98 NC'ship team

[kidbourbon]

wow, this thread didn't really go the direction i was hoping.

 

[lawgator1]

If you check out LG's number of posts and how long he's been around, my guess is he realizes where he is... :blink:

Its Chicago and its raining....

wow, this thread didn't really go the direction i was hoping.

Blame me and hat. I sort of hijacked it early on and then hat ran off into his utterly inexplicable lovefest for the University of Miami and all hell broke loose when he did that.

 

[allvol]

if you didn't know the year, and what bowl they played in, i'd swear they had to win a national title that year...
they also beat LSU, Notre Dame and Syracuse that year...

Lots of names on the schedule, just turned out that ND and SYR weren't very good.

Syracuse finished the 2001 season with a 10-3 record.

Notre Dame finished the 2001 season with a 5-6 record after beginnning the season 0-3. Entering the game against Tennessee in South Bend, the Irish were only 2 weeks removed from beating USC 27-16, and had won 3-of-4 games.

 

[GVF]

I'll have to cast my lot with Lawgator. I've lived in Miami and been around the UM campus; and let me just say that I'd rather slam my finger in a car door at the top of every hour than be caught dead in that place.

Incidentally, if the old USSR were playing Miami, I would be in the stands with a hammer and sickle.

I've been through Texarkana several times. On both the Texas side and Arky side. I'd take my punishment going back to Miami.

 

[GVF]

No offense taken. I'm perfectly capable of defending myself.

Even if you can't, you'll go down swingin'. Eh?
:whistling:

 

[jakez4ut]

Syracuse finished the 2001 season with a 10-3 record.

Notre Dame finished the 2001 season with a 5-6 record after beginnning the season 0-3. Entering the game against Tennessee in South Bend, the Irish were only 2 weeks removed from beating USC 27-16, and had won 3-of-4 games.

either way, and i had no idea bout Syracuse's record...., with the names that were on scheudle that year, if i didn't know who the team was or what year or what bowl....that's a national championship looking schedule.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

I guess that I am too wedded to the traditional image of a university. You know, actual STUDENTS and alumni going to the games, as opposed to punk high school kids and gang members; oak tress, not poles for strippers; scaled down "super secret" places for great food, not Bennigan's; a student union, not a strip mall; dorms and fraternities, not seedy motels and detention centers.

Say what you will hat, the tell tale sign is that any high school kid in Florida who can choose amongst the three universities (UF, FSU, and UM) will put UM at the very bottom of that list.

I have to agree with LG on this one. I've had nightmares about moving to Miami. Also, has anyone noticed how many empty seats there are in the Orange Bowl during Miami games this season. That shows just what kind of fans the Canes have. One bad season and they have trouble filling that little stadium.

 

[hatvol96]

I have to agree with LG on this one. I've had nightmares about moving to Miami. Also, has anyone noticed how many empty seats there are in the Orange Bowl during Miami games this season. That shows just what kind of fans the Canes have. One bad season and they have trouble filling that little stadium.

Actually, it's an indication that Miami residents have lives and don't waste time or money watching mediocre football. There's a little more to do in Miami than say, Gainesville. As to your nightmare, there are no forced relocation programs in the US.

 

[lawgator1]

Actually, it's an indication that Miami residents have lives and don't waste time or money watching mediocre football. There's a little more to do in Miami than say, Gainesville. As to your nightmare, there are no forced relocation programs in the US.

Bear in mind that, if you do move to Miami, your car insurance is going to quadruple. And make sure to get the uninsured/underinsured coverage, too, because about a third of the people driving down there have no insurance at all.

Even hat will have to concede that.

 

[hatvol96]

Bear in mind that, if you do move to Miami, your car insurance is going to quadruple. And make sure to get the uninsured/underinsured coverage, too, because about a third of the people driving down there have no insurance at all.

Even hat will have to concede that.

If you're moving to Miami and have to worry about an increase in your car insurance, you won't be here long. You can't afford the city.

 

[orange+white=heaven]

If you're moving to Miami and have to worry about an increase in your car insurance, you won't be here long. You can't afford the city.

Yet another reinforcing argument for life here in the foothills...

 

[lawgator1]

If you're moving to Miami and have to worry about an increase in your car insurance, you won't be here long. You can't afford the city.

True, but I'm just saying that the level of crime, total irresponsibility, and even petty fraud down there is really alarming.

I represent law enforcement agencies and, although I don't do that particular kind of work, I often find myself at seminars dealing with forfeiture -- you know, guy selling drugs on the road they try to take his car.

The agencies I represent usually have an in-house lawyer that takes care of that, in addition to their myriad other responsibilities.

Miami has an entire TEAM of lawyers that do forfeiture and they write books about it for the rest of the state.

