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Eligibility has been brought up. The court ruled nothing that impedes the athlete's right to make money is legal. Limiting elig to 4 yrs definitely does that. Will have to be addressed in whatever contract is finally reached btw schools and players.

Not requiring class or a path toward graduation is also being talked about. Some are calling for it to be optional.

The collectives are fighting to stay relevant and keep NIL free agency alive. The schools will pay the revenue sharing base salary and back pay, but the collectives can still offer true name, image, and likeness compensation.

This is all very complicated and will take a couple of years to hammer out. But it's definitely the end of college sports that in any way resembles what we've known.
 
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glv98 said:
This is all very complicated and will take a couple of years to hammer out. But it's definitely the end of college sports that in any way resembles what we've known.
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True and true. Let us not overlook the provision of the NCAA settlement offer that has 60% of the cost of paying former athletes coming from non-P5 schools. The lawsuit was brought on behalf of athletes exclusively at the then Power 5 conferences. The rest of the Div. 1 schools have already begun to raise holy hell. This may well portend the end of the NCAA as we knew and loved it.
 
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glv98 said:
Eligibility has been brought up. The court ruled nothing that impedes the athlete's right to make money is legal. Limiting elig to 4 yrs definitely does that. Will have to be addressed in whatever contract is finally reached btw schools and players.

Not requiring class or a path toward graduation is also being talked about. Some are calling for it to be optional.

The collectives are fighting to stay relevant and keep NIL free agency alive. The schools will pay the base salary and back pay, but the collectives can still offer name, image, and likeness compensation.

This is all very complicated and will take a couple of years to hammer out. But it's definitely the end of college sports that in any way resembles what we've known.
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Gotta believe that the lower end of the earnings spectrum, dependent on the existence of the amateur/scholly system will fire up their own lawsuits to insure that the old model can co-exist since less than 2% (last I heard) will ever make a pro roster. The NCAA cleared the obstruction hurdle with their latest actions. Now will get clobbered from the other side IF IF IF anything beyond NIL in the pay for play arena costs D2 and D3 a dime. So the revenue to support players will have to continue to be outside TV contracts etc. Gate, concessions, and incremental booster donations etc. Damages would be easily calculated with annual distribution.

Lower D1’s will just sit back and take it in and wink.

These efforts wil be bolstered by congressmen with schools (voters) in every district outside the P5 footprint with pay cuts. Litigation proliferation will be fun once first proposed distribution is announced.

Bet they are laying back in the weeds.
 
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1reVOLver said:
True and true. Let us not overlook the provision of the NCAA settlement offer that has 60% of the cost of paying former athletes coming from non-P5 schools. The lawsuit was brought on behalf of athletes exclusively at the then Power 5 conferences. The rest of the Div. 1 schools have already begun to raise holy hell. This may well portend the end of the NCAA as we knew and loved it.
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Yep, there is no way this precedent stays confined to the power 5 schools.

I get the point of the blue font but college sports (and Title IX) has been sustained by a long series of arbitrary classifications, most notably the very malleable line between amateurism and professionalism.

It has been a thinly veiled sham but one that is incredibly popular and beloved by many and that has given opportunities to untold men and women college-athletes. It has also been a great feeder program for many of our Olympic sports.

It seems like all that will be defunct in the very near future.

How much will college sports fans really care about professional teams that are essentially a second tier to the NFL, NBA and WNBA?

I am not sure how many other sports, other than Football and men's, and women's basketball, will be viable in this world of revenue sharing.

Some schools here and there may have super successful programs in hockey or volleyball that can break even in this new world but you need a critical mass of programs to have a slate of games to play.

I suppose these scattered surviving non-revenue teams might be able to compete on a national, rather than conference level among say 12 hockey schools or 10 schools that support women's volleyball.

I think Title IX is on its last legs, sadly.
 
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madtownvol said:
Yep, there is no way this precedent stays confined to the power 5 schools.

I get the point of the blue font but college sports (and Title IX) has been sustained by a long series of arbitrary classifications, most notably the very malleable line between amateurism and professionalism.

It has been a thinly veiled sham but one that is incredibly popular and beloved by many and that has given opportunities to untold men and women college-athletes. It has also been a great feeder program for many of our Olympic sports.

It seems like all that will be defunct in the very near future.

How much will college sports fans really care about professional teams that are essentially a second tier to the NFL, NBA and WNBA?

I am not sure how many other sports, other than Football and men's, and women's basketball, will be viable in this world of revenue sharing.

Some schools here and there may have super successful programs in hockey or volleyball that can break even in this new world but you need a critical mass of programs to have a slate of games to play.

I suppose these scattered surviving non-revenue teams that might be able to compete on a national, rather than conference level among say 12 hockey schools or 10 schools that support women's volleyball.

I think Title IX is on its last legs, sadly.
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It’s complicated. Logically though, the university sharing could fairly be allocated based on revenue or profitability of each sport. Outside NIL will no doubt remain unrestrained based on previous rulings.
 
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madtownvol said:
Yep, there is no way this precedent stays confined to the power 5 schools.

I get the point of the blue font but college sports (and Title IX) has been sustained by a long series of arbitrary classifications, most notably the very malleable line between amateurism and professionalism.

It has been a thinly veiled sham but one that is incredibly popular and beloved by many and that has given opportunities to untold men and women college-athletes. It has also been a great feeder program for many of our Olympic sports.

It seems like all that will be defunct in the very near future.

How much will college sports fans really care about professional teams that are essentially a second tier to the NFL, NBA and WNBA?

I am not sure how many other sports, other than Football and men's, and women's basketball, will be viable in this world of revenue sharing.

Some schools here and there may have super successful programs in hockey or volleyball that can break even in this new world but you need a critical mass of programs to have a slate of games to play.

I suppose these scattered surviving non-revenue teams that might be able to compete on a national, rather than conference level among say 12 hockey schools or 10 schools that support women's volleyball.

I think Title IX is on its last legs, sadly.
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Agree on Title IX especially when they let biological men who declare themselves women and allow them to participate in Women's sports.What I do not understand why women of all ages are not protesting this travesty evry day ,every hour until that is changed......
 
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alexvol said:
Agree on Title IX especially when they let biological men who declare themselves women and allow them to participate in Women's sports.What I do not understand why women of all ages are not protesting this travesty evry day ,every hour until that is changed......
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Well, transgender athletes are an entirely different issue from this class action settlement.
 
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1reVOLver said:
You raise many good points. The NCAA, in an attempt to evade much greater financial liability,
has offered a settlement that, if approved by a judge, could have a great many unintended consequences.

— Would other college students in recreational groups such as symphony orchestras be entitled to pay?
— Would foreign students on Student Visas be prohibited from playing sports as employees?
— Would students in union friendly states be treated differently from those in right-to-work bastions?
— Could universities insist on buyout clauses in students’ athletic contracts as a means to limit portal jumping?

The NCAA is desperate for Congress to set some guidelines. Without congressional action, we can look forward to a fine mess.
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Your symphony and any activity that charges a ticket fee…Theater ETC…that is bringing money into school is I believe the fly in the ointment of the settlement

The NCAA should have settled with the clause that schools are only required to pay for Positive Cash Flow sports. This would have answered a lot of questions and maybe settled the Title IX issue.
 
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