7th in AP Poll

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BowlBrother85 said:
You are right ... it doesn't change the fact that Alabama doesn't have any wins over teams which are currently ranked. They lost to the two best teams they played. Tennessee was one of them.
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I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but I'll tell you this - the team that Georgia fears most, and the only team with a shot of beating them in the playoff is Alabama. They'll crush any combination of Michigan, TCU, and USC, and would have crushed Ohio State. Alabama will always live in their minds as their main rival, and Alabama has the best player in the country playing QB.

I would have included us in the list of teams they'd rather not see if Hooker hadn't gotten hurt.
 
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mpfvol said:
I am almost the same but they beat no one that was real good and had REF help to beat Texas and A&M was a few yards from beating them at home also . If not for Young at QB they lose 4 games this year at UT kills them
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And what is UT without Hooker?
 
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sami said:
I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but I'll tell you this - the team that Georgia fears most, and the only team with a shot of beating them in the playoff is Alabama. They'll crush any combination of Michigan, TCU, and USC, and would have crushed Ohio State. Alabama will always live in their minds as their main rival, and Alabama has the best player in the country playing QB.

I would have included us in the list of teams they'd rather not see if Hooker hadn't gotten hurt.
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We won't get to see this, but at least as far this season is concerned ... I don't agree. Alabama has a suspect secondary and only an above average pass rush. I also think Michigan can match up better with Georgia this year. Georgia is the best team, and should win, however.
 
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Stephen Gray said:
What they should and should not focus on is subjective in the absence of guidance. You have what you factor as more important and others have other things.
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There's clear guidance in this case that isn't subjective. We defeated Alabama on the football field. Trying to apply selective reasoning beyond that fact is silly. It's why virtually every league in virtually every sport uses head to head results as their first tie breaker.
 
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C-south said:
There’s a reason Clemson has received zero respect from the polls all year. There’s a reason USCjr struggled in every game all year up until last week.
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They obviously got some respect they were #8 when they lost and this was after getting beat by 20+ by an unranked ND
 
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C-south said:
Maybe Bama should leave the SEC then since they only play weak competition.
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This was an unusually bad year for the SEC West. You have two traditionally strong teams (Auburn and Texas A&M) who had losing seasons and a 3rd (Arkansas) who finished 6-6. Ole Miss had a great start, but then crashed and burned at the end of the season. Mississippi State was their usual mediocre self.

I never said this was a typical year at all ... but the SEC West was pretty bad in 2022. If you can't see that, then you aren't looking.
 
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C-south said:
It matters if we have one loss each. It matters in conference tiebreakers. When you lose more than once it brings in a lot more than just head to head.
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So you're saying when it comes to rankings, head to head games don't matter if the teams have 2 losses?
 
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VolArmy74 said:
There's clear guidance in this case that isn't subjective. We defeated Alabama on the football field. Trying to apply selective reasoning beyond that fact is silly. It's why virtually every league in virtually every sport uses head to head results as their first tie breaker.
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Polls are on a national level. The committee selects on a national level. I’m sure 1 loss teams are ranked with head to head wins in mind. With multiple loss teams I’m sure a lot more is factored in. If we were in the sec west we would be playing in Atlanta due to head to head. It doesn’t mean much at the moment.
 
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Andy Pulley said:
So you're saying when it comes to rankings, head to head games don't matter if the teams have 2 losses?
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I’m saying 2 losses allows a lot more than head to head to be factored in. If we had lost to USCjr by 3 I would probably agree with us being ranked ahead. When you give up 60+ and lose by 20+ to a bad team you made your own bed.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
We won't get to see this, but at least as far this season is concerned ... I don't agree. Alabama has a suspect secondary and only an above average pass rush. I also think Michigan can match up better with Georgia this year. Georgia is the best team, and should win, however.
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Georgia will blow Michigan off the field the same way they did last year.

What you say about Bama might be true, but there are intangibles in play that no one but Alabama brings to the table, as well as the best player. If I was a Georgia fan (God forbid), they are the one team I'd want no part of.
 
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jaguinn5 said:
Take off your orange glasses and take into account that we lost two games that weren't close, and one of those losses was historically embarrassing.

Bama lost two very close, last second games to top 10 teams on the road.

They have a slightly better resume based on those losses.
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This is true, unfortunately. Many here refuse to see it, but it is still true.
 
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90 Vol said:
There’s no way to justify Bama being ranked ahead of us. None.
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Umm yeah there is. Both have two losses. Ours was a blowout to an unranked Carolina team late in the year. Our starting qb is out now as well. I hate Bama but they are a better team than us right now.
 
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Orange defense said:
This is bull crap! We should be 5. Ohio State should’ve fallen more, we should be ahead of Bama, and whoever else is up there.
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Media is always going to slurp on Ohio State given the opportunity. Just a fact. We have to take care of business during the season.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
There's clear guidance in this case that isn't subjective. We defeated Alabama on the football field. Trying to apply selective reasoning beyond that fact is silly. It's why virtually every league in virtually every sport uses head to head results as their first tie breaker.
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If there is please point me to it. I did see the CFP committee has stuff written down. The AP guidance I am unsure of.
 
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C-south said:
I’m saying 2 losses allows a lot more than head to head to be factored in. If we had lost to USCjr by 3 I would probably agree with us being ranked ahead. When you give up 60+ and lose by 20+ to a bad team you made your own bed.
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Head to head: Tennessee: 52-49

Common opponents:
Tennessee @ LSU W 40 -13
Alabama @ LSU L 31-32
Tennessee @ Vanderbilt W 56-0
Vanderbilt @ Alabama W 55-3

Tennessee Losses:
UGA 12-0
SC 8-4
Alabama Losses
Tennessee 10-2
LSU 9-3

Biggest Wins
Alabama:
30-6 vs Miss State (8-4)
30-24 @ Ole Miss (8-4)
20-19 @ Texas (8-4)
Tennessee:
52-49 vs Bama (10-2)
40-14 @ LSU (9-3)
34-27 @ Pitt (8-4)
 
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After we lost to UGA we had the absolute easiest path to get in imaginable. We blew it and have nobody to blame but ourselves. Who knows what really happened at SC but after that we have no argument to be ahead of any 1 or 2 loss team. You also have to take into account we don’t have Hooker because everyone else is.
 
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Andy Pulley said:
Head to head: Tennessee: 52-49

Common opponents:
Tennessee @ LSU W 40 -13
Alabama @ LSU L 31-32
Tennessee @ Vanderbilt W 56-0
Vanderbilt @ Alabama W 55-3

Tennessee Losses:
UGA 12-0
SC 8-4
Alabama Losses
Tennessee 10-2
LSU 9-3

Biggest Wins
Alabama:
30-6 vs Miss State (8-4)
30-24 @ Ole Miss (8-4)
20-19 @ Texas (8-4)
Tennessee:
52-49 vs Bama (10-2)
40-14 @ LSU (9-3)
34-27 @ Pitt (8-4)
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We actually beat LSU 40-13.🤣
 
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vollygirl said:
We opted out of a game. We are to blame and there's no other way to look at it. And you know this.
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Yeah I hate to say it but that was a horrible loss and you can't sweep it under a rug. I think they said last night that's the worst loss to an unranked team in history. If we take care of business last week we're in and No one can argue. But yeah we opted out and now we have to live with it.
 
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