9/11 Conspiracy Thread

#601
#601
bamawriter said:
I still don't understand the theory:

If the government was willing to use planes as a false front in NYC, and they were always going to claim that planes hit the Pentagon and the field in PA, why wouldn't they actually hit those targets with planes along with the missle or whatever? If you are going to use planes as an excuse in 4 situations where the planes aren't actually the cause of the disaster, why would you only take the step to crash planes at only 2 of the 4 sites?

It makes absolutely no sense at all.
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Seems to have worked, I think the plane in PA was shot down. So only one instance where a plane wasn't used and guess what, you guys are eating it up as the truth so I guess it worked.

Ands it's funny how when I asked to that even if it was a plane, what about the rest of points on the who and why?
No debunker wants to argue that, why so?
 
#605
#605
Grand Vol said:
Can't counter the argument that somehow the largest terrorist attack in history was orchestrated and implemented by the US Government in complete secrecy for goals that are not so clear?

And furthermore the individuals involved, likely numbering in the thousands, have kept quiet about it this long?

Additionally, you place your faith in the science of snow thinking somehow that is directly comparable to the unique design of that building?

And you still avoid the big question as to "why."

Yet you continue to stand by two YouTube videos and won't point out the applicable sections nor offer any arguments against the direct questions posted here by others. My applause to you for the masterful troll job you've implemented here.
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Science doesn't lie....people do.
 
#606
#606
Pacer92 said:
Because it would be impossible to make a precision strike that took out the Pentagon budget department with an airplane. But, obviously a missile wouldn't fit the narrative.

This was a blatant missile strike guys. The most videotaped, heavily guarded place in the world and they give us a cloudy tape of a UFO.

Multiple witnesses saying there were no bodies, no seats, no luggage at the crash site...
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But, if you are going to crash planes into the towers to cover up a controlled demolition, why wouldn't you crash a plane to cover up a missle strike? And if you are going to claim that a plane crashed in a field before it could hit its target, why wouldn't you crash a plane into a field?

I'm sorry, that just makes no sense at all. It's the worst attempt at a coverup ever. It would make Watergate seem flawless.
 
#607
#607
OrangeWayOfLife said:
Seems to have worked, I think the plane in PA was shot down. So only one instance where a plane wasn't used and guess what, you guys are eating it up as the truth so I guess it worked.

Ands it's funny how when I asked to that even if it was a plane, what about the rest of points on the who and why?
No debunker wants to argue that, why so?
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But why wouldn't you fly a plane into the Pentagon. Why? There has to be a reason.
 
#609
#609
Pacer92 said:
Science doesn't lie....people do.
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Ah, so all these videos you are posting are done by...whom?

All the additional scientists, engineers and other subject matter experts that have come forward are...wrong?

Alex Jones and others are right? Or are they just using you for their own financial gain and posting the most outlandish tales they can as click bait?
 
#610
#610
bamawriter said:
But, if you are going to crash planes into the towers to cover up a controlled demolition, why wouldn't you crash a plane to cover up a missle strike? And if you are going to claim that a plane crashed in a field before it could hit its target, why wouldn't you crash a plane into a field?

I'm sorry, that just makes no sense at all. It's the worst attempt at a coverup ever. It would make Watergate seem flawless.
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I don't see evidence of a plane crash in shanksville. There is no debris field. No burning of grass. No bodies strewn all over. None of this is there..
 
#611
#611
OrangeWayOfLife said:
So the wings fell off prior to making contact with the building and yet it was still able to hit its target and penetrate so deep it disappeared out of sight from those outside? How long after the crash was it before the press was allowed in the area?

But look, we could take out that I said it wasn't a plane and say it was a plane for kicks and giggles. What about the rest of the points I made and have made mention to? Why is it debunkers only fixate on the how and nothing about the who and why? You completely ignore my other points and facts I've pointed out but the only thing you guys can debate is what happened with the planes. That's only a small part of the complete story
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Bump for second paragraph, anybody?
 
#612
#612
OrangeWayOfLife said:
So the wings fell off prior to making contact with the building and yet it was still able to hit its target and penetrate so deep it disappeared out of sight from those outside? How long after the crash was it before the press was allowed in the area?

