2024 Recruiting Thread

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PRG said:
The Hoopgurlz top 100 players for 2024 have not posted yet ! Only the top 60…. Remember Pissott committed and was ranked 35 at the time but ended up at #11 overall! And the Harper haters were blasting Kelly for taking such a lowly ranked recruit….. Then the crow eating began with new rankings. But they got the last laugh as she transferred anyway ? This recruit could move up or down ? But to be ranked 30 ish , is not a bad thing! Just my opinion
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For most schools nowadays, to land a top 100 recruit is hitting the jackpot. To get top 30 players the separation is very low between them and the top 5. Lets remember where Rhyne Howard was ranked or Rae Burrell or I can name 15-20 others that are thriving right now in the WNBA. The number does not mean as much today as it used to 20 years ago when great players were few and far between.
 
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Memvol44 said:
We may need to open the checkbook and get Law back here...or someone similar...This is a gut punch to Kellie....Time and money spent wining and dining her and her family..it's almost thievery...I think she knew where she was going all along.
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Memvol44 said:
That needs to stop Recruiting coaches need to weed out the players who have 0 interest in actually attending The University of Tennessee...
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It is what it always has been....Kids pick coaches, not universities.

If it were the universities that drew the talent,,,, UCON, LSU, Baylor, South Carolina and Tennessee would have never reached the plateau they did/have...Those kids went there to be coached by Geno, Kim, Dawn, Pat, etc.

Its that way in the HS's
Its that way in the AAU/exposure circuit
Its that way in college
The only anomaly is the Pros....Players play where they are drafted, not the location or coach.
 
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Memvol44 said:
We may need to open the checkbook and get Law back here...or someone similar...This is a gut punch to Kellie....Time and money spent wining and dining her and her family..it's almost thievery...I think she knew where she was going all along.
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I think law left because of her mom I think she’ll only leave if it’s a head coaching job..but with this new visiting campus rules be expecting it she was probably on the fence between us and them and they probably offered more and she could stay closer to home🤷🏽‍♀️
 
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Coach Jumper said:
It is what it always has been....Kids pick coaches, not universities.

If it were the universities that drew the talent,,,, UCON, LSU, Baylor, South Carolina and Tennessee would have never reached the plateau they did/have...Those kids went there to be coached by Geno, Kim, Dawn, Pat, etc.

Its that way in the HS's
Its that way in the AAU/exposure circuit
Its that way in college
The only anomaly is the Pros....Players play where they are drafted, not the location or coach.
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Well, I'm at a lose.Kellie is an energetic young coach. Proven winner, players absolutely love her.The campus,surroundings, history of the storied program. There is something wrong somewhere,to strike out on so many talented young ladies.
 
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Memvol44 said:
Well, I'm at a lose.Kellie is an energetic young coach. Proven winner, players absolutely love her.The campus,surroundings, history of the storied program. There is something wrong somewhere,to strike out on so many talented young ladies.
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You mean you're at a "loss." Yes, a tough prospect to...lose.
 
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Memvol44 said:
Well, I'm at a lose.Kellie is an energetic young coach. Proven winner, players absolutely love her.The campus,surroundings, history of the storied program. There is something wrong somewhere,to strike out on so many talented young ladies.
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Believe it starts with the fans perception of Kellie. She’s mid-40’s and hasn’t won championships at the Power 5 level. You’re only as good as the people you surround yourself with and to date that should be telling considering her staff not being able to secure kids. Todays kids need new traditions not reruns of Pat and the championship years.
 
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Majors said:
Believe it starts with the fans perception of Kellie. She’s mid-40’s and hasn’t won championships at the Power 5 level. You’re only as good as the people you surround yourself with and to date that should be telling considering her staff not being able to secure kids. Todays kids need new traditions not reruns of Pat and the championship years.
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Well, Kellie is the "deal closer" but your right.Maybe time for an assistant coach redo. Really like both assistants (John adds nothing) but the proof is in the pudding. Way too many strike outs.
 
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Memvol44 said:
Well, Kellie is the "deal closer" but your right.Maybe time for an assistant coach redo. Really like both assistants (John adds nothing) but the proof is in the pudding. Way too many strike outs.
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Kellie needs her a Mickie DeMoss like Pat had,DeMoss laid the foundation and Pat closed, I see no top recruiter like she was for Pat on Kellie's staff jmo
 
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ShortyMac10 said:
I think law left because of her mom I think she’ll only leave if it’s a head coaching job..but with this new visiting campus rules be expecting it she was probably on the fence between us and them and they probably offered more and she could stay closer to home🤷🏽‍♀️
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Her home state, plus sizeable pay increase from 160K (Tennessee) to 246K…she is now under 300K. She’s not the highest paid assistant if that tells you the investments between the two programs.
 
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Memvol44 said:
Well, Kellie is the "deal closer" but your right.Maybe time for an assistant coach redo. Really like both assistants (John adds nothing) but the proof is in the pudding. Way too many strike outs.
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Stated here for a few years Jon brings nothing to the staff (not a popular opinion). He’s not known for recruiting, he’s not known for development and has been by her side since day 1 on the bench with the same results.
 
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Majors said:
Stated here for a few years Jon brings nothing to the staff (not a popular opinion). He’s not known for recruiting, he’s not known for development and has been by her side since day 1 on the bench with the same results.
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He may be a good guy but he is just an overpaid gopher for the coach
 
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Majors said:
Stated here for a few years Jon brings nothing to the staff (not a popular opinion). He’s not known for recruiting, he’s not known for development and has been by her side since day 1 on the bench with the same results.
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Yes, could be a sticking point with Kellie. Either he stays or they are both gone. Might be what happened at N.C.State....
 
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turbovol said:
You mean you're at a "loss." Yes, a tough prospect to...lose.
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At least it wasn't "loose". Hate that!
Majors said:
hasn’t won championships at the Power 5 level.
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IMO that's it in a nutshell. Less than nothing to do with assistants. That's shuffling deck chairs. Lots to love here, but bottom line, you've got to be a proven winner to get elites. We've had too many spankings on national tv. We're about 3 or 4 big wins away. Hopefully those will happen in the upcoming season.
 
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glv98 said:
At least it wasn't "loose". Hate that!

IMO that's it in a nutshell. Got to be a proven winner. Lots to love here, but too many spankings on national tv. We're about 3 or 4 big wins away. Hopefully those will happen in the upcoming season.
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Spankings equal playing time for newcomers..
 
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Memvol44 said:
Well, I'm at a lose.Kellie is an energetic young coach. Proven winner, players absolutely love her.The campus,surroundings, history of the storied program. There is something wrong somewhere,to strike out on so many talented young ladies.
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It's called NIL. With Thomas, by staying in NC, she can earn NIL money as a high schooler. That's a huge advantage for her. We have similar legislation too but that doesn't help on an NC kid.

NIL won last year too when we were outbid by LSU. I say it time and time again, but if you win NIL, you win recruiting. Don't get me wrong either, we have pretty good NIL, but there are times we will lose those battles or there will be favorable in state legislation.
 
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I still think that N.C. girl knew where she was committing all along. She basically used our resources for a good time. Hope we get the chance to spank them in the coming years.
 
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