2024 Presidential Race

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Mandatory service in the Land of the Free?


Oh, I agree 11% with this. There are some very entitled people in this country. Boomers in particular.


So your answer to a national debt crisis is free labor?


All of these military interventions across the globe since WWII and we are less free now than at any other point in our history.
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Learn to read Alice. I said nothing about the debt crisis being solved by "free labor".

Love your slam of Boomers. I worked my ass off to get where I am. I owe no one anything. Nada. Zilch. I haven't had a mortgage for 20 years. I served in the military, and you know what? It was a lot better than I thought it would have been. I would have stayed for 20+ had it not been for the RIF after Gulf war 1.

Get the **** off your sanctimonious high horse Chief.

Freedom isn't free.
 
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utvolpj said:
Term limits is again limiting freedom. I don't need you to tell me who I'm allowed to vote for.

We have programs that reward public service with loan forgiveness after a decade of service and payments but you howled. Why so inconsistent?
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Really? I howled? Try harder. If you give something i.e. public service, I have no problem with receiving some loan forgiveness in return. I would prefer reduction vice cancellation however. That's fine. But straight up cancellation? Nah.

And career politicians are the biggest threat to this country we have, but I would never really want to keep you from keeping the pigs at the trough. Where would we be without all the 30+ year lawmakers we have? Can't see what the country looks like after 30 years of AOC and MTG.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Well if you want to be pie in the sky about this, what we REALLY need are term limits imposed on ALL politicians at the federal level. Judges, congressmen... ALL of them. Maybe we wouldn't find ourselves in useless wars due to politicians that support the interests of big pharma and the military industrial complex, but rather ones that support the American people. But that ain't gonna happen either, and that same American public is too ****ing stupid to throw them out at the ballot box. To wit: 50+ years of Puddinhead brought to you by the idiots from Delaware.
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I've read enough of your posts to know that you support some the people and policies that are against the American people, as well.

SpaceCoastVol said:
And I wasn't talking about being forced into the military. ANY kind of national service would do.
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Mandatory servitude

SpaceCoastVol said:
I'd even let the mormons count their 2 year missions.
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Missions to help people overseas or here at home?

SpaceCoastVol said:
Maybe the youth of today won't look like they fell face first into my brother in law's tackle box and might have a little respect for themselves. Maybe they will understand the privilege they have to be born into the greatest country on the planet instead of trying to turn it into the next Venezuela..
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You don't build pride in country with mandatory labor.

SpaceCoastVol said:
Freedom isn't free. Think about that today at least.
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That goes against the very principles of this country and the founding documents.

Inalienable rights...

Our rights are not given to us by the military or the police or the govt, but are/can be limited by them.
 
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Wow. You are one entitled individual Ras.

You win.

At lease acknowledge on THIS day... this ONE ****ing DAY of the year that your freedom was paid for. Or maybe I am in another part of the Matrix and we are actually speaking German here.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Learn to read Alice. I said nothing about the debt crisis being solved by "free labor".
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I went back an re-read your comment at the end of your rant. So I apologize. But my point about free labor remains the same. It is anti-freedom.

SpaceCoastVol said:
Love your slam of Boomers. I worked my ass off to get where I am. I owe no one anything. Nada. Zilch. I haven't had a mortgage for 20 years. I served in the military, and you know what? It was a lot better than I thought it would have been. I would have stayed for 20+ had it not been for the RIF after Gulf war 1.
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Why do all Boomers have to do this grandstanding? You lived and worked in a far better economic situation back then than 18-21 year olds today are facing. No matter how hard most of these kids work today, they may not be able to get an affordable home with a middle class income. Wages are NOT keeping up with inflation and haven't been since the 1980s.

SpaceCoastVol said:
Get the **** off your sanctimonious high horse Chief.
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Sanctimonious? Coming from the person that just said:
I worked my ass off to get where I am. I owe no one anything. Nada. Zilch. I haven't had a mortgage for 20 years.
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Freedom isn't free.
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I'll play along with you on this because years ago, I believed this nonsense. So tell me, if freedom isn't free, then what is the cost and who pays for it?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I went back an re-read you comment at the end of your rant. So I apologize. But my point about ree labor remains the same. It is anti-freedom.


Why do all Boomers have to do this grandstanding? You lived and worked in a far better economic situation back then than 18-21 year olds today are facing. No matter how hard most of these kids work today, they may not be able to get an affordable home with a middle class income. Wages are NOT keeping up with inflation and haven't been since the 1980s.


