32-hour workweek bill reintroduced in Congress

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hog88 said:
There will be many different reactions depending on the type of industry. Some will cut everyone to 32hrs and hire more people or have exempt employees cover the slack. Others will just pay the overtime starting at 32 hrs.

We'll just pay the OT and charge it back to the customers.
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Ttucke11 said:
I agree. It's a weird complex some people have. Congrats you worked 70 hours last week, I enjoyed seeing my wife and daughter more.
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Same..... I understand that there's those out there that have to work long hours to support their family. There's also the workaholics that live to work ,and that's their entire life... More power to you if that's the case.I work to live so I can enjoy my time with my loved ones. No amount of money is going to change that for me. I don't know about enforcing a proposed bill on it though.
 
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My former company was forced by union contract to pay overtime for any hours over 8 in a day no matter how many hours they worked in a week. It fostered a culture among some people of only working 2 days a week that would work two 16 hour days and call in sick the rest of the week. They could show up for 2 days, work 32 and get paid for 48 hours.
 
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LouderVol said:
there is no way that last one would slide. You would have to put a max earning on both sides of that equation.

Otherwise I am renegotiating to have a full time salary job that pays me 100 bucks. and then I have a second job that pays my actual salary.
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Easy fix. Require F/T work, then give tax free earnings on the part time hours at whichever is the lower wage.

Boom!
 
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VolStrom said:
If you work 32 hours, why would you get paid for 40?
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You wouldn't. Thats my point. Who in hell would be willing to take a cut in pay? Also, if youre not a full 40 hours, are you no longer considered full time? How would that affect employee benefits? Would employers no longer make benefits available to these people? That seems like a bad idea. Who in their right minds would agree to that?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Id love to work 32 hours. I also see nothing to be proud of by working your life away. No way to live imo. Does that make me lazy? Don't really care. There's more to life than working.
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This. I decided a long time ago that I work to live. I don't live to work. I saw the guys in my field taking jobs where they had to pay dues working 60 hr weeks and I was out. I've done that for a couple months when a job called for It in the moment, but that's no way to live your life (unless it's what you like. I like balance), IMO.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This. I decided a long time ago that I work to live. I don't live to work. I saw the guys in my field taking jobs where they had to pay dues working 60 hr weeks and I was out. I've done that for a couple months when a job called for It in the moment, but that's no way to live your life (unless it's what you like. I like balance), IMO.
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Let me guess, if you work 32 hours a week you still expect full benefits, healthcare, 401k match, sick leave etc. for working 20% less? What if your company cut all of your benefits by 20% in trade for a 32 hour work week.
 
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VolStrom said:
Let me guess, if you work 32 hours a week you still expect full benefits, healthcare, 401k match, sick leave etc. for working 20% less? What if your company cut all of your benefits by 20% in trade for a 32 hour work week.
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Why do you care what I negotiate?

They're already under-paying me, which is part of how I talked them into allowing me a 4-day work week. Now I don't have to pay a nanny on Fridays. It's like getting a $5k raise to spend more time with my kids.
 
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LouderVol said:
Eh, its not lazyness. Several studies have shown that production stays up, and down time goes down. Ends up saving the company money. the 5/40 has never been based on anything solid that says "this is best".

I am against forcing it, but wouldn't mind the government offering some type of tax incentive for it.
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That’s why some people work 6-7 days a week. Then there’s the 4-10 schedule. Some companies do a 3-12s weekend shift and pay for 40. If the government wants to do something worthwhile do away with tax on overtime. Many people wouldn’t be able to survive on 32 hours a week unless they adjusted wages and that ain’t happening.
 
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I don't really think this has anything to do with lazy. If a company can get things done with less hours and/or less days, that's their decision.

This is the government trying to fix something that isn't broke.

It's a distraction from the border, inflation, funding Ukraine, etc.

Again if companies want to go this route, that's great, but the government has no business getting involved with this sort of thing. No pun intended.
 
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C-south said:
That’s why some people work 6-7 days a week. Then there’s the 4-10 schedule. Some companies do a 3-12s weekend shift and pay for 40. If the government wants to do something worthwhile do away with tax on overtime. Many people wouldn’t be able to survive on 32 hours a week unless they adjusted wages and that ain’t happening.
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Brandon is adjusting wages for errybody. Each year your money is worth 5+% less.
 
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I fail to see how this is a good thing if you are looking at big picture.

Manufacturing and construction will likely be hit hardest by this, at a time when they are having difficulty meeting demand, and when they are also having difficulty finding employees to work. If they are forced to pay overtime at 32 hours instead of 40, then that will increase the cost of goods, further contributing to inflation.

Also, do you really think that companies are going to bump hourly wages up 20% because their employees are working 20% less hours? This could potentially mean the average joe working a hourly manufacturing job would make 20% less a week when its becoming increasingly difficult to make ends meet because of inflation.

Then there is the question of how most companies are structured when it comes to their overhead. Their overhead/burden etc. are generally spread either amongst direct labor hours (like in construction) or goods and services. You reduce the hours worked, or reduce the amount of goods/services produced, that the overhead is distributed amongst, then you are increasing the cost of goods and services.

This is really a bad idea, and while it may be great for you personally to work 32 hours a week, it has the potential to further wreck the economy.
 
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volfanhill said:
It's a screw the hourly worker bill. This would force companies to pay overtime after 32 hours instead of 40. So instead of getting that 40 hours a week you will get 32. I will hire more people to make sure I don't pay overtime.
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Can you hire me for like 2-3 hours a week, but pay me for 100? You'll get my best 2-3 hours possible.
 
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VolStrom said:
If you work 32 hours, why would you get paid for 40?
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Politicians (and dims especially) have a hard time with reality. Most have no clue about when the cost of inputs (including labor) increase, the cost of the product also increases. They definitely can't connect the dots behind increased labor costs without a matching productivity increase is inflationary. Can't say I completely blame them when nobody seems to correlate speculation in commodities like energy results in higher fuel costs that lead to reduced sales due to higher prices and general inflation among other negatives. The whole economy is a closed system; you can't screw with one thing and not affect others. Someday perhaps we will be smart enough to realize "investment" with out actually investing is a detriment to the economy ... not holding my breath, though.
 
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volfanhill said:
It's a screw the hourly worker bill. This would force companies to pay overtime after 32 hours instead of 40. So instead of getting that 40 hours a week you will get 32. I will hire more people to make sure I don't pay overtime.
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That would also increase your cost, as you would then have to provide insurance, PTO, etc. for those employees as well.

I can't state enough how bad of an idea this is.
 
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n_huffhines said:
100% this.

I would guess the large majority of salaried employees who work five 8's can go to four 8's or 9's without losing productivity. I only work Monday thru Thursday. Thursday is my new Friday, meaning I need to bust ass Wednesday afternoon and all day Thursday so I can log off for the weekend.
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Ok so salaried employees get an extra day at home but what about the non salary employees? My job would essentially be cut to 32 hours/week, as would the majority of hourly jobs. I can barely afford groceries, daycare, bills, etc as is. So now I have to go out and find a part time job.
 
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