23 Class

[Jackcrevol]

If this wasn’t intentional, you may have just added a new word to the VN lexicon. Love it!

perineal - a part of the inner ear that only hears Vol related puns.

Also, an urnge flurr that comes back once't a yurr.

 

[THEONLYTENISEE]

How many times does this have to be said?!

CURRENT YEAR RESULTS DON'T HAVE MUCH EFFECT ON CURRENT YEAR RECRUITS.

Recruiting experts have drummed this into our brains for years ffs.

The effect is in future years.

Current year will help with transfer portal.

 

[SockeyeVol]

Ok. Who’d you rather be now, A&M or UT?

Logical fallacy. "False Choice."

 

[overseasorange2]

For those that follow recruiting more, it doesn’t seem like our success is having much effect on the 23 class. Honestly, it doesn’t concern me because of our culture and coaching, but should we more an uptick in talent in the 24 class ?

I was thinking the same thing last week.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Currently we sit at #12. We are going to need some help to get into the top 10. I really hate seeing UF ahead of us. Especially seeing their season v ours.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Ok. Who’d you rather be now, A&M or UT?

TAMU signing class is an anomaly. Why not use Bama or UGA as examples?

 

[GVol1966]

TAMU signing class is an anomaly. Why not use Bama or UGA as examples?

Because that’s my point!
Ratings don’t = success all by themselves
A lot of factors go into it.
To many want to live and die on rankings.
Like 6th = mediocrity and 3rd =Automatic success

 

[GVol1966]

TAMU signing class is an anomaly. Why not use Bama or UGA as examples?

Also I guess I could use BAMA!
They been top 3 for about 10 years straight
And yet lost to UT, LSU and could of easily lost 2 more.

 

[tn4elvis]

I’m not sure ratings are the Gospel. Look at A&M. They had the best class ever, but it’s full of kids going after NIL money. I would rather have good athletes (which we have in this class), that buy in, and are coachable. This staff has the ability to make kids better unlike the last few.

A&M s class are still 18 &19 year olds playing against grown men. You can’t judge a recruiting class by the first year they are on campus. To be successful you need to stack top five classes multiple years and develop them

 

[MarcoVol]

A&M s class are still 18 &19 year olds playing against grown men. You can’t judge a recruiting class by the first year they are on campus. To be successful you need to stack top five classes multiple years and develop them

When 3 of the players from the class have been suspended multiple times in Y1 + another player from the class has been suspended once + the crap on-field product, I’d say you can apply a little more judgement to a class their first year on campus.

 

[loggervol]

The thing about coach H, he’s not just taking kids based on recruiting services. I think he’s taking them on fit within the program. He’s done the same thing with the transfer portal. I think he takes fit and cohesiveness into consideration.

 

[valoisvol]

Obviously TN, but they just showed a stat during the A'M/Fla game and Tex A'M has played 22 true FR and 13 have started. They did come within a few yds of beating Ala. When you play that many True FR and have had to start games with your 3rd String QB you will struggle. Not defending A'M but it is what it is. Hopefully we won't ever be in that position, but we definitely have gone thru the same thing.

Jimbo has already conceded the season that’s the only reason he is playing freshman so he can have an excuse when he loses because he certainly sucks as a coach

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I’m not sure ratings are the Gospel. Look at A&M. They had the best class ever, but it’s full of kids going after NIL money. I would rather have good athletes (which we have in this class), that buy in, and are coachable. This staff has the ability to make kids better unlike the last few.

Ratings are the most accurate predictor of success. There are a few posters in here that will disagree but the actual data proves them wrong. The teams with the most highly rated players win at the highest level more often.

Having good atheketes that buy in and are coach able are great but that’s not enough to win national championships.

 

[tn4elvis]

When 3 of the players from the class have been suspended multiple times in Y1 + another player from the class has been suspended once + the crap on-field product, I’d say you can apply a little more judgement to a class their first year on campus.

They are still immature kids who are not ready to really help a lot with on field production. The key is being able to keep them together and stack multiple great classes on top of that

 

[volbound1700]

Ratings are the most accurate predictor of success. There are a few posters in here that will disagree but the actual data proves them wrong. The teams with the most highly rated players win at the highest level more often.

Having good atheketes that buy in and are coach able are great but that’s not enough to win national championships.

Yeah, the problem is this all started with Saban. Prior to Saban, the classes were not that drastically different from 1-15 or so. However, since he came along and just started stacking the best classes in CFB right away (part of the reason Alabama turned it around quick and won 5 National Titles), other programs have had to stack to make it work.

1-5 or sometimes even 1-3 are a mile away from the next teams in the ratings when it comes to picking up Blue Chips.

For example, Alabama has 21 4 stars committed according to rivals, Tennessee only ha 10 4 stars. Even if some are a bust, Alabama can fill it in. Georgia is doing the same thing and it showed yesterday.

If you are not doing that, you can have years here and there with success but you cannot consistently compete.

Right now, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, and usually 2-3 other teams are sucking up all the talent.

 

[robbymoore94]

Ratings are the most accurate predictor of success. There are a few posters in here that will disagree but the actual data proves them wrong. The teams with the most highly rated players win at the highest level more often.

Having good atheketes that buy in and are coach able are great but that’s not enough to win national championships.

