2024 Recruiting Thread

[Majors]

The Haslam brothers are worth 7.4 billion collectively. I bet they donate heavily to the collective that supports football, men’s basketball and baseball

Jimmy and Dee just bought a portion of the Milwaukee Bucks for 3.5B

 

[Volfan2012]

Not sure that they do. They are heavy donors to the AD, but not sure about NIL. And even if they do donate to Spyre, their father played football for the General, so it would be natural for them to support football. Where are the Lady Vol alums in pushing the LV collective? You would think they'd be interested in keeping Pat's legacy alive. This isn't on Danny White. He doesn't run the collectives. IF we're losing recruits because of NIL, that's on Lady Vol supporters not supporting the collective. They can only spend the money they have. It's also on KJH. She needs to fight for her players to get what they deserve, and she needs to make it known that she needs more from the fans to keep the legacy of the LV's going. DW is there to support ALL sports, which he has done. KJH is there to run the LV basketball program.

I get that everyone loves KJH because she is one of us. But Pat didn't believe in making excuses. The success of this program and the failures of this program, they land at the feet of the HC, and that's currently KJH.

The Nil situation may be great or terrible we don't know. If you give any money to a collective it is done in blind faith you have no idea who the money is going to. Whereas SC announces every player is getting 25k at least we have no idea if some of our players are getting a dollar. The problem will be what will we be able to offer recruits? Thus far that seems to be next to nothing as no one is breaking down any doors to come here. So maybe that is the past this portal season and 2024 high school will tell us a lot more about our Nil situation cause everybody going to be bidding and I suspect in a lot of cases the highest bidder will be the winner.

 

[Weezer]

And that's a big IF. We just don't know exactly what the NIL situation is for the LVs. Hopefully newly award-winning LV beat reporter Cora Hall will write a story on this and clear it up for us. The key question appears to be whether the split of LV NIL into its own entity is causing a problem. Maybe it's not.

KJH has fought pretty hard for the Boost Her Club, as have the players. It's very heavily promoted at games and around Knoxville. They have done tons of events, appearances, commercials, etc. They have their own store, also heavily promoted. KJH is definitely trying to keep up, that's why she hired a NIL coordinator.

Which brings it back to the LV supporters themselves. None of it falls on DW, though some seem to be trying to blame him.

I do think KJH could do herself a service if she enlisted the aid of some former alum. I get those in the coaching ranks are off limits, but why not look for support from someone like Candace Parker, or Tamika Catchings, or any other LV legend? Surely, they have an interest in keeping Pat's legacy alive?

 

[Volfan2012]

Which brings it back to the LV supporters themselves. None of it falls on DW, though some seem to be trying to blame him.

I do think KJH could do herself a service if she enlisted the aid of some former alum. I get those in the coaching ranks are off limits, but why not look for support from someone like Candace Parker, or Tamika Catchings, or any other LV legend? Surely, they have an interest in keeping Pat's legacy alive?

I with you on the blame has to go to KJH. Up to her and her staff to do what it takes to get the players we need to win. You have to be able to compete now more than just past tradition and fan support. It is now about Nil money for players. The ones that can provide it are going to be the winners.

 

[Weezer]

The Nil situation may be great or terrible we don't know. If you give any money to a collective it is done in blind faith you have no idea who the money is going to. Whereas SC announces every player is getting 25k at least we have no idea if some of our players are getting a dollar. The problem will be what will we be able to offer recruits? Thus far that seems to be next to nothing as no one is breaking down any doors to come here. So maybe that is the past this portal season and 2024 high school will tell us a lot more about our Nil situation cause everybody going to be bidding and I suspect in a lot of cases the highest bidder will be the winner.

South Carolina ladies' basketball benefits from being the only championship level sports team that they have. At least from the major sports.

 

[Volfan2012]

South Carolina ladies' basketball benefits from being the only championship level sports team that they have. At least from the major sports.

They do and to break that up or at least attempt to you have to have the Nil that they can't match. They should not benefit more than our women's basketball team we should have the resources. LSU is getting there won the recruiting last season. Were doing nothing getting no one out of high school. The portal haul was good this past season, but we still needed a recruiting class.

 

[Weezer]

They do and to break that up or at least attempt to you have to have the Nil that they can't match. They should not benefit more than our women's basketball team we should have the resources. LSU is getting there won the recruiting last season. Were doing nothing getting no one out of high school. The portal haul was good this past season, but we still needed a recruiting class.

My point was, at UT, donors have four sports to choose from that are competing at a high level. At SC, there is one sport competing at a high level. Because of that, the SC ladies' basketball team is going to get more dollars.

But yes, recruiting has to improve.

 

[Weezer]

And to break it down even further, here at UT, ladies' basketball also battles softball for support. When multiple sports are doing well, it divides the riches more than when a single sport is doing well. But somewhere in there a balance exists where we can still be successful in all these sports.