Yet another reinforcing argument for life here in the foothills...

Its not even that. Orlando, Tampa, these are all relatively large cities here in Florida. But I am telling you, Miami is a world unto itself and eventually its kill or be killed down there.

 

[hatvol96]

True, but I'm just saying that the level of crime, total irresponsibility, and even petty fraud down there is really alarming.

I represent law enforcement agencies and, although I don't do that particular kind of work, I often find myself at seminars dealing with forfeiture -- you know, guy selling drugs on the road they try to take his car.

The agencies I represent usually have an in-house lawyer that takes care of that, in addition to their myriad other responsibilities.

Miami has an entire TEAM of lawyers that do forfeiture and they write books about it for the rest of the state.





Its not even that. Orlando, Tampa, these are all relatively large cities here in Florida. But I am telling you, Miami is a world unto itself and eventually its kill or be killed down there.

That's because South Florida is the only part of the state with property worth seizing.

 

[lawgator1]

That's because South Florida is the only part of the state with property worth seizing.

Yeah, up here in Orlando (the land of Tiger Woods, Sergio, the Orlando Magic Players, most of the retired members of MLB, models, Big Citrus, and the I-4 tech corridor), its all buggies and horses.

 

[orange+white=heaven]

Yeah, up here in Orlando..... its all buggies and horses.

:lol:

 

[hatvol96]

Yeah, up here in Orlando (the land of Tiger Woods, Sergio, the Orlando Magic Players, most of the retired members of MLB, models, Big Citrus, and the I-4 tech corridor), its all buggies and horses.

Models? In Orlando? Only for KMart's Plus Size lines. Orlando, a city built around a cartoon Mouse. Enough said.

 

[hatvol96]

Yeah, up here in Orlando (the land of Tiger Woods, Sergio, the Orlando Magic Players, most of the retired members of MLB, models, Big Citrus, and the I-4 tech corridor), its all buggies and horses.

If Orlando is so great, why does every decent player the Magic have ever drafted get out of town as soon as they can?

 

[lawgator1]

Models? In Orlando? Only for KMart's Plus Size lines. Orlando, a city built around a cartoon Mouse. Enough said.

Town was built around citrus. I won't deny that tourism is by far the Number One industry here. But that's like saying that the only thing going for Miami is the weather.

Oh, wait. Bad example.

If Orlando is so great, why does every decent player the Magic have ever drafted get out of town as soon as they can?

First, I object to the form of your question as the Magic do not draft decent players. They waste top five picks on guys overseas they don't even bother to ask, "Would you move here?"

Second, every time a decent player comes here (by trade, court order, whatever) they leave because they quickly realize that management of the Magic stinks.

The only professional sports organization more mismanaged that the Orlando Tragic are the hapless Miami Dolphins who, for 15 years now, have been doomed to go anywhere from 7-9 to 10-6 and never get to the second round of the playoffs.

Both teams should be completely gutted and rebuilt from the ground up.

Wouldn't hurt to throw the Marlins in there, too.

 

[orange+white=heaven]

Just give me one of those beaches they shoot the Corona commercials at.... The rest of Florida, y'all can have.

 

[hatvol96]

Town was built around citrus. I won't deny that tourism is by far the Number One industry here. But that's like saying that the only thing going for Miami is the weather.

Oh, wait. Bad example.



First, I object to the form of your question as the Magic do not draft decent players. They waste top five picks on guys overseas they don't even bother to ask, "Would you move here?"

Second, every time a decent player comes here (by trade, court order, whatever) they leave because they quickly realize that management of the Magic stinks.

The only professional sports organization more mismanaged that the Orlando Tragic are the hapless Miami Dolphins who, for 15 years now, have been doomed to go anywhere from 7-9 to 10-6 and never get to the second round of the playoffs.

Both teams should be completely gutted and rebuilt from the ground up.

Wouldn't hurt to throw the Marlins in there, too.

You mean the Marlins, winners of two world championships in the last decade? Also, what would Orlando know about the NFL? The rubes there are wearing the knees out of their grass stained overalls praying for the return of the USFL or XFL.

 

[lawgator1]

You mean the Marlins, winners of two world championships in the last decade? Also, what would Orlando know about the NFL? The rubes there are wearing the knees out of their grass stained overalls praying for the return of the USFL or XFL.

Now you are fighting dirty.

The gloves come off...

1) The great players for the Marlins have all been traded for AA guys. Its like Gordon Gekko (different movie, but you get the idea) buying companies just to break them up.

