9/11 Conspiracy Thread

This is a good one. Enjoy the science in this one

https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911nutphysics.htm

Not only does a cursory look at the collapse video show the time claims being made are significantly compressed, physics proves it's next to impossible.

Assuming perfect conditions with 0 drag (resistance as it's being called), Tower 2, for example, would fall in:

t = sqrt(2*1,362/32.174) = 9.2 seconds

It would require NOTHING to be under the top floor. No floors beneath it, no desks, no debris, no dust in the air, no air for that matter. We know that is not the case.

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Elapsed Time View of North Tower Collapse
 
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You're asking why, I'm trying to post information on those involved and the incentives why. But all that wants to be debated is how the damn towers fell. One person looked at one point made and determined . People make money off trades all the time. And then doesn't even want to hear the rest

You missed my point...even if one were to accept that "they" got planes in the air to hit the towers, which one could conceivably accomplish with minimal exposure, it makes no sense, at all, to then go and do all the other immensely complicated and risky convolusions that make up the rest of the conspiracy. It's tantamount to somebody saying instead of sneaking in an elite tactical team of operatives to do something we're going to sneak a carrier group and full air wing onto the site and just assume nobody will notice. Not only does this introduce a far, FAR greater probability of being discovered it's wholly unnecessary in accomplishing the intended goal.

I think the first and greatest fallacious assumption in the whole conspiracy is that it would be undertaken in the described manner.

Now, and I'm by NO means saying I necessarily believe this to be true, if you settle on the idea that people got wind of this coming and quashed it for the purpose of making use of what transpired you could at least make some sense of it all. Only a very small number of people in the know and the only "action" taken was to do nothing. Again, not saying it's true but to believe that at least you don't have to pound a square peg the size of Jupiter into a round hole the size of a pea.
 
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And add in Charlie Sheen's significant Hollywood expertise in the field of explosives, because you know, actors are always the best subject matter experts, and you have positive proof the government was behind it.

Well, in his defense he was in Platoon!
 
What about the video and link I posted? I'm gonna keep bringing it up until someone can prove it false, we could on till the end of time over the collapse

My apologies that I might have overlooked it in the clutter from every conspiracy theory site on the planet being posted by others.

Could you put it up again?
 
My apologies that I might have overlooked it in the clutter from every conspiracy theory site on the planet being posted by others.

Could you put it up again?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xgjxJwedA&feature=youtu.be

This website is pissing off. I'll get it in s min
 
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No offense, but I have the attention span of a goldfish when it comes to hour plus videos I'm not highly interested in.

Can you paraphrase or point me towards the relevant times in the videos?

The second one was not what I thought it was. The first one is about money behind and the scenes and what was going on with a lot of people directly involved with businesses hit where the planes impacted. If you don't want to watch the information don't sit here and tell it's all just a fantasy la la belief of you wont take an hour of time to listen to some one who has done extraordinant amount of research. And not one minute is wasted talking about how the buildings fell.


Edit: sorry I didn't see the point me in the direction of times comment. After the little intro in the first one it is full of info and moves along rather well. There really isn't specific points to reference
 
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If 'they' were going to purposely bring these buildings down via explosion, wouldn't it be nuts to do it in such a manner as they did? I mean, why wouldn't you use asymmetric charges so as to topple rather than implode the buildings making the event much more tragic? They could have taken out 1/3rd of lower Manhattan and the loss of life would have been a much bigger selling point.
 
My response to those who mock me for believing a cover up (debate is fine) is this:

"If a plane hit the pentagon, show me the plane. Show me steele turbines, show me a report of the plane that supposedly hit it, when it left, where it came from, when it was suspected or reportedly taken over. Last but certainly not least, show me a video tape of a large aircraft smashing the side of a government building. You won't convince me the only surveillance close enough was one camera that looked ground level."

Where was the grass tore up from the plane skidding into the building? (Maybe it didn't hit the ground first)

So it flew through the upper portion and into the middle of the building? (Well no, the picture doesn't have the damage all the way through).

So, some terrorist flew this plane at an angle and enormous rate of speed into a government building that could only show one angle of surveillance, which didn't include any semblance of a massive plane, and these people manage to not hit the grass on the way in?

Right, wrong, or indifferent that's usually my beef. I don't squander too much over the NY details, because if it was anything other than a true planned terrorist attack, the truth about the Pentagon would prove or disprove it all.

You may have already seen this posted in 14 years thread, but pretty compelling simulation / recreation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8[/youtube]
 
So you take a bunch of uneducated people that very likely have never heard a true explosion before and believe they heard "explosions" on 9/11 and combine it with your conspiracy theories and voila, you have the indisputable proof the buildings were brought down by the government.

And add in Charlie Sheen's significant Hollywood expertise in the field of explosives, because you know, actors are always the best subject matter experts, and you have positive proof the government was behind it.

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You may have already seen this posted in 14 years thread, but pretty compelling simulation / recreation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8[/youtube]

It was witnessss by hundreds of people, as the traffic around the I-395 / 110 / Washington Blvd. interchanges was much worse than usual. It went over them about 50 feet off the ground.
 
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It was witnessss by hundreds of people, as the traffic around the I-395 / 110 / Washington Blvd. interchanges was much worse than usual. It went over them about 50 feet off the ground.

Got links to these hundreds of people?
 
It was witnessss by hundreds of people, as the traffic around the I-395 / 110 / Washington Blvd. interchanges was much worse than usual. It went over them about 50 feet off the ground.

From the most secured building in the U.S. you would think that there would be more footage. Why were all the sensors turned off that day except one, the only one with footage?
 
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So you care to discuss the expertise of those claiming to hear explosions?

And also, would you like to discuss what makes Charlie Sheen a demolition expert? I mean, other than demolishing his own character?

I've tried discussing with the few that have any retorts. You have nothing but lame cracks....never do!

Bring some substance for once...
 
I've tried discussing with the few that have any retorts. You have nothing but lame cracks....never do!

Bring some substance for once...

You dont have discussions.

You post links to whack job sites and then call anyone a sheep who disagrees with you.

When substance is provided, you ignore it and post another link. It's like trying to converse with a toddler.
 
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You dont have discussions.

You post links to whack job sites and then call anyone a sheep who disagrees with you.

When substance is provided, you ignore it and post another link. It's like trying to converse with a toddler.

Of course! You deny anything and everything that shows a perspective different than yours and George w's.

You have yet to combat the obvious explosions in wtc 7.

https://youtu.be/9EXb9LMeizA
 

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