 

[River67]

Except he did this. When you have three competing and one is exclusive you kind of isolate yourself from the entire fan base.

WATCH: Tennessee AD Danny White publicly supports NIL collectives

Tennessee athletic director Danny White dropped a video on Twitter on Thursday afternoon, publicly supporting Spyre Sports and its Volunteer Club. He also endorsed the Lady Vol Boost Her Club, which has focused on women’s basketball and other female sports.

How’s the game day experience? Seems DW is doing his job….those Summitt Blue uniforms are nice. Never saw those under any other AD for all female sports…not to mention the football team wearing Summitt blue sleeves to honor Coach Summitt against UTM.

Old guard running or ruining LV BoostHer Club needs to fold up shop if they can’t play the game.

That’s exactly the problem! We need a young, innovative person running the collective and we don’t have that! We need someone who can wine and dine the deep pocket donors like Pratt and Haslam and try to get them to invest in the Lady Vols

 

[glv98]

Which brings it back to the LV supporters themselves. None of it falls on DW, though some seem to be trying to blame him.

I do think KJH could do herself a service if she enlisted the aid of some former alum. I get those in the coaching ranks are off limits, but why not look for support from someone like Candace Parker, or Tamika Catchings, or any other LV legend? Surely, they have an interest in keeping Pat's legacy alive?

She's way ahead of you. CP was all over the place for the Lofton weekend and many LV events. Many LV alumni were around, visible and introduced at halftime of UConn game. Holdsclaw was here just last week, along w Michelle M. All pushed Boost Her. Other than that . . .

 

[Weezer]

She's way ahead of you. CP was all over the place for the Lofton weekend and many LV events. Many LV alumni were around, visible and introduced at halftime of UConn game. Holdsclaw was here just last week, along w Michelle M. All pushed Boost Her. Other than that . . .

They're around, but are they being used to drive up NIL support? Those are two separate things.

 

[Majors]

That’s exactly the problem! We need a young, innovative person running the collective and we don’t have that! We need someone who can wine and dine the deep pocket donors like Pratt and Haslam and try to get them to invest in the Lady Vols

This is a humbling reminder that the Tennessee brand is bigger than the Lady Vols brand. Volunteer Club/Spyre are young and ahead of majority of the NCAA in this regard. All those donors don’t need to be dined they know and have supported the school and athletics for decades. Haslam, Goodfriend, Ergen to Thunder.

 

[Majors]

And to break it down even further, here at UT, ladies' basketball also battles softball for support. When multiple sports are doing well, it divides the riches more than when a single sport is doing well. But somewhere in there a balance exists where we can still be successful in all these sports.

Could be said the softball team has more roster talent top to bottom for NIL needs.

 

[Volfan2012]

They're around, but are they being used to drive up NIL support? Those are two separate things.

The answer seems to be a definite no. The sad thing is Lady Vols basketball was elite and it should've stayed that way. Evidently other sports are certainly more important as Lady Vol basketball continues to sink to a level it has never been except when the program first began. I just hope there is enough support to get it back to the elite level whatever it take to get it there.

 

[Majors]

The answer seems to be a definite no. The sad thing is Lady Vols basketball was elite and it should've stayed that way. Evidently other sports are certainly more important as Lady Vol basketball continues to sink to a level it has never been except when the program first began. I just hope there is enough support to get it back to the elite level whatever it take to get it there.

And there’s the answer. Too many believing the legacy of the old Lady Vol brand will be able to navigate the NIL era. Which is why I say they need to get out of the way. For the longest time it was football and women’s basketball….now it’s an entire athletic department of both men and women.

 

[Coach Jumper]

I am just gong by where they are playing and who they are guarding. Jackson has played more four than any other position. Horston has played more 1 and 2 but she won't be there in the WNBA probably a three for both. As far as why Puckett isn't playing other than how she has played is that we've used Jackson at the four most of when she has played this season.

Which is why we look so confused at times

With our present roster (per SEC level of competition),my depth chart:
1-Walker. Powell, Wynn, Miles
2- Pissott/Darby (Horston)
3- Horston, Jackson, Wynn
4- Striplin, Puckett, Franklin (Jackson for atheletic PFs )
5- (Key), Hollingshead, Striplin/Franklin

My present starters would be: 1-Walker,2-Horston, 3-Jackson, 4-Striplin, 5-Hollingshead

re Puckett, my assessment...Puckett isn't playing confidently bc she isn't playing enough to believe she's significant...I read Puckett as a personality like myself,,,being,,,,"If you expect the world of me, I will bust my butt to give it to you,,,but if you expect NOTHING out of me,,,then THAT is exactly WTF I will give you!!

 

[Coach Jumper]

And there’s the answer. Too many believing the legacy of the old Lady Vol brand will be able to navigate the NIL era. Which is why I say they need to get out of the way. For the longest time it was football and women’s basketball….now it’s an entire athletic department of both men and women.

players have changed
coaching has changed
organizations have changed
recruiting has changed
at some point we will have to as well

 

[Majors]

players have changed
coaching has changed
organizations have changed
recruiting has changed
at some point we will have to as well

No disagreeing here

 

[glv98]

They're around, but are they being used to drive up NIL support? Those are two separate things.