Sanctimonious? Coming from the person that just said:



I'll play along with you on this because years ago, I believed this nonsense. So tell me, if freedom isn't free, then what is the cost and who pays for it?
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You should know there was a huge recession in the mid 80s right after I graduated from UT. I got laid off 4 different times form my chosen profession. Didn't buy a house for another 9 years and that was when I was in the military and was at 13% interest. So cry me a river for today's kids' problems. You probably can't count to 13 much less know what that does to mortgage payments. But I only bought what I could afford, and it weren't no mansion.

If you don't know who is paying the bills for your freedom, then your sense of entitlement is unreachable. Enjoy it. You make me want to throw up.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Wow. You are one entitled individual Ras.
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I'm just speaking facts. Freedoms don't come from the military or the govt. I was born during the end of Vietnam, and I can't think of a single military intervention that liberated the American people since then or protected us.

And when it comes to entitlement, you have me beat. Imagine the arrogance one must have to think that they are control or can grant an individuals freedoms/liberties?

SpaceCoastVol said:
You win.
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It's not about winning. It is about you acknowledging, as an American and a veteran this simple, basic, fundamental idea that our freedoms do not come from the govt. This is American Constitution 101. I'm sure when you were in school, Boomer, that they taught you the Constitution in civics. You didn't have to suffer some pink haired woke tranny teaching CRT or Ebonics back in the 1960s/1970s. You, of all people, should be aware of this.
SpaceCoastVol said:
At lease acknowledge on THIS day... this ONE ****ing DAY of the year that your freedom was paid for. Or maybe I am in another part of the Matrix and we are actually speaking German here.
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I think that Memorial Day in Post-WWII America should be a day to recognize the lives lost by servicemen in nonsensical, non-existential, profiteering expeditionary conflicts that had zero to do with American liberties or protecting American lives. Instead of it being a day of sadness, it should be a day of anger.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
You should know there was a huge recession in the mid 80s right after I graduated from UT. I got laid off 4 different times form my chosen profession. Didn't buy a house for another 9 years and that was when I was in the military and was at 13% interest. So cry me a river for today's kids' problems. You probably can't count to 13 much less know what that does to mortgage payments. But I only bought what I could afford, and it weren't no mansion.
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13% is coming soon. But even with that, 6-7% today... the cost of housing is still out of reach for many.

SpaceCoastVol said:
If you don't know who is paying the bills for your freedom, then your sense of entitlement is unreachable. Enjoy it.
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It was not anyone in the military that is paying it. That is for certain.

Inalienable rights

All the military or govt can do is limit freedoms.

SpaceCoastVol said:
You make me want to throw up.
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Oh stop it.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
13% is coming soon. But even with that, 6-7% today... the cost of housing is still out of reach for many.


It was not anyone in the military that is paying it. That is for certain.

Inalienable rights

All the military or govt can do is limit freedoms.


Oh stop it.
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It's the new normal then. Deal with it. Rent. Get a roommate. It's not my problem. The market will adjust.

And you're wrong about who is paying the bills. They give you that right.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
At what point do you feel outraged that your family members had to fight a meaningless, non-existential war halfway around the world and we are still repeating those mistakes today? In my mind, people like you should be the MOST against these foreign expeditionary conflicts.
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I am.
 
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I hate to think it, but DC is all in on Ukraine. Too much pride and failure probably ends NATO, so they will keep escalating. DC is in a horrible spot. No way Ukraine can win under the current siutuation, so status quo is nothing but a sacrificial meat grinder. Going to take courage to cut the aid or negotiate a settlement.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You don't build pride in country with mandatory labor.
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Do you build pride by *****ing on everything your countries gives you???
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That goes against the very principles of this country and the founding documents.

Inalienable rights...

Our rights are not given to us by the military or the police or the govt, but are/can be limited by them.
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Who defends those rights?? True freedom is a myth.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I hate to think it, but DC is all in on Ukraine. Too much pride and failure probably ends NATO, so they will keep escalating. DC is in a horrible spot. No way Ukraine can win under the current siutuation, so status quo is nothing but a sacrificial meat grinder. Going to take courage to cut the aid or negotiate a settlement.
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Ukraine was never going to win.

Just like Taiwan will never win against China.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Ukraine was never going to win.

Just like Taiwan will never win against China.
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You think people should allow dictators and thugs to steal their country and subjugate them? You're another Private Bone Spurs. Fortunately, most people have the guts to fight--and die, if necessary--for their freedom.
 
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Speaking of Private Bone Spurs, here's the pathetic man himself claiming he always wanted to get a purple heart. There is no bull$hit this man
won't spew. Same guy who had a doctor lie and claim he had bad feet so he could avoid serving. Same guy that called POWs and dead soldiers "losers."

 
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