2024 Republican candidates beside Trump

[Gandalf]

Interesting that I saw Trump is selling the DC hotel. Lost $70 mill while he was in office. There goes the narrative that he was raking in all that foreign money getting people to stay in his hotel.

Anyway, I wonder if that portends anything regarding his plans for 2024. I mean he is 75 and would be 78 if he won again. I think his health is fine enough to do so now but I wonder if he wants to. I am guessing he puts a lot into the midterms and decides right afterward - which probably helps his chosen successor if he doesnt run. Nobody will get any air until Trump decides what he wants to do. Desantis is running for Gov again so he gets to do that, then if Trump decides not to, he gets to pivot right into the GOP primary, very likely with Trump's blessing. Unless he does something really stupid, it is hard to see how anyone else not named Trump or Desantis is not the top of the GOP ticket in 2024 right now.

 

[Vol423]

My top pick would be Mitch Daniels but he won't run. Haley or Scott would be interesting. Praying Trump won't run

Most likely I'll be voting Spike Cohen assuming he wins the L nomination.

Wonderful. A wasted vote. This is how "Weekend at Bernie's" Biden gets reelected.

 

[volinbham]

Wonderful. A wasted vote. This is how "Weekend at Bernie's" Biden gets reelected.

given I live in Alabama it will have no impact on the outcome of the race but it is the purest use of a vote and maybe if others say 3rd party candidates getting votes they'll join in.

 

[AM64]

Wonderful. A wasted vote. This is how "Weekend at Bernie's" Biden gets reelected.

Sad but true. Those 81M (allegedly) are going to vote for a dem regardless. Unfortunately the only counter to that for the foreseeable future is to vote for the GOP candidate; if you do anything else, you might as well have voted D. It's simply a matter of being dem or anti-dem.

 

[utvolpj]

Wonderful. A wasted vote. This is how "Weekend at Bernie's" Biden gets reelected.

"Wasted vote"? Voting for the most aligned isn't wasted. This argument pops up every few years and is always terrible

Maybe a better candidate is needed from both parties. If the GOP trots out Trump again they deserve to lose

 

[AM64]

given I live in Alabama it will have no impact on the outcome of the race but it is the purest use of a vote and maybe if others say 3rd party candidates getting votes they'll join in.

I've been there and done that, so I don't disagree with your logic since the total vote count doesn't elect the president. The danger is when people in places like GA do it; the margin was so slim there in the last election that if people had voted R instead of independent or whatever, the outcome might very well have been different.

 

[OrangeTsar]

"Wasted vote"? Voting for the most aligned isn't wasted. This argument pops up every few years and is always terrible

Maybe a better candidate is needed from both parties. If the GOP trots out Trump again they deserve to lose

And who, pray tell, will the Democrats „trot out“ that isn’t already to the left of Che Guavara? Mean Tweet Trump still is preferable to any of the mini Trotskys the Dems currently have on their bench.

 

[utvolpj]

And who, pray tell, will the Democrats „trot out“ that isn’t already to the left of Che Guavara? Mean Tweet Trump still is preferable to any of the mini Trotskys the Dems currently have on their bench.

The truth is neither is preferable and neither is with a vote. Biden sucks. Trump sucks. Choose better candidates if you want people to vote for them

 

[tnmarktx]

given I live in Alabama it will have no impact on the outcome of the race but it is the purest use of a vote and maybe if others say 3rd party candidates getting votes they'll join in.

A third party candidate has zero chance to ever get elected. The better option is to pick a party between the two that collude with each other to keep the third party out. Look up the precinct committeeman strategy to get your preferred candidate in your party of choice.
Home - Precinct Strategy

 

[volinbham]

"Wasted vote"? Voting for the most aligned isn't wasted. This argument pops up every few years and is always terrible

Maybe a better candidate is needed from both parties. If the GOP trots out Trump again they deserve to lose

Yep. The reality is the bad candidate who won last time is so bad it's going swing power back to the side that wanted the other bad candidate. Biden winning is actually better for Republicans than if Trump had won just as Trump beating Hillary was better for Dems power aspirations.

 

[AM64]

"Wasted vote"? Voting for the most aligned isn't wasted. This argument pops up every few years and is always terrible

Maybe a better candidate is needed from both parties. If the GOP trots out Trump again they deserve to lose

If you have candidates R, D, and I. You absolutely don't want D to win and vote I (who really has no chance), taking a marginal vote from R who would have been your preference over D; and D wins because I siphoned off too many votes like yours, then you definitely wasted your vote. This is worse thinking than a moral victory in a football loss.