2) Having a major league baseball team in South Florida play outside during July and August may be the single dumbest marketing decision EVER. They can't give away tickets to the 1 p.m. starts. People will take them, but only if you throw in a chest of ice, an airconditioner, a 50 ft square umbrella, and a gallon of Gatorade. Every half inning.

3) The rubes in Orlando don't have to care about any one NFL team. We've got the Jags 2 hours north, the Bucs two hours west, and the 'Fins 3.5 hours south. We just pick whichever one doesn't totally suck and root for them. Fair weathered? Bandwagon? Hell, yeah. But wouldn't you be if the only pro team in town was the Magic?

4) If you come to Orlando -- not Disney or Univeral -- but actual Orlando, let me know. I'll send you where real life is. And you won't need anything made out of Kevlar to go there, either.

 

[hatvol96]

Now you are fighting dirty.

The gloves come off...

1) The great players for the Marlins have all been traded for AA guys. Its like Gordon Gekko (different movie, but you get the idea) buying companies just to break them up.

2) Having a major league baseball team in South Florida play outside during July and August may be the single dumbest marketing decision EVER. They can't give away tickets to the 1 p.m. starts. People will take them, but only if you throw in a chest of ice, an airconditioner, a 50 ft square umbrella, and a gallon of Gatorade. Every half inning.

3) The rubes in Orlando don't have to care about any one NFL team. We've got the Jags 2 hours north, the Bucs two hours west, and the 'Fins 3.5 hours south. We just pick whichever one doesn't totally suck and root for them. Fair weathered? Bandwagon? Hell, yeah. But wouldn't you be if the only pro team in town was the Magic?

4) If you come to Orlando -- not Disney or Univeral -- but actual Orlando, let me know. I'll send you where real life is. And you won't need anything made out of Kevlar to go there, either.

The Marlins were into contention into the final week with all of those "AA" guys, who they have locked up at low salaries for three or four more years with a bountiful farm system backing them up.
The stadium issue will get resolved in the next couple of years or the team will move to Las Vegas. I consider that a win/win proposition.
I love seeing a resident of Plastic City admit the fans there are bandwagon jumping rubes.
I had the misfortune of going to Orlando for a convention a couple of years ago. In my comment card at the end of the convention, I made sure I explained that if the organization ever chose to place the annual meeting in Orlando again, they could immediately refund my dues and remove me from the mailing list. Orlando=Omaha with humidity.

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Now you are fighting dirty.

The gloves come off...

1) The great players for the Marlins have all been traded for AA guys. Its like Gordon Gekko (different movie, but you get the idea) buying companies just to break them up.

2) Having a major league baseball team in South Florida play outside during July and August may be the single dumbest marketing decision EVER. They can't give away tickets to the 1 p.m. starts. People will take them, but only if you throw in a chest of ice, an airconditioner, a 50 ft square umbrella, and a gallon of Gatorade. Every half inning.

3) The rubes in Orlando don't have to care about any one NFL team. We've got the Jags 2 hours north, the Bucs two hours west, and the 'Fins 3.5 hours south. We just pick whichever one doesn't totally suck and root for them. Fair weathered? Bandwagon? Hell, yeah. But wouldn't you be if the only pro team in town was the Magic?

4) If you come to Orlando -- not Disney or Univeral -- but actual Orlando, let me know. I'll send you where real life is. And you won't need anything made out of Kevlar to go there, either.

Second that motion. Live in Orlando too. With the exception of too many Gator fans this place is a great place to live.

 

[GVF]

Wouldn't disagree. Orlando, Ocala. Good places. Never resided, but visited friends several times in the past. Everyone should have to go offroading in Ocala Nat'l Forest.

 

[Jasongivm6]

Now you are fighting dirty.

The gloves come off...

1) The great players for the Marlins have all been traded for AA guys. Its like Gordon Gekko (different movie, but you get the idea) buying companies just to break them up.

2) Having a major league baseball team in South Florida play outside during July and August may be the single dumbest marketing decision EVER. They can't give away tickets to the 1 p.m. starts. People will take them, but only if you throw in a chest of ice, an airconditioner, a 50 ft square umbrella, and a gallon of Gatorade. Every half inning.

3) The rubes in Orlando don't have to care about any one NFL team. We've got the Jags 2 hours north, the Bucs two hours west, and the 'Fins 3.5 hours south. We just pick whichever one doesn't totally suck and root for them. Fair weathered? Bandwagon? Hell, yeah. But wouldn't you be if the only pro team in town was the Magic?

4) If you come to Orlando -- not Disney or Univeral -- but actual Orlando, let me know. I'll send you where real life is. And you won't need anything made out of Kevlar to go there, either.

I went to the Citrus Bowl in '96. We were stuck at a McDonald's in the ghetto for 5 hours because the Cabs said they didn't "go into that territory."