2024 WNBA Discussion Thread

#406
#406
Still don’t understand why Wallace and Wheeler are getting so many minutes for the Fever off the bench. Just don’t feel like either brings anything special and they aren’t bringing the right energy.

For some reason both seem to be a bit jealous of Clark imo. They don’t wanna make the pass back and non-verbal communication seems weird between the 3 of them. Clark is an extreme competitor, not all of her new teammates are going to like it for sure. She’s a little MJesque in that way, but I’m of the opinion that if you’ve put in the work you can have a bit of the ego.

Does Saxton have an injury? I feel like she’s a player that could thrive playing with Clark. Leaner, quicker posts who can run the floor and finish are a perfect compliment to her passing game. Iowa did a fabulous job making sure she had a great target with great hands on every possession.

Also think Celeste Taylor should be getting at least some of Wheeler and Wallace’s minutes. She is an energy player and a dog on defense. She could be more like the Gabby Marshall to Clark, Gabby’s primary job was to be a lockdown defender and take that pressure off Clark so she did not have to guard the opponents best ball handler. She expends so much energy getting open and running the offense she deserves a little cushion on defense and Bluder got that.

Indiana is trying to put their 5 best scorers on the floor instead of their 5 best players and it’s hurting the team.
 
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DarkPhoenix said:
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The Sparks could’ve had Reese had they kept the number eighth pick because Coach Reeves wouldn’t have drafted her at 7 because she wouldn’t have taken a chance on Reese because of perceived drama nor would she have made a trade out past 8 she only traded with Chicago because they were 8th and she knew she wasn’t drafting Reese
 
#413
#413
LUVMESUMVOL said:
The Sparks could’ve had Reese had they kept the number eighth pick because Coach Reeves wouldn’t have drafted her at 7 because she wouldn’t have taken a chance on Reese because of perceived drama nor would she have made a trade out past 8 she only traded with Chicago because they were 8th and she knew she wasn’t drafting Reese
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If I was the Sparks I would have cleaned house and picked Rickea at 2 and Reese at 4, they would t have a good season and probably get a top 3 pick in next years draft and picked Kiki Irianfen, that would have been the perfect scenario.
 
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#415
#415
lvocd said:
FYI: Jordy is crashing the boards bigtime for the Storm right now as they play the Mystics. Seattle up by 10 -- nearing halftime.
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Not sure what happened there, Jordy ended up only playing 15 mins while Vivians played 23. JH had 5 pt (including a 3!) and 7 rebs, Vivians had 7 pts and 3 rebs. JH was coming off of a couple of her best games.

W subbing is hard to figure out sometimes. The Storm did get their first win. Doesn't get easier for them though, they play the Liberty in NY tonight.
 
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glv98 said:
Not sure what happened there, Jordy ended up only playing 15 mins while Vivians played 23. JH had 5 pt (including a 3!) and 7 rebs, Vivians had 7 pts and 3 rebs. JH was coming off of a couple of her best games.

W subbing is hard to figure out sometimes. The Storm did get their first win. Doesn't get easier for them though, they play the Liberty in NY tonight.
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I know +/- isn't the "end all, be all", but Victoria was a +3 and JH was a -4.

I think that both players can pretty much be used interchangeably. Between them, they had 12 pts and 10 rbs, so they are essentially a hybrid starter.
 
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#418
I had a good acquaintance, a struggling actress and bartender when I lived in LA. She had sugar daddies lined up like crows on a cornfield fence on any given weekend night. Not me, my then girlfriend and now wife was just as hot and would be with me when on a barstool watching a game or fight with the usual locals. To make a long story short, she often complained she avoided attending WNBA games because so many of the players then were so overtly and outwardly gay, flirting with women in the stands frequently. I think that may have laid a false impression early on that the WNBA was a predominantly a gay league of women. From a marketing standpoint that would make it harder to gain a national following. More recently two of the better female players in Clark and Reese coming with headlines both push their personal heterosexual preference in how they market themselves. Clark has multiple and varied stories out there in the media about her boyfriend. When have we seen that about a female collegiate player previously? Reese models and is known as the Bayou Barbie and herself had a story or two in the media about her boyfriend as well. Other players may be gay for all I know but they appear very feminine, take Rickea Jackson for example. As easy on the eyes as Reese but also a tremendous competitor. It may be the WNBA since it needs tv money to thrive and survive will recognize it’s a visual media finally. What does that mean? I think it could mean the WNBA will be pushing more players in the future who have an appearance and voice like that of Candace Parker rather than Brittney Griner even though both are gay. Clark and Reese both by virtue of little girls and their mothers purchasing their jerseys are voting with their $s the types of players they’re going to support in the WNBA.
 