I’m not saying you can win a Natty or have sustained success with them. The ratings do have their place. However, they don’t always tell the entire story. That was my point.

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

I think it is critical for Tn to be at least a 10-2 next season. We want Tn to come back to be a perineal power house team., not just a one year wonder. We have the attention of the 24 and 25 class, but to build a sustainable future we need to demonstrate that it is going to be there in the future. 3 good recruiting seasons are necessary to build the kind of depth to be able to sustain the kind of quality we will need to “ be back”. To get those recruits you have to perform on the field over that span of time.
I think this coach can make this happen. I’ll let myself out!

10-2 would be an absolute miracle next year with the amount of production we have leaving this season. 8-4/9-3 is the most likely scenario next season

 

[CNeagleVolFan]

10-2 would be an absolute miracle next year with the amount of production we have leaving this season. 8-4/9-3 is the most likely scenario next season

I agree that should be the goal. 8-4 or 9-3 but with a lot of the good players we have coming back and possible Covid years more guys could use it could be another surprise season. Our defense will take a step going into next season. Banks and Beasley could both take a Covid year and return to try and have another good season next year! I also am very optimistic about Joe Milton being our QB next year. 3rd year in a system and he’s shown to be a very good leader staying here and being humble learning behind Hendo. He may not be the same level of Hendo, but I think he will be solid. Also, we return our RBs and maybe get another good one in here from the portal. Ramel Keyton can take a Covid year and be a feature receiver next to Bru McCoy next season. I’m excited about the future of this program! 9-3 should be the expectation next year, but if things fall a certain way it could be even better who knows! I’m just excited about all the possibilities!

 

[Cartervol]

Yeah, the problem is this all started with Saban. Prior to Saban, the classes were not that drastically different from 1-15 or so. However, since he came along and just started stacking the best classes in CFB right away (part of the reason Alabama turned it around quick and won 5 National Titles), other programs have had to stack to make it work.

1-5 or sometimes even 1-3 are a mile away from the next teams in the ratings when it comes to picking up Blue Chips.

For example, Alabama has 21 4 stars committed according to rivals, Tennessee only ha 10 4 stars. Even if some are a bust, Alabama can fill it in. Georgia is doing the same thing and it showed yesterday.

If you are not doing that, you can have years here and there with success but you cannot consistently compete.

Right now, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, and usually 2-3 other teams are sucking up all the talent.

An have been forever..

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

10-2 would be an absolute miracle next year with the amount of production we have leaving this season. 8-4/9-3 is the most likely scenario next season

We play crappy TX AM and Virginia. 9-3 is the floor

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

We play crappy TX AM and Virginia. 9-3 is the floor

Florida at Florida will be no gimmie neither will A&M and Kentucky. I think people forget just how mediocre our offense was prior to Hooker taking over. People will be calling for Tayven or Nico by halftime of the Florida game

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Logical fallacy. "False Choice."

Yes. Technically it contains at least 2 logical fallacies..."false dichotomy "and "excluded middle." More could be applied, but it would be a stretch IMO.

Also...the "perineal" taint "perennial " is absolutely hilarious. Now joins the VN Hall of Fame/Shame along with Pre-madonna, Pocket Presents, Escape Goat, Reeking Havoc et al.

What do I know though? Just a Blue Collar Skoller, after all. GBO VFL WGWTFA

 

[marcusluvsvols]

@McDad. Check this New Edition to our VN vernacular....lmao

 

[TrippieRedd]

Virginia - W
Peay - W
Florida - L
UTSA - W
Carolina - W
A&M - W (Haynes King is trash)
Bama - L
Kentucky - W
UCONN - W
Mizz - W
UGA - L
Vandy - W

9-3

QB - Milton
RB - Small, Wright, Sampson, Transfer
WR - Bru, Squirrel, Ramel/Merrill
TE - Ethan Davis
OL - Crawford, Lampley/Nichols, Nichols, Mays, Spraggins, Mincey/Transfer

DL - Baron, OT, Simmons, Eason, West, Phillips, Bailey, Terry, Harrison, Josephs, Pierce
LB - Beasley, Transfer
CB - Hadden, Slaughter, Rucker, Turnage, Dee Williams,
S - Turrentine, Charles, Thomas

+ our recruiting class

I can see us going after transfer OL, LB, RB and Secondary.

 

[Wokepack]

Virginia - W
Peay - W
Florida - L
UTSA - W
Carolina - W
A&M - W (Haynes King is trash)
Bama - L
Kentucky - W
UCONN - W
Mizz - W
UGA - L
Vandy - W

9-3

QB - Milton
RB - Small, Wright, Sampson, Transfer
WR - Bru, Squirrel, Ramel/Merrill
TE - Ethan Davis
OL - Crawford, Lampley/Nichols, Nichols, Mays, Spraggins, Mincey/Transfer

DL - Baron, OT, Simmons, Eason, West, Phillips, Bailey, Terry, Harrison, Josephs, Pierce
LB - Beasley, Transfer
CB - Hadden, Slaughter, Rucker, Turnage, Dee Williams,
S - Turrentine, Charles, Thomas

+ our recruiting class

I can see us going after transfer OL, LB, RB and Secondary.

Don't be surprised if we get a big time WR through the portal. I know someone is licking their chops at possibly getting to be a part of this offense.