aren't in place to deny that ability.

Did you notice that my comment about board rules was right after pointing out the “he sucks” reference and NOT after fair criticism? Talk about nonsensical.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Weird when someone points out a fact about Uros you feel the need to bring up another player to take away from the negative fact about Uros

Why is that weird for you? It’s been argued many times that Awaka should be getting more of UP’s couple of minutes. He is also a weak free throw shooter.

BTW, nice snarky “fact” reference by you in the earlier post.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

As far as Uros goes, he’s definitely not my least favorite player.

Dude had size and could score around the paint whenever he wanted. He was also a decent passer.

If you want to complain about his “antics”, that’s fair. However, he had some memorable moments as a Vol that we can’t erase.

I think he could be easily replaced with someone else from the portal that’s more talented. I’m sure Barnes feels the same way.

 

[Vols till I fall]

As far as Uros goes, he’s definitely not my least favorite player.

Dude had size and could score around the paint whenever he wanted. He was also a decent passer.

If you want to complain about his “antics”, that’s fair. However, he had some memorable moments as a Vol that we can’t erase.

I think he could be easily replaced with someone else from the portal that’s more talented. I’m sure Barnes feels the same way.

Score whenever he wanted?

 

[cncchris33]

Did you notice that my comment about board rules was right after pointing out the “he sucks” reference and NOT after fair criticism? Talk about nonsensical.

But everyone you're currently arguing with in this thread falls squarely in the fair criticism camp. So you're either arguing just to argue...totally in your bag of tricks...or you're assigning blame for the "he sucks" comments of others across the last four years to those in this discussion making fair criticisms. Either way, you keep bringing it up in this discussion as if it held any relevance to the people you're arguing with, NOW.

 

[Vols410]

Score whenever he wanted?

There were definitely times it felt like that. Was often a liability on defense with the fouling, but there were stretches in some games against better opponents that going to him seemed like the most consistent/reliable way to get points.

 

[cwbytruckers]

Which is why I like to see him starting. The refs are so inconsistent, I’d rather Uros get 2 quick fouls than the others while the refs are being figured out.

Wins the opening tips.
7’1”
Good passer. Maybe great for a 7 footer.
Great screener. Creates space for perimeter shooters.
Big target for inbounds passes and for players that have picked up their dribble.
Good hands.
Takes up space in the paint when on defense.
Can now score around the basket.
Good rebounder and fundamentally sound at boxing out.
Doesn’t have many mental lapses on defense.
Been in the system for 4 years.
Outstanding team first player.

The portal is loaded with lesser contributors. But let’s get one of them instead because some are tired of him and aren’t able to appreciate him for the under the radar contributions he makes.

Because of Uros antics it hurts the entire team. Fouls are looked at under a microscope. We dont need that attention. Uros needs to go. Playground bully days are over.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I have zero personal feelings about Uros. You are making that up because you can’t counter the FACTS (not obscure stats) that I have listed. Highest FG% among the regulars is one (over 60%).

What eye test are you referencing? I have pointed out that he does multiple things very well that don’t show up in the box score. Positioning. Passing. Boxing out.

So what if he had some rough fouls called? Half of those could have been triggered by flops. His role is to be physical. It has the benefit of forcing refs hands. If they are going to call fouls for rough play then TN better get the same treatment when they’re on offense. If refs swallow their whistles then Aidoo is going to be tossed around in the paint.

101 games played, 11.3 mpg average and he finishes with these career totals: 376 points, 287 rebounds, 49 assists, 33 steals, 20 blocks, 70 turnovers, 159 fouls (that's right, 57 more fouls than assists/steals/blocks combined).

13 games where Uros scored more than 10 points in his 101 games here, we lost 3 of them.
1 game in his 101 games where he grabbed double digit rebounds (at 7'1" and 260lbs+)
0 games with more than 1 block in his entire career here (again at 7'1" and 260lbs+)
13 games where he took shots and finished the night shooting 0% from FG, his % is greatly helped by his 19 games with 100% from the field, but in those 19 games he only shot more than 2 shots in 4 of them.
15 games in his career where he shot above 50% from the free throw line (that's crazy)
17 games where he attempted a FT and finished the night shooting 0% from the line, that's more often than him scoring 8 or more points in a game and that's more often than him grabbing more than 5 rebounds in a game

He's a great teammate, can defend big bodies well and isn't afraid to be physical. But there's nothing he's shown in 101 games here that can't be replicated by the returning talent OR found in the portal. Uros is honestly the most replaceable senior on the team. If we had more space then I wouldn't mind seeing him back because I think he's a great guy to have in the locker room. He cares about his teammates, loves Tennessee, and has really improved his scoring around the basket every year he's been here. From 42.1% 2PT shooting to 63.6% this season. But his FT% lack of shot blocking and average rebounding just are hard to overcome.

