9/11 Conspiracy Thread

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LouderVol said:
thats a good point. if it followed the correct approach path to DCA I would say that the defense system would have to take that into consideration.
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Nope. All major airports like DCA are Class B airspace and require an operational Mode C transponder and clearance to enter. ATC would have known “something” was wrong with that aircraft but prior to 9/11 probably wasn’t really mentally prepared for how wrong it was.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nope. All major airports like DCA are Class B airspace and require an operational Mode C transponder and clearance to enter. ATC would have known “something” was wrong with that aircraft but prior to 9/11 probably wasn’t really mentally prepared for how wrong it was.
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I don't know the path the plane took vs the path it "should" have been taking to DCA.

my thinking was using the correct path until the last second would not leave any defense system a lot of time to adjust. especially when you have civilian planes possibly having to re-take off if they can't land properly. no idea how common that is, but I would say it would have to be taken into consideration.

I also would hope that any defense system is siting on passive and has to have a person approve it to go active. I am thinking that delay could make a huge difference.
 
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LouderVol said:
I don't know the path the plane took vs the path it "should" have been taking to DCA.

my thinking was using the correct path until the last second would not leave any defense system a lot of time to adjust. especially when you have civilian planes possibly having to re-take off if they can't land properly. no idea how common that is, but I would say it would have to be taken into consideration.

I also would hope that any defense system is siting on passive and has to have a person approve it to go active. I am thinking that delay could make a huge difference.
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I don’t remember the origin point for the Pentagon plane but even if he took off from DCA or IAD the aircraft would have been under positive control for any go around or heading deviations. Class B is strict. And stricter now of course.

No idea what specific defensive system is being referred to but I’m positive the National Airspace in DC is indeed heavily defended.

I’d just guess that prior to 9/11 the recognition and reaction time by ATC wasn’t prepared for that outcome. Just a guess though I’ll admit.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I don’t remember the origin point for the Pentagon plane but even if he took off from DCA or IAD the aircraft would have been under positive control for any go around or heading deviations. Class B is strict. And stricter now of course.

No idea what specific defensive system is being referred to but I’m positive the National Airspace in DC is indeed heavily defended.

I’d just guess that prior to 9/11 the recognition and reaction time by ATC wasn’t prepared for that outcome. Just a guess though I’ll admit.
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The plane originated out of IAD. They knew it likely hijacked because it was after the NYC planes.
I believe they scrambled jets once they relalized what was going on but the jets were not in the air at the time. By the time they took off it was too late. That my recollection of it.
 
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DC_Vol said:
The plane originated out of IAD. They knew it likely hijacked because it was after the NYC planes.
I believe they scrambled jets once they relalized what was going on but the jets were not in the air at the time. By the time they took off it was too late. That my recollection of it.
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Makes sense. Just didn’t seem real before 9/11.

I remember flying into DCA about two weeks after 9/11. We had an F-16 off our right wing during the entire final approach.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Makes sense. Just didn’t seem real before 9/11.

I remember flying into DCA about two weeks after 9/11. We had an F-16 off our right wing during the entire final approach.
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Yeah it was nuts. I remember driving down the 110 the following October and seeing on the side of the road, as I got closer to the pentagon, manned hummers with the big cannons on top. It didn’t feel like the US.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Yeah it was nuts. I remember driving down the 110 the following October and seeing on the side of the road, as I got closer to the pentagon, manned hummers with the big cannons on top. It didn’t feel like the US.
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Indeed. On that trip to DC I also remember some heavy hardware positioned inside and outside the beltway. Even saw some MANPADs on the hummer troops with just a Ma Duce on top. It did not feel very US at all and everybody was on edge.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Indeed. On that trip to DC I also remember some heavy hardware positioned inside and outside the beltway. Even saw some MANPADs on the hummer troops with just a Ma Duce on top. It did not feel very US at all and everybody was on edge.
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So we should just blindly believe the governments findings about 9/11 despite the huge amount of flaws in the NIST report? Also, why is asking questions about 9/11 automatically construed as conspiracy theories?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So we should just blindly believe the governments findings about 9/11 despite the huge amount of flaws in the NIST report? Also, why is asking questions about 9/11 automatically construed as conspiracy theories?
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Because others have discussed these things and people keep coming back to the same points with nothing new. If you did some research outside of truther websites you might learn something.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
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