But look, we could take out that I said it wasn't a plane and say it was a plane for kicks and giggles. What about the rest of the points I made and have made mention to? Why is it debunkers only fixate on the how and nothing about the who and why? You completely ignore my other points and facts I've pointed out but the only thing you guys can debate is what happened with the planes. That's only a small part of the complete story
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Who said the wings fell off before the aircraft entered the building? Did they supposedly shear off and land outside?
 
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#613
#613
Pacer92 said:
I've already posted this once...

https://youtu.be/EIy9hjB3DGk
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Thanks for providing.

So to recap:

1 person who had their back turned when impact happened, didn't see plane parts when leaving the building.

Are you saying because she didn't see something, it didn't happen?

What about the list of people who saw the plane fly into the building and aftermath who state it was a plane?
 
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#614
#614
Pacer92 said:
I don't see evidence of a plane crash in shanksville. There is no debris field. No burning of grass. No bodies strewn all over. None of this is there..
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I've already discussed that earlier. You're wrong.

But let's say you're right. Why would the government say that a plane scrashed in that field and not actually crash a plane in that field? They have already proven their willingness to crash a plane as a false front.

The question that must be answered: if not, why not?
 
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#616
bamawriter said:
I've already discussed that earlier. You're wrong.

But let's say you're right. Why would the government say that a plane scrashed in that field and not actually crash a plane in that field? They have already proven their willingness to crash a plane as a false front.

The question that must be answered: if not, why not?
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Not to mention, what did they do with the missing planes? If they weren't crashed, where are they?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Ah, so all these videos you are posting are done by...whom?

All the additional scientists, engineers and other subject matter experts that have come forward are...wrong?

Alex Jones and others are right? Or are they just using you for their own financial gain and posting the most outlandish tales they can as click bait?
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Click play and see. You're so brainwashed you can't fathom that anyone but the govt and their hand picked associates can be right. You won't even entertain the notion that YOUR govt could mislead you.

Keep blindly following....
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Also, you asked for the link of people who witnessed the aircraft fly over and impact the Pentagon.

I provided your link, but didn't see your follow up comment.
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Lmfao, how many times have asked you to address my points outside of that. If it was a plane it still doesn't change the who and why. You blatantly ignore that fact then try to pull a gotcha moment, get out of here with that. When you want to start discussing who and why I'm all ears. You debunkers have yet, over the past two days after I've given my facts and points, even mumbled a response. You want to stick to things you think you can debunk. You won't dare take the step into the who and why conversation. It's a moot point in the grand scheme of things the details of the how other than the fact these buildings got hit and destroyed. Now would you care to move on the why and who?
 
#622
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volfanngatorland said:
Thanks for providing.

So to recap:

1 person who had their back turned when impact happened, didn't see plane parts when leaving the building.

Are you saying because she didn't see something, it didn't happen?

What about the list of people who saw the plane fly into the building and aftermath who state it was a plane?
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No plane parts. No bodies. No luggage.

There are list on both sides that say they saw and didn't see. Do you think the govt isn't going to be prepared to have witnesses?

That's the narrative with conspiracy theorists. The govt tries to make them look insane when opposition presents something alternative. The general public as well. They've created a no win for any and every opposition to their agenda...
 
#624
#624
OrangeWayOfLife said:
Lmfao, how many times have asked you to address my points outside of that. If it was a plane it still doesn't change the who and why. You blatantly ignore that fact then try to pull a gotcha moment, get out of here with that. When you want to start discussing who and why I'm all ears. You debunkers have yet, over the past two days after I've given my facts and points, even mumbled a response. You want to stick to things you think you can debunk. You won't dare take the step into the who and why conversation. It's a moot point in the grand scheme of things the details of the how other than the fact these buildings got hit and destroyed. Now would you care to move on the why and who?
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I've looked back at your last 10 posts and they're all about the physical crash of the plane. Impact zone, debris, wings sheared off, etc.

You seem to be bringing up the how, not the who or why.

Wait, are you the guy who thinks the plane was directed at a certain floor in the WTC to take some kind of secret operation out? I can't remember if that was you
 
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