 

[Yeiser10]

Something tells me both Santi and JJJ come back in the end. We probably won’t get the big name transfer like a (Love) but we will end with a decent player or two in the portal as well. JMO

 

[knoxvol52]

According to sports Source on Sunday Vescovi can't get NIL money because is a foreign born player if he does money has to go to charity I am computer illiterate on how to paste it's on you tube Sunday April 2 first segment

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

101 games played, 11.3 mpg average and he finishes with these career totals: 376 points, 287 rebounds, 49 assists, 33 steals, 20 blocks, 70 turnovers, 159 fouls (that's right, 57 more fouls than assists/steals/blocks combined).

13 games where Uros scored more than 10 points in his 101 games here, we lost 3 of them.
1 game in his 101 games where he grabbed double digit rebounds (at 7'1" and 260lbs+)
0 games with more than 1 block in his entire career here (again at 7'1" and 260lbs+)
13 games where he took shots and finished the night shooting 0% from FG, his % is greatly helped by his 19 games with 100% from the field, but in those 19 games he only shot more than 2 shots in 4 of them.
15 games in his career where he shot above 50% from the free throw line (that's crazy)
17 games where he attempted a FT and finished the night shooting 0% from the line, that's more often than him scoring 8 or more points in a game and that's more often than him grabbing more than 5 rebounds in a game

He's a great teammate, can defend big bodies well and isn't afraid to be physical. But there's nothing he's shown in 101 games here that can't be replicated by the returning talent OR found in the portal. Uros is honestly the most replaceable senior on the team. If we had more space then I wouldn't mind seeing him back because I think he's a great guy to have in the locker room. He cares about his teammates, loves Tennessee, and has really improved his scoring around the basket every year he's been here. From 42.1% 2PT shooting to 63.6% this season. But his FT% lack of shot blocking and average rebounding just are hard to overcome.

He’s been in the system for 4 years. He fills the role well. Plays defense. Knows how to be in position. Hood hands. I never claimed that he’s a stat stuffer. I’ve pointed out the despite the relentless criticism he actually does have some good stats. Especially FG% and although the narrative is that he can’t rebound, he actually does.

Really, only the most recent year is somewhat relevant if you want to dig into the stats. Per game numbers are mostly irrelevant as he’s a limited minutes to player.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Because of Uros antics it hurts the entire team. Fouls are looked at under a microscope. We dont need that attention. Uros needs to go. Playground bully days are over.

Whose microscope? If refs put fouls on Uros then that sets the tone for calling it tight in the paint when Aidoo hits the court. Aidoo gets abused in physical games.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

But everyone you're currently arguing with in this thread falls squarely in the fair criticism camp. So you're either arguing just to argue...totally in your bag of tricks...or you're assigning blame for the "he sucks" comments of others across the last four years to those in this discussion making fair criticisms. Either way, you keep bringing it up in this discussion as if it held any relevance to the people you're arguing with, NOW.

I’m addressing all of the criticisms. It’s fair to say that he can’t make free throws. But coaches can manage that weakness.

He plays rough and doesn’t let up until the refs define their tolerance. I don’t think that having a player that will bang in the paint is a liability that it’s being discussed.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

He’s been in the system for 4 years. He fills the role well. Plays defense. Knows how to be in position. Hood hands. I never claimed that he’s a stat stuffer. I’ve pointed out the despite the relentless criticism he actually does have some good stats. Especially FG% and although the narrative is that he can’t rebound, he actually does.

Really, only the most recent year is somewhat relevant if you want to dig into the stats. Per game numbers are mostly irrelevant as he’s a limited minutes to player.

Then what numbers do you use?

Uros was 6th on the team in total rebounds this year. Olivier and Aidoo both had over 170. Santi and Phillips both had 150, and then Awaka who played 107 less total minutes surpassed Uros by 13 as well.
Uros was the worst big we had in rebounding on the season, and you can slice that up as a per game or total and it's still the same.

And the limited minutes argument isn't really valid, Uros is a 4th year player and HE is as responsible for his limited minutes as anyone else.

1. Because his rebounding isn't better
2. Because he is terrible at the FT line
3. Because he fouls so damn often (he was 3rd on the team with 68 fouls, despite playing 200 minutes less than everyone else except Awaka)
4. Because he leads the bigs in turnover % despite playing less minutes

If you look at the "per 100 possessions" advanced stats Uros actually lead the team in fouls too.