2024 TRANSFER TRACKER

[brittannica]

Sounds like our type! Just kidding, don't see what we're doing here. ! yr left, undersized at 5'6", not great a/t.o. ratio, 40% fg, 30% 3 pt, 50% ft. Not feeling this.

Yeah, I went ick when I saw it. Obvi will support her and root for the best should she come here, but that’s not inspiring to me i’m sorry.

 

[glv98]

I agree, it seems like people think this system will make everyone great shooters all of a sudden, yea u will get up more shots but all that means is more bricks. We need guards that can shoot.

I know a faster pace, and especially not forcing passes into the post, is more exciting and I'm here for it. But the stated philosophy of "never mind if we can't shoot we'll make up for it by playing demon D, forcing t.o.s, crashing our misses, and therefore cover for poor shoot percentage with more attempts". Whew, that sounds like a hell of a lot of trouble. How bout just hit shots in the first place?

 

[Volfan2012]

I'm already very tired of hearing 'style" over shooting and scoring. We have to bring in some more scoring since Coop and Boyd are unknowns and unlikely to be 3 pt shooters.

A lot of potential scorers some didn't play enough or shoot enough at their previous schools. Latham played 26 minutes, but most of the shooting was being done by the guards. She only averaged 8 shots per game a lot were offensive stick backs. Spearman only five shots per game. Just from watching her think she could be a really dynamic scorer inside and mid-range. Only played 19 minutes a game the coach there seemed to want to try and make three post players happy. Spearman, Lattimore, and Oldacre. Evidently none of the three liked it as all three got in the portal. Think we would have all the scoring we needed with current players and additions of Whitehorn and Kapinus of which we have no commit.

Don't see Dwyer and Spencer helping the scoring a lot. Maybe every now and then when they get in a rhythm.

 

[brittannica]

I know a faster pace, and especially not forcing passes into the post, is more exciting and I'm here for it. But the stated philosophy of "never mind if we can't shoot we'll make up for it by playing demon D, forcing t.o.s, crashing our misses, and therefore cover for poor shoot percentage with more attempts". Whew, that sounds like a hell of a lot of trouble. How bout just hit shots in the first place?

oh i’m obsessed with “demon D” and will be using that term at every opportunity to describe our “pressure defense.” Im not sold on Spencer either cause I don’t love the idea of a player who would openly mock her teammates on podcasts and their social media.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

A lot of potential scorers some didn't play enough or shoot enough at their previous schools. Latham played 26 minutes, but most of the shooting was being done by the guards. She only averaged 8 shots per game a lot were offensive stick backs. Spearman only five shots per game. Just from watching her think she could be a really dynamic scorer inside and mid-range. Only played 19 minutes a game the coach there seemed to want to try and make three post players happy. Spearman, Lattimore, and Oldacre. Evidently none of the three liked it as all three got in the portal. Think we would have all the scoring we needed with current players and additions of Whitehorn and Kapinus of which we have no commit.

Don't see Dwyer and Spencer helping the scoring a lot. Maybe every now and then when they get in a rhythm.

Latham has all the tools I look for so I’m ver confident on what she can become, I don’t know much about the others yet.

 

[Volfan2012]

I know a faster pace, and especially not forcing passes into the post, is more exciting and I'm here for it. But the stated philosophy of "never mind if we can't shoot we'll make up for it by playing demon D, forcing t.o.s, crashing our misses, and therefore cover for poor shoot percentage with more attempts". Whew, that sounds like a hell of a lot of trouble. How bout just hit shots in the first place?

80 possessions or more is probably the goal and if you average one point per possession then you score 80 a game. Marshall did not. Their average was below 1 point per possessions, but was close. They also averaged 87 possessions per game and 84 ppg. I considered them a terrible shooting team JMO, but they scored a lot in most of their games. They always managed a lot of possessions sometimes they couldn't make a shot.

 

[Volfan2012]

Latham has all the tools I look for so I’m ver confident on what she can become, I don’t know much about the others yet.

