2024 Presidential Race

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Ritzwatch said:
This is true, but while you see a jump in the Republican vote, you don't see a reversion to the pre-2020 level in 2024.

The D jump in 2020 didn't shock me until I saw the precipitous drop off for the Ds in 2024. That is the part that doesn't make sense.

With all the stats coming out about the two campaigns effectiveness in reaching "low participation voters" this year, the only way to have the total vote drop off is to have had a minimum 10% voter drop off from 2020.

It seems very unlikely we would have such a steady trend upward in voting throughout recent history, to then have a + 10% jump that is immediately followed by a +10% drop the very next cycle.

I've never before said that 2020 was fraudulent. Now, I am not so sure. I'm not a statistician, but I would say the odds of these numbers happening absent some intentional manipulation is very, very low.
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It should have shocked you.

It is mathematically impossible for 150 million out of 130 million to vote.

It is cognitively impossible for a man that has been in government for 40+ years and had numerous failed attempts to even get his own parties nomination to all of a sudden get that nomination and garner 81 million votes. 20 mill more than an 8 year black prez that very well can be argued more popular than clinton was.
 
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GVF said:
THis 17 state National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is disturbing and will cuse violence and civil unrest in the future. By design it garuntees DEM presidencies in all but the slimmest of chances. Being that the poplular vote is almost always won by dems. Trumps victory today in both tallies hasn't happened for republicans since 1988.

Scenario - Trumps electors remain what they are (he's cleared 270) BUT Kamala had won the populace, those 17 states, with a combined 209 electors, could pull their electors and award them to Harris. That would have put her in the WH. And this seems to be a relatively unknown compact created in 2006. I just read of it today via a link in this thread. It has yet to be tested in action.

If i read the compact correctly, that is how it could have gone down under the right circumstances. On the surface it seems a legal way to perpetuate the machine and as long as a lib can secure the populace, they can keep conservatives at bay. There's probably also a lot of legal discourse to wade through if this is ever enacted.
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I would anticipate the Supreme Court would rule it to be unconstitutional as it disenfranchises voters within those states by substituting the will of the voters within those states with the will of non-residents of those states.
 
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