The answer seems to be a definite no.

The answer is a definite YES. That's why theyre here, that's what they do. Events, events, events. They've done WBB HOF events. They've smoozed the VIP room before games. They've talked to visiting recruits and taken pictures with them. They've come to practice and talked to current players. Chamique did a big autograph signing Thursday night before the game. They're constantly at Orange Mtn Designs, the LVs dedicated NIL store. I'm sure they do even more behind the scenes to massage potential donors. If the LVs have an NIL problem, it is definitely not for lack of involvement by legacy players.

And there’s the answer. Too many believing the legacy of the old Lady Vol brand will be able to navigate the NIL era. Which is why I say they need to get out of the way. For the longest time it was football and women’s basketball….now it’s an entire athletic department of both men and women.

Oh maybe the problem is that legacy players are actually involved? You guys are all over the place! Chamique and Candace are not in the way of the LVs being able to navigate NIL. Did you miss the very young, in touch specialist in NIL KJH just hired?

If, as rumor has it, the idea to split off LV NIL is hurting it's ability to earn competitive money, that is a problem. And whoever undertook that decision (if it happened) is who needs to get out of the way.

Again, I call upon Cora Hall to earn her recent award and clear this up for us!

 

[Majors]

The answer is a definite YES. That's why theyre here, that's what they do. Events, events, events. They've done WBB HOF events. They've smoozed the VIP room before games. They've talked to visiting recruits and taken pictures with them. They've come to practice and talked to current players. Chamique did a big autograph signing Thursday night before the game. They're constantly at Orange Mtn Designs, the LVs dedicated NIL store. I'm sure they do even more behind the scenes to massage potential donors. If the LVs have an NIL problem, it is definitely not for lack of involvement by legacy players.

Oh maybe the problem is that legacy players are actually involved? You guys are all over the place! Chamique and Candace are not in the way of the LVs being able to navigate NIL. Did you miss the very young, in touch specialist in NIL KJH just hired?

If, as rumor has it, the idea to split off LV NIL is hurting it's ability to earn competitive money, that is a problem. And whoever undertook that decision (if it happened) is who needs to get out of the way.

Again, I call upon Cora Hall to earn her recent award and clear this up for us!

An appearance at a game saying support XYZ NIL is a brief moment to an audience in the arena/event. Does that carry long term sustainability for funds continuously coming in? Them doing appearances is great, it’s like a quick charity boost.

What I mean by being in the way, is not the former players. But those fans/boosters who believe the Lady Vols brand can survive on their own. BoosterHer Club and Orange Mtn Design (partnership with Alumni Hall).

 

[glv98]

An appearance at a game saying support XYZ NIL is a brief moment to an audience in the arena/event. Does that carry long term sustainability for funds continuously coming in? Them doing appearances is great, it’s like a quick charity boost.

Yes those appearances carry long term sustainability for continuing support IMO. All the appearances by current players really help also. That's why one of them sits for two hours in sweaty uni on a school night and signs autographs after games

I've never seen the LVs this visable, and that includes in the Meek days when ESPN pushed them relentlessly. It's more than a charity sugar high, it makes them cool in the community again. It all works together to build interest that can persuade donors.

 

[Majors]

Yes those appearances carry long term sustainability for continuing support IMO. All the appearances by current players really help also. That's why one of them sits for two hours in sweaty uni on a school night and signs autographs after games

. I've never seen the LVs this visable, and that includes the Meek days when ESPN pushed them relentlessly. It's more than a charity sugar high, it makes them cool in the community again. Builds interest that can persuade donors hopefully.

How much can you tap into the demographic? Is the arena filled with older fans sprinkled in with families? The older generation has been the heartbeat of the program for support both home and away games but to me NIL is not their wheelhouse.

 

[37620VOL]

My present starters would be: 1-Walker,2-Horston, 3-Jackson, 4-Striplin, 5-Hollingshead

I don't think there is enough spacing with that lineup because there is not a decent 3-point threat. CKH won't do it but I think the solution is to take out Walker, make Horston the primary ball handler, and put a three-point shooter in at the 2.

 

[glv98]

make Horston the primary ball handler,

Kidding? Probably the last thing Jordan Horston needs right now is intensified decision-making responsibility.

Also? You could not get Jordan Walker out of Kellie's starting lineup with a stick of dynamite right now. Or probably ever.

 

[Coach Jumper]

I don't think there is enough spacing with that lineup because there is not a decent 3-point threat. CKH won't do it but I think the solution is to take out Walker, make Horston the primary ball handler, and put a three-point shooter in at the 2.

all five have hit threes before and given the "uconn everybody can shoot a 3 green light" could do it again