I'd say Spearman could develop into a really awesome post player. When she got the shots she showed a lot of ability with Miami. If I had been coaching there I would've got her the ball more. Out of three post players they were getting around 25 a game and 25 rebounds. I guess they considered that good enough so they limited three post players minutes.

 

[glv98]

80 possessions or more is probably the goal and if you average one point per possession then you score 80 a game. Marshall did not. Their average was below 1 point per possessions, but was close. They also averaged 87 possessions per game and 84 ppg. I considered them a terrible shooting team JMO, but they scored a lot in most of their games. They always managed a lot of possessions sometimes they couldn't make a shot.

I get all that, but it still seems like a lot more trouble than simply recruiting and developing shooters. Why the hell go to all that trouble to scavengeing for extra possesions? Just hit a damn shot. All this sounds way too clever by half to me But it does seem to be a 'style' we're hellbent for; it almost seems we're purposely loading up with players who's shooting and scoring is all in the "potential' and "could develop" category. Will be an interesting to watch play out for sure.

 

[Volfan2012]

I was feeling really good with the additions of Ruby Whitehorn and Leilah Kapinus joining the team. Both are really good scorers and defenders as well. Both are very consistent players that give you the same scoring almost every night. Without those two were taking a step back right now until they come aboard or we get someone that is comparable. I don't think Dwyer and Spencer are those players.

 

[Orange007]

No bashing, just going over public stats of a player. Not personal. These players got use to that kind of scrutiny years ago in AAU. Besides, no one cares what we think.

I definitely agree with the last part. We are irrelevant.

 

[VolFuture]

I was feeling really good with the additions of Ruby Whitehorn and Leilah Kapinus joining the team. Both are really good scorers and defenders as well. Both are very consistent players that give you the same scoring almost every night. Without those two were taking a step back right now until they come aboard or we get someone that is comparable. I don't think Dwyer and Spencer are those players.

No matter what we need the bodies and they are talented ones.. death by 12 man barrage takes 12 (wo)men

 

[Volfan2012]

I get all that, but it still seems like a lot more trouble than simply recruiting and developing shooters. Why the hell go to all that trouble to scavage for extra possesions? Just hit a damn shot. All this sounds way too clever by half to me But it does seem to be a 'style' we're hellbent for; it almost seems we're purposely loading up with players who's shooting and scoring is all in the "potential' and "could develop" category. Will be an interesting to watch play out for sure.

All I can think is that some players we've contacted were not interested so were going with who we can get. Just letting it play out and then I can determine what I think about the overall team and roster.

 

[madtownvol]

I know a faster pace, and especially not forcing passes into the post, is more exciting and I'm here for it. But the stated philosophy of "never mind if we can't shoot we'll make up for it by playing demon D, forcing t.o.s, crashing our misses, and therefore cover for poor shoot percentage with more attempts". Whew, that sounds like a hell of a lot of trouble. How bout just hit shots in the first place?

Reminds me of the old joke - we lose money on every sale but make up for it with volume....

I would guess that the real game plan will be to spread the floor with Jewell and Sara (and Tess is going to be needed) and then try to get slash and drive players to the rim. It sounds like the system will also be dependent on generating points off turnovers. I mean this system is basically what Matt Mitchell ran at KY with reasonably good success.

 

[glv98]

I was feeling really good with the additions of Ruby Whitehorn and Leilah Kapinus joining the team. Both are really good scorers and defenders as well. Both are very consistent players that give you the same scoring almost every night. Without those two were taking a step back right now until they come aboard or we get someone that is comparable. I don't think Dwyer and Spencer are those players.

Agree with all that. Ruby, Kapinus, and King seem a step ahead to me. I wonder if playing time might be an issue with any. We knew that would turn some away. Some players want sustained mins and not short bursts. For some, rythmn is a big thing. I know Rickea said that alot, depended on getting and staying in rythmn.

We need some more proven scoring. Then when all the potential scoring blooms we'll be sitting pretty.

 

[VolFuture]

I definitely agree with the last part. We are irrelevant.