#420
#420
Remy said:
I had a good acquaintance, a struggling actress and bartender when I lived in LA. She had sugar daddies lined up like crows on a cornfield fence on any given weekend night. Not me, my then girlfriend and now wife was just as hot and would be with me when on a barstool watching a game or fight with the usual locals. To make a long story short, she often complained she avoided attending WNBA games because so many of the players then were so overtly and outwardly gay, flirting with women in the stands frequently. I think that may have laid a false impression early on that the WNBA was a predominantly a gay league of women. From a marketing standpoint that would make it harder to gain a national following. More recently two of the better female players in Clark and Reese coming with headlines both push their personal heterosexual preference in how they market themselves. Clark has multiple and varied stories out there in the media about her boyfriend. When have we seen that about a female collegiate player previously? Reese models and is known as the Bayou Barbie and herself had a story or two in the media about her boyfriend as well. Other players may be gay for all I know but they appear very feminine, take Rickea Jackson for example. As easy on the eyes as Reese but also a tremendous competitor. It may be the WNBA since it needs tv money to thrive and survive will recognize it’s a visual media finally. What does that mean? I think it could mean the WNBA will be pushing more players in the future who have an appearance and voice like that of Candace Parker rather than Brittney Griner even though both are gay. Clark and Reese both by virtue of little girls and their mothers purchasing their jerseys are voting with their $s the types of players they’re going to support in the WNBA.
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I don’t think the WNBA has changed in terms of percentage of lesbian players. I think society has finally realized, WHO CARES!??
 
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Remy said:
I had a good acquaintance, a struggling actress and bartender when I lived in LA. She had sugar daddies lined up like crows on a cornfield fence on any given weekend night. Not me, my then girlfriend and now wife was just as hot and would be with me when on a barstool watching a game or fight with the usual locals. To make a long story short, she often complained she avoided attending WNBA games because so many of the players then were so overtly and outwardly gay, flirting with women in the stands frequently. I think that may have laid a false impression early on that the WNBA was a predominantly a gay league of women. From a marketing standpoint that would make it harder to gain a national following. More recently two of the better female players in Clark and Reese coming with headlines both push their personal heterosexual preference in how they market themselves. Clark has multiple and varied stories out there in the media about her boyfriend. When have we seen that about a female collegiate player previously? Reese models and is known as the Bayou Barbie and herself had a story or two in the media about her boyfriend as well. Other players may be gay for all I know but they appear very feminine, take Rickea Jackson for example. As easy on the eyes as Reese but also a tremendous competitor. It may be the WNBA since it needs tv money to thrive and survive will recognize it’s a visual media finally. What does that mean? I think it could mean the WNBA will be pushing more players in the future who have an appearance and voice like that of Candace Parker rather than Brittney Griner even though both are gay. Clark and Reese both by virtue of little girls and their mothers purchasing their jerseys are voting with their $s the types of players they’re going to support in the WNBA.
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The W had no problem promoting Sue Bird as the face of the league either. You could drop out the entire "gay" issue and just say the W wants to promote its more attractive stars, which makes it like every other industry in the entertainment business.

Clark is actually a bit of an exception because she is the classic girl next door type, not a glam girl fashionista like Rickea or Angel.
 
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madtownvol said:
The W had no problem promoting Sue Bird as the face of the league either. You could drop out the entire "gay" issue and just say the W wants to promote its more attractive stars, which makes it like every other industry in the entertainment business.

Clark is actually a bit of an exception because she is the classic girl next door type, not a glam girl fashionista like Rickea or Angel.
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Sue Bird presided over a league with a stagnant fan base and basically had to be subsidized to stay in business. The WNBA will fail if most of the league begins to appear and sound like Brittney Griner and less like Candace Parker. Both of those two are gay, one pushes it everyone's face by her mere appearance and conduct and the other has that aspect of her life as only one facet of a more well rounded person. TV is a visual media and the bulk of viewers like what they like. I was reminded recently during the 1960 election debates those who heard on radio Nixon and Kennedy go at each other most thought Nixon clearly won. Those who watched on tv clearly thought Kennedy carried it. One was more pleasant in appearance than the other and the rest is history.
 
#423
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madtownvol said:
The W had no problem promoting Sue Bird as the face of the league either. You could drop out the entire "gay" issue and just say the W wants to promote its more attractive stars, which makes it like every other industry in the entertainment business.

Clark is actually a bit of an exception because she is the classic girl next door type, not a glam girl fashionista like Rickea or Angel.
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Caitlin is a change your on flat tire kind of girl. The other 2 you mentioned calls AAA.
 
#424
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Remy said:
Sue Bird presided over a league with a stagnant fan base and basically had to be subsidized to stay in business. The WNBA will fail if most of the league begins to appear and sound like Brittney Griner and less like Candace Parker. Both of those two are gay, one pushes it everyone's face by her mere appearance and conduct and the other has that aspect of her life as only one facet of a more well rounded person. TV is a visual media and the bulk of viewers like what they like. I was reminded recently during the 1960 election debates those who heard on radio Nixon and Kennedy go at each other most thought Nixon clearly won. Those who watched on tv clearly thought Kennedy carried it. One was more pleasant in appearance than the other and the rest is history.
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How many people on this planet lookand sound like Britney Griner? Who else are you talking about?
 
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#425
As most here may know, until this season I had never watched a WNBA game. I watched parts of two games this past week. I watched half of an Aces game and also another partial game for LA. RJ certainly belongs on the court at that level, she looks smooth as ever shooting and creating her shot. I will likely tune in for some other games now that I have wet my whistle just a bit. I have not seen the fever play yet but have looked at their box scores, I’m not sure why Boston isn’t playing better tbh, maybe she is not as good as I thought she was, I don’t know. It’s early in her career. From box scores it sure looks like Reese belongs at this level. Anyway, I got interested in some WNBA all time stats and looked this up….I learned some stuff….

All Time Leaders

The all time official leaders for the NBA.
stats.wnba.com stats.wnba.com
 
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