2024 Presidential Race

[adam.vol]

Agreed, her political career at this level is dead. She can't add to a ticket. Not sure what her next move would be.

Megan Berry found someone to throw money at her criminal a**. Kamala just needs to get back into the cork sucking business until she finds the right pockets again.

 

[volbeast33]

 

[GroverCleveland]

I agree with you there. Michelle would’ve wiped the floor with Trump.

Could have been worse. The bloom is off the rose. The Obamas are as out of touch with everyday Americans as Kamala was. It's the policy people are sick of and they represent the same thing.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I've been on team consumption tax for awhile. I wouldnt mind paying a little more on that than them garnishing my wages every pay cycle.

Practically speaking, its not going to happen since it will be a tax increase for 90-95% of Americans (To get to same amount of revenue today)....

 

[OL SMOKEY]

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This is very telling!!!!

 

[508mikey]

Practically speaking, he will have to do tax changes through Reconciliation process to get around filibuster rules. Same way he got TCJA through in 2017.

EO wouldnt work

Constitution aint happening.

Other path would be letting Ds in on drafting the bill and get consensus that way. This would probably involve a compromise to keep IRA, stock buyback tax, corporate minimum tax. Are the Ds willing to compromise to keep those 3 around? Probably not.

He can eliminate the tax on SS though

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

He can eliminate the tax on SS though

Yes, I think you can get both parties on board with that...

At a minimum, you can decrease the tax on it from 85%.

 

[McDad]

 

[volbeast33]

 

[MontyPython]

Those ”historians“ must have went to the same school that produced the “scientists” that gave us face diapers and 6’ social distancing.

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me, Hogg.

Next time you have surgery (probably a quadruple bypass), be sure to demand that your surgeon, anesthesiologist and crew of nurses all take off their "face diapers" while operating on you.

DEMAND it, Hogg. You. Know. Best.

Or, as you might say, "Y'all smarty-pants know-nothins better git your face diapers in that there trash can else I'm a gunna went and git my semi and drove all on y'alls yards and learn y'all a lesson!"

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Here we go again..**** em

There's freedom of speech and then there's flat out lying to cause panic, depression, fear, and assassination attempts. The MSM and Legacy news are no different from late night/ daytime talk shows and SNL. They are not to be taken seriously. Professional journalism is pretty much dead.




We don't hate the media enough

 

[swampfoxfan]

I don't know. The one positive about Trump is that he aggressively pursues his promises. Even his critics can't deny him. Granted, he typically can't achieve 60% or so of what he wants but that was because others held him up. The Republican party in office now is more MAGA than ever. Not just the Republicans, but MAGA itself now controls pretty much every part of the Federal Government (or will if House continues to stay to trend). I can see some drastic change coming.

Granted, people are going to find out that State Governments have far more power than people think and states like California will be pretty successful in blocking 90% of the MAGA stuff.

Trump keeping promises?? Trump is a pure liar.
Promised nor to play golf in office, build a wall and Mexico pay for it, remember? Promised to pay workers building his hotels then stiffed them by filing bankruptcy . Trump will always be a shameless liar.

 

[McDad]

 

[adam.vol]

Only a sociopath would call allowing people to choose how to spend their own money “fascism”. One of these days, maybe the “woke” will realize they’re the pawns protecting the old money by preventing new wealth.

The “progressives” want to preserve the wealth of the elites (status quo) so that they don’t have to witness their peers do better than them. Attack any new money (businesses) for fear of falling behind.

 

[StarRaider]

Agreed. "Debt paid" should mean paid in full.

Moot point since the dim overlords Oprah and Michelle said this was the last election if Orange Man won.... and OM won.

 

[volbound1700]

The sad truth about AOC compared to most liberals is that I really think AOC believes the stuff she is saying. She is that out there. Most of the rest of the left politicians are just liars that are using the process to enrich themselves.

 

[walkenvol]

In the 6 swing states (Arizona not yet included in either set since it is only 70% counted for 2024)

Trump (2020) 13,528,229
Biden (2020) 13,754,546
Total (2020) 27,282,775

Trump (2024) 14,172,977
Harris (2024) 13,561,141
Total (2024) 27,734,118

This narrative that all these votes magically appeared in swing states in 2020 and disappeared in 2024 is not supported by any data.

2024 is as of 8PM CST on 11/6 and will slightly increase as those 6 states count any straggling votes

Which states had the extra 15 million democratic votes that haven’t happened before or after 2020?

 

[volbound1700]

Only a sociopath would call allowing people to choose how to spend their own money “fascism”. One of these days, maybe the “woke” will realize they’re the pawns protecting the old money by preventing new wealth.

The “progressives” want to preserve the wealth of the elites (status quo) so that they don’t have to witness their peers do better than them. Attack any new money (businesses) for fear of falling behind.

I feel like the left wants us to slave away so that people like Taylor Swift, the Kardashians, George Clooney, or Billie Eilish can live the high life. They are the party of celebrities and the college professors (who have never had a real job).

 

[wtmvol]

The sad truth about AOC compared to most liberals is that I really think AOC believes the stuff she is saying. She is that out there. Most of the rest of the left politicians are just liars that are using the process to enrich themselves.

I don't think so. I think she's in the latter group. She's just a performance actor who probably doesn't even understand half the things she says. I'd put Bernie in the 1st camp.

 

[DynaLo]

Every Trump tax position that Harris parroted, like no tax on tips for example, should be presented by MAGA Republicans in a straightforward single item bill with no extra fluff.

Force the Dems to either support and pass her stated policy promises or out themselves as lying turds and make them publicly explain that to their voters by playing the video clips of her campaign promises.

 

[CobbVol]

Here we go again..**** em

What did that take - a little over 24 hours to start "well I heard this ..." reporting? One or both of these dip$&^s must be selling a book.

 

[InVOLuntary]

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Which states had the extra 15 million democratic votes that haven’t happened before or after 2020?

The 15 million number was before California counted over 10 million votes. Those charts floating around yesterday were disingenous since over 15M votes nationwide hadnt been counted yet.

Kamala/DJT will probably combine for 150M once everthing is counted. DJT will have 2-3M more than 20, Kamala will have 6-7M less and 3-5M stayed home (see NYS)

Kamala underperformed Biden by 900K in NYS.

 

[McDad]

The sad truth about AOC compared to most liberals is that I really think AOC believes the stuff she is saying. She is that out there. Most of the rest of the left politicians are just liars that are using the process to enrich themselves.

I don't share her worries about fascism and authoritarianizm. The way I understand it, Trump's plan is to use fascism and authoritarianism only to eliminate his enemies. What I am surprised she isn't worried about is his plan to become dictator for life.

 

[SuzyVol]

Yes, I think you can get both parties on board with that...

At a minimum, you can decrease the tax on it from 85%.

And index the taxability threshold.