2024 Republican candidates beside Trump

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zeppelin128 said:
I could very well be completely wrong, we are years out from the primary. Just seems the Trump contingent of the party is strongest right now, and will likely carry him over any other GOP challenger. But a lot can happen in the next couple of years.
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For the record, I hope not.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
The rampant homophobia here, I'm done. I'm tired of it.
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homophobia - dislike of or prejudice against gay people.

Have I missed something? I didn't see anything @Weezer said that would close to homophobia much less rampant.
"I'm sure you heard lots of made up BS about Pete." I don't see how that is demeaning, other then you twisting something in your head.

That would be like saying this "burn this Republic to the ground for his ego" makes you a Trumpophobe

Neither of which I think is true. I know you got to be better then that.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Nikki Haley would be a huge challenge against Biden in 2024. Ron Desantis is Trump in a cheap suit, I don't see that happening.
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Biden won’t be on the ticket in 2024 and the Rs will do whatever is necessary during the primary to select a Bush/McCain/Romney type. Then they will lose in the general to whatever radical leftist disguised as a centrist the Dems put up. Votes won’t matter.

Don’t get me wrong I hope like hell Trump sits this one out completely.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I could very well be completely wrong, we are years out from the primary. Just seems the Trump contingent of the party is strongest right now, and will likely carry him over any other GOP challenger. But a lot can happen in the next couple of years.
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About 25 to 30 are die hard Trump supporters to the point it’s a cult. The other 70 to 75 really want a different option. Trump getting in simply cycles is right back to where we are now in 4 years after his term. This country needs to move forward and move on.
 
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Weezer said:
Why? I'm sure you heard lots of made up BS about Pete. No one is denying Trump is an egotistical ass hole, but your statement was a grand exaggeration. His policies weren't horrible, just his personality. No way in hell do I want Trump back in office, but I do believe he was doing better than Biden is currently doing policy-wise. Biden has been horrible.
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I find it amusing folks saying Pete is a victim of homophobia. His entire experience is being a mayor of a city the size of Chattanooga. Him being a homosexual is the only reason he gets any political traction.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I think you are underestimating Trump's ego, and the folks that want him back in office.
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Trump's ego might be one reason he doesn't run... I mean, you can really only blame fraud one time with any credibility.

Keeping with a basketball analogy (from a Republican strategist, no less) :

"Cry foul once after missing a shot and you're like Michael Jordan. Do it the next possession and you're Bill Laimbeer." - Karl Rove on Fox News
 
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C1500 said:
homophobia - dislike of or prejudice against gay people.

Have I missed something? I didn't see anything @Weezer said that would close to homophobia much less rampant.
"I'm sure you heard lots of made up BS about Pete." I don't see how that is demeaning, other then you twisting something in your head.

That would be like saying this "burn this Republic to the ground for his ego" makes you a Trumpophobe

Neither of which I think is true. I know you got to be better then that.
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No, of course Weezer was not being homophobic. I never said that at all. Look, I'm just done with this forum for a bit.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I wasn't calling Weez out. I'm not sure why people keep thinking that.
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I was calling out your belief that there’s this homophobic hatred of all things gay. the republicans in Texas elected a Trans, Wiccan to the Republican ticket and ultimately the Sherifs office. If people disagree with a person’s policies that doesn’t mean they’re racist or homophobic. It means they don’t like the person’s policy and the other stuff is a weak ass cop out.
 
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NEO said:
About 25 to 30 are die hard Trump supporters to the point it’s a cult. The other 70 to 75 really want a different option. Trump getting in simply cycles is right back to where we are now in 4 years after his term. This country needs to move forward and move on.
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Trump's flamboyant nature would still take the oxygen out of any Republican Primary field, just as it did in 2016. His blunt, confrontational style hasn't lost its appeal to the Republican base. Neither has his anti-woke, identity politics messaging. I doubt he would even get much of a challenge for the Republican nomination if he does decide to run.

I see Ron DeSantis mentioned a lot. He is like a cultivated and purified version of Trump. I'm not so sure that packaging works as well with the base.
 
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Gandalf said:
Realistically, there are 3 tiers right now.
Trump
DeSantis
Whoever Trump endorses instead of himself




Everyone else

I’m sure the establishment types might try with Pence or others but I don’t think any of them can get the support necessary to win.
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Agreed. Biden couldn't beat any of them right now. No way the dems have enthusiasm if things continue the way they are, and boy I sure don't see things getting better. Will be a slaughter in the mid terms.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I was calling out your belief that there’s this homophobic hatred of all things gay. the republicans in Texas elected a Trans, Wiccan to the Republican ticket and ultimately the Sherifs office. If people disagree with a person’s policies that doesn’t mean they’re racist or homophobic. It means they don’t like the person’s policy and the other stuff is a weak ass cop out.
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I'm glad there is at least one example of this, but you are fooling yourself if you think conservatives give a **** about LGBTQ folks. They'll be the first under the bus.
 
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Weezer said:
Why? I'm sure you heard lots of made up BS about Pete. No one is denying Trump is an egotistical ass hole, but your statement was a grand exaggeration. His policies weren't horrible, just his personality. No way in hell do I want Trump back in office, but I do believe he was doing better than Biden is currently doing policy-wise. Biden has been horrible.
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As if being better than Biden is an acceptable baseline. Trump was horrible on policy. We got fake economic growth that we paid for with massive debt growth, nothing at the border got fixed, he escalated multiple trade wars and won 0 of them, etc.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump's flamboyant nature would still take the oxygen out of any Republican Primary field, just as it did in 2016. His blunt, confrontational style hasn't lost its appeal to the Republican base. Neither has his anti-woke, identity politics messaging. I doubt he would even get much of a challenge for the Republican nomination if he does decide to run.

I see Ron DeSantis mentioned a lot. He is like a cultivated and purified version of Trump. I'm not so sure that packaging works as well with the base.
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DeSantis lost my vote with his mandates, he’s no different than Biden just wearing a different robe.
 
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