 

[Vol423]

Florida isn't in the top 5 to worry about

Really? When was the last time a Republican won the presidency without winning Florida?

 

[utvolpj]

If you have candidates R, D, and I. You absolutely don't want D to win and vote I (who really has no chance), taking a marginal vote from R who would have been your preference over D; and D wins because I siphoned off too many votes like yours, then you definitely wasted your vote. This is worse thinking than a moral victory in a football loss.

You're under the impression one must only vote for what the system has deemed a viable candidate. Great thinking since that's how we get Trump vs Biden. Voting for who you would prefer to win is not a wasted vote except to those whose candidate is so terrible they're worried about every single ballot

Support candidates, not parties

 

[hog88]

Sad but true. Those 81M (allegedly) are going to vote for a dem regardless. Unfortunately the only counter to that for the foreseeable future is to vote for the GOP candidate; if you do anything else, you might as well have voted D. It's simply a matter of being dem or anti-dem.

Voting for your preferred candidate or write in isn't a wasted vote. Besides, who votes for who no longer matters.

 

[OrangeTsar]

The truth is neither is preferable and neither is with a vote. Biden sucks. Trump sucks. Choose better candidates if you want people to vote for them

Cannot disagree with you one iota there friend

 

[Vol423]

I could very well be completely wrong, we are years out from the primary. Just seems the Trump contingent of the party is strongest right now, and will likely carry him over any other GOP challenger. But a lot can happen in the next couple of years.

The key to Trump losing in the primaries (if he chooses to run in 2024, and I hope he doesn't) is for the field of GOP candidates to become very small, very fast. Trump will win a lot of states early in the primary season while the field of candidates is large.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Here is hoping we can get Basil Marceaux to come out of retirement for 2024. the Hero we deserve for sure

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I'm glad there is at least one example of this, but you are fooling yourself if you think conservatives give a **** about LGBTQ folks. They'll be the first under the bus.

They certainly shouldn't be getting any special privileges. If that is throwing them under the bus, then guilty as charged. They can pay taxes, wait in line, go to the store, etc etc etc just like errybody else without front of the line bennies. IOW, they ain't special.

 

[Vol423]

The rampant homophobia here, I'm done. I'm tired of it.

Where exactly? Making the correct assessment that Pete Buttigieg is a liberal political lightweight that wasn't even a good mayor for a small Indiana town somehow makes people homophobic?

 

[Vol423]

Yep. The reality is the bad candidate who won last time is so bad it's going swing power back to the side that wanted the other bad candidate. Biden winning is actually better for Republicans than if Trump had won just as Trump beating Hillary was better for Dems power aspirations.

That depends on exactly how much permanent damage is done to the nation in the process. It's not looking good.

 

[Vol423]

"Wasted vote"? Voting for the most aligned isn't wasted. This argument pops up every few years and is always terrible

Maybe a better candidate is needed from both parties. If the GOP trots out Trump again they deserve to lose

Yes. Wasted. If you want to rally the Libertarian base and try to become a legitimate threat to actually win an election sometime in the future, knock yourself out. I'm all for it. However, until that happens, when it comes to the general election, any vote for a third party candidate is currently a wasted vote. You may as well have not voted at all.

 

[Vol423]

I've been there and done that, so I don't disagree with your logic since the total vote count doesn't elect the president. The danger is when people in places like GA do it; the margin was so slim there in the last election that if people had voted R instead of independent or whatever, the outcome might very well have been different.

I agree.

 

[hog88]

Yes. Wasted. If you want to rally the Libertarian base and try to become a legitimate threat to actually win an election sometime in the future, knock yourself out. I'm all for it. However, until that happens, when it comes to the general election, any vote for a third party candidate is currently a wasted vote. You may as well have not voted at all.

In TN the winner of a presidential election is a forgone conclusion, me voting for Jill Stein has no affect so my vote is not wasted.

 

[Vol423]

In TN the winner of a presidential election is a forgone conclusion, me voting for Jill Stein has no affect so my vote is not wasted.

Don't count on that moving forward. You have a ton of liberals moving into Nashville as companies and individuals relocate from high tax states like New York and California. I expect Tennessee to flip blue in either 2024 or 2028. I live in AZ, where it was always a foregone conclusion also. Open borders combined with tons of liberals moving in from California and Illinois changed that.

 

[landscapingvol]

Nikki Haley will more than likely run as will Mike Pence. I could also see Rand Paul, Tim Scott, and Tom Cotton running. It wouldn't shock me if Trump doesn't run. I could see a few has beens testing the waters like Mitt Romney or Chris Christie.