9/11 Conspiracy Thread

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LouderVol said:
Because others have discussed these things and people keep coming back to the same points with nothing new. If you did some research outside of truther websites you might learn something.
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Ah I see, so the scientists on these websites are somehow wrong because you dont believe them and their research doesnt line up with what the official reports right? I guess you are good with whatever the government feeds you.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
This again. Every significant act in recorded history is accompanied by goofballs attempting to put forth conspiracy theories.
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If you are good with accepting everything the gov tells you, good on you, if the story stinks, i usually say so. To label people because they question the government, who have many many times covered up wrongdoing, is very shortsighted.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Siap

Very short video showing molten steel prior to WTC collapse

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I don't see steel on fire. That's windows between the concrete and there's no telling if that is desks or chairs sitting there burning. Either way when you have 30,000 gallons of kerosene released in an explosion everthing is going to burn.
 
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There had to clearly be bombs placed because how could a massive, multi-ton ton jet cause that kind of devastation? No way Jose.

Based on the overwhelming and clear evidence Pacer has presented, I can only conclude that this was a massive conspiracy within our government to hurt us all.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I don't see steel on fire. That's windows between the concrete and there's no telling if that is desks or chairs sitting there burning. Either way when you have 30,000 gallons of kerosene released in an explosion everthing is going to burn.
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Take a look at the gif above.

Watch the window opening on the top left.

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ajvol01 said:
Aren't you conveniently forgetting how long US troops have been deployed to Afghanistan?

Aren't you also conveniently forgetting the resulting legislation that reduced American citizens freedom due to fears stoked by the fires of the "war or terror"?

The patriot act was a key objective.
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
You think that is molten steel?
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What types of orange glowing liquids are you familiar with other than molten steel/iron?

I've never seen paper, wood, oil, gasoline, kerosene, plastic or anything else burn bright orange and flow / drip while being combusted.

Watch the video closely - you can see it dripping and flowing.

What do you think it is?
 
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ajvol01 said:
What types of orange glowing liquids are you familiar with other than molten steel/iron?

I've never seen paper, wood, oil, gasoline, kerosene, plastic or anything else burn bright orange and flow / drip while being combusted.

Watch the video closely - you can see it dripping and flowing.

What do you think it is?
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That’s not molten steel, sorry. Do you know in order to melt steel (to get your molten steel) you have to reach temperatures upwards of 2500 degrees?
 
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To clarify talking points here steel melts to “molten steel” above 2500 F while jet fuel only burns at a temperature of 1500 F. These are rough numbers but they are close. To increase that temperature you would need to take some action. Like adding oxygen via forced air to a forge when crafting steel.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
That’s not molten steel, sorry. Do you know in order to melt steel (to get your molten steel) you have to reach temperatures upwards of 2500 degrees?
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Yes, closer to 2700 F actually.

Did you know that thermite and micro spheres of iron were found in the dust at ground zero?

 
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ajvol01 said:
Yes, closer to 2700 F actually.

Did you know that thermite and micro spores of iron were found in the dust at ground zero?

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I just don't buy it. The building got so hot the steel started losing its structural support. This can happen to steel at the low temp of 797°F. With weight on it the steel will fail even faster.

If that plane would've hit the very top floor I don't think the building would have collapsed. With it hitting 3/4s of the way up there's alot of weight above where the heated steel started failing.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I just don't buy it. The building got so hot the steel started losing its structural support. This can happen to steel at the low temp of 797°F. With weight on it the steel will fail even faster.

If that plane would've hit the very top floor I don't think the building would have collapsed. With it hitting 3/4s of the way up there's alot of weight above where the heated steel started failing.
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Do you buy the eyewitness accounts of molten steel in the basement of ground zero?

If no, why not? It was widely reported.

If yes, how did it get there?

 
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ajvol01 said:
Do you buy the eyewitness accounts of molten steel in the basement of ground zero?

If no, why not? It was widely reported.

If yes, how did it get there?

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I have no problem with molten steel being there. I would find it hard to believe the temperature in that building didn't or couldn't reach 2750°F.

It shows kerosene can burn at 1500°F. You add in the contents of the bulding and I have no doubt the temp could hit 2750°F IMO.

The plane is built out of aluminum. Aluminum melts at 1200°F. You introduce water to it and it can set off explosions.
 
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