50-50 chance of catastrophic radiation leak?

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#102
With just 50 guys and the number of problems and the limited time the guys working can be exposed. I don't see the systems getting put back online.
 
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govols1864 said:
Also one thing I wonder about is the workers. How much can they physically take?? You know they aren't sleeping and there are problems with all 6 plants. They are running around a big area trying to solve all these issues. How much food and water do they have and how much radiation have they already been exposed to??
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Very valid concerns.
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Volst53 said:
I know that lol. I have a Tennessee Tech degree. I'm sure they have smarter minds than mine on it. I was just wondering about the system of getting the water there and the amount they could dump on it.
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So do I...I'm pretty happy with mine :)

Volatile's answer to your question was pretty much on point.
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govols1864 said:
No matter what happens I hope these men and women get the honor and respect that they deserve. They are heros and know they will die from this.
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We don't know what the levels are, lethal doses are a definite possibility but are not a certainty at this point. It is, unfortunately, a very real possibility, though. Their courage and sense of duty is striking.
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So the steady stream of smoke/steam that has been billowing from reactor 3 is believed to be from the spent fuel pool. This pool (if not the general collection pool, whose location I am uncertain of) should contain significantly less fuel that reactor 4's pool; however, it still contains enough to be a very big problem. Understanding the extent of the problem there would be very helpful to assessing just how bad it is on the ground.

If we are being told everything, then there are reasons to be somewhat optimistic. There have been no reports of total coolant stoppage and no reports of stuck vents. The radioactivity numbers that they are talking about are alerting, but not ridiculously high at the plant. If we aren't being lied to, these signs suggest that the strategy of trying to buy more time for cold shutdown is working.

However, I'm not convinced that the operator is being completely informative here. So, who knows.
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#109
We are not being told everything. They don't want to cause panic while evacuating. They also don't want to look stupid by saying the worst and then that not happening

Obama is MIA as usual. We seriously need to start planning on shutting down plants in fault zones similar to the stricken plant because engineering them for a 7.5 quake isnt good enough. The lost power should be replaced by nat gas
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#113
I also wonder if the ocean will be about to dilute it to safe levels, or will it be to much for it to handle once it gets in the water.
 
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#114
Here is a good read on keeping things in perspective.

Time to stop nuke hysteria | Herald Sun

I think that the article discounts the risk of other types of fires carrying radioactive material away fromthe site, but it truly seems that it would take such a worst case scenario for northern japan, east Russia, east china, etc. to become so contaminated that severe health consequences would result for all those in the area.
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myrobbins7 said:
Wonder what the levels will be when it hits the US.? Wind to blow towards Pacific from quake-hit Japan plant - Yahoo! News
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At this point, it won't surprise me if we see levels climb over the next week. However, I currently have no reason to think that levels will be high enough to warrant concern. Data could change, but the available numbers just don't bare that out right now.

IMO, if wind shifts to out of the north or east, and the spent fuel pools cannot be cooled, that may be the worst case. There would be steam and smoke to carry very harmful materials to high populations that aren't that far away.

I am still very worried about meltdown and breach (to some degree) at reactors 1-3, but the release from that (if not an explosive event) would likely be less than from the spent fuel ponds.
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Volst53 said:
I also wonder if the ocean will be about to dilute it to safe levels, or will it be to much for it to handle once it gets in the water.
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At the levels we are seeing now, and any that I are conceivable to me in the near future, there would be significant dilution. There could be some sort of bioavcumulation at play, but there isn't going to be highly radioactive water.
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#119
Wish I had a supply of KI, I'd be rolling in the money right now just selling to people who are freaking out here in the US. The media is sensationalizing everything right now.
 
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VOLatile said:
Wish I had a supply of KI, I'd be rolling in the money right now just selling to people who are freaking out here in the US. The media is sensationalizing everything right now.
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Yea right, they are under-reporting it

The situation is out of control
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Yea right, they are under-reporting it

The situation is out of control
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I believe there is no doubt this is the case, although I fear Tepco has much to do with that. Being reported the PM just burst into Tepco demanding to know "What the hell is going on." I haven't done so yet, but it turns out Tepco has been extremely mendacious in the past regarding safety at its plants, which just shows the shocking lengths Capital will go. If the Japanese are going to be mendacious with nuclear safety, there is no clearer indication nuclear power should be suspended until the Revolution.

I will be surprised if the West Coast has to worry about this problem. However, the Japanese are on a collision course with a Zone of Alienation. That's about as heavy as it gets.
 
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#123
I was shocked to see, them using the forrest fire method this morning when I woke up. Did the dropping of water from a chopper help at all?
 
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Volst53 said:
I was shocked to see, them using the forrest fire method this morning when I woke up. Did the dropping of water from a chopper help at all?
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I've been wondering how they would do it without the choppers, actually. Having said that, I'm as worried about the spent fuel pools as the reactors.
 
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Volst53 said:
I was shocked to see, them using the forrest fire method this morning when I woke up. Did the dropping of water from a chopper help at all?
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The information is too fractured right now to know if it worked, is working, or if they even are doing it at the moment.
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