I agree wayyyy too much speculation here that leans into the personal where I think it goes too far.

Be more objective like the OG post.
No matter what all the transfers we are looking at are ranked at their respective positions

 

[VolFuture]

Agree with all that. Ruby, Kapinus, and King seem a step ahead to me. I wonder if playing time might be an issue with any. We knew that would turn some away. Some players want sustained mins and not short bursts. For some, rythmn is a big thing. I know Rickea said that alot, depended on getting and staying in rythmn.

We need some more proven scoring. Then when all the potential scoring blooms we'll be sitting pretty.

I still have a good feeling tho

 

[glv98]

I definitely agree with the last part. We are irrelevant.

Except to each other! No one in our real lives want to talk about all this,

 

[glv98]

Be more objective like the OG post.

Stats are the most objective, non personal things in the world IMO. Just as is often said here, you are what you're record says you are, you are the player your stats say you are. All players expect that type eval, and all sports fan forums specialize in it.

 

[Volfan2012]

Reminds me of the old joke - we lose money on every sale but make up for it with volume....

I would guess that the real game plan will be to spread the floor with Jewell and Sara (and Tess is going to be needed) and then try to get slash and drive players to the rim. It sounds like the system will also be dependent on generating points off turnovers. I mean this system is basically what Matt Mitchell ran at KY with reasonably good success.

I can agree that her system worked at Marshall. Pushing 90 possessions per game while giving up 67. The opponent could shoot the lights out and still lose because of turnovers. We lost a few games ourselves because of turnovers. Just don't know if she is going to be able, even with better talent, to force a 20 possession deficit on SEC teams. So were going to need to be fairly decent shooters.

 

[Rooster1]

I imagine with all the portal PG interest by the staff that they have plans for Coop at the 2-3 spots, which imo would be ideal for her. She can focus on scoring more from those two spots. Whomever takes over the PG duties (yeah I realize there will be a rotation of 2-3 in your system) it obviously would be ideal for them to be decent three point shooters.

 

[Volfan2012]

Stats are the most objective, non personal things in the world IMO. Just as is often said here, you are what you're record says you are, you are the player your stats say you are. All players expect that type eval, and all sports fan forums specialize in it.

Especially if you have two or three seasons under your belt. Most are not suddenly going to change how they play. Some can become better shooters, but overall you will stay close to what you have been all those other years.

 

[VolFuture]

Stats are the most objective, non personal things in the world IMO. Just as is often said here, you are what you're record says you are, you are the player your stats say you are. All players expect that type eval, and all sports fan forums specialize in it.

Oh I get it and everyone disagrees. I don’t always agree with stats either they can be misleading. But more objective obviously.

End of the day they are looking for certain things in players and going after them

Imo as long as they are in the correct talent range they may blossom into a greater player given the chance. I don’t believe in guarantees esp with transfers

 

[brittannica]

Except to each other! No one in our real lives want to talk about all this,

I can’t talk about this with my partner anymore because he gets too mad at first he was telling me I had to give CKC a chance, and now he’s preparing his “it ain’t working” chants

 

[volbeast33]

I know a faster pace, and especially not forcing passes into the post, is more exciting and I'm here for it. But the stated philosophy of "never mind if we can't shoot we'll make up for it by playing demon D, forcing t.o.s, crashing our misses, and therefore cover for poor shoot percentage with more attempts". Whew, that sounds like a hell of a lot of trouble. How bout just hit shots in the first place?

When has coach Kim stated that was her philosophy?

 

[Volfan2012]

Oh I get it and everyone disagrees. I don’t always agree with stats either they can be misleading. But more objective obviously.

End of the day they are looking for certain things in players and going after them

Imo as long as they are in the correct talent range they may blossom into a greater player given the chance. I don’t believe in guarantees esp with transfers

I'll say this for Dwyer she is athletic little guard with very high energy. Spencer is that way also. Speed is their game and they work really hard all the time. All the Miami video I have watched I can say that about both Spearman and Dwyer.