a bad rule

#76
#76
Just because a rule has existed for a long time doessent make it a good rule.

Also, see every other rule change ever
 
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#77
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Specs said:
Both touchbacks and safeties have sensible reasoning and conform to other rules.

The fumble rule contridicts other fumble rules.
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What other rules do safeties conform to?

Why does a fumble after you cross the goal not conform to other fumble rules?
 
#79
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Specs said:
Just because a rule has existed for a long time doessent make it a good rule.

Also, see every other rule change ever
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If you can't see the difference in this rule and the Music City Bowl rule, I can't help you.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
It does, you refuse to see it, and it's a waste of time to try to explain it to you anymore.

You might as well get over it too, because the rule will not be changed.
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Please then, as I already requested, explain the point of this rule and how it enhances the game.

No appealing to it having existed for a long time either!
 
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Specs said:
Please then, as I already requested, explain the point of this rule and how it enhances the game.

No appealing to it having existed for a long time either!
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I'm not repeating what volinbham already posted. If you didn't accept it the first time, you're not going to when I post it.
 
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volinbham said:
What other rules do safeties conform to?

Why does a fumble after you cross the goal not conform to other fumble rules?
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A safety is a safety what the hell dude.

And fumbling out of the field of play results in getting the ball at the spot of the fumble.

Unless its out of the endzone in which case its a turnover. Get it? Contradictions.

Consistently the team should receive the ball at the spot of the fumble.
 
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Specs said:
A safety is a safety what the hell dude.

And fumbling out of the field of play results in getting the ball at the spot of the fumble.

Unless its out of the endzone in which case its a turnover. Get it? Contradictions.

Consistently the team should receive the ball at the spot of the fumble.
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You said safeties conform to other rules - I asked what other rules and you respond "a safety is a safety"?

We've established that endzones and fields of plays have different rules right?
 
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volinbham said:
What does "enhancing the game" even mean?
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It means how is the game better, more fair, whatever than if the rule was different.

I'm glad I have to give English lessons on top of this discussion. You all are a joy to speak with.
 
#87
#87
So why?

1) does a safety yield 2 points?

2) does the team that scores points on the safety not have to kick to the other team but instead gets kicked to?

Doesn't make sense - dumb rule - don't care if it has existed for years - not clear how the game is enhanced.
 
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Specs said:
It means how is the game better, more fair, whatever than if the rule was different.

I'm glad I have to give English lessons on top of this discussion. You all are a joy to speak with.
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so you mean make it more enjoyable for you? glad you have such a clear definition of enhanced.

I'd prefer explosions when a sack occurs - that would really enhance it for me.
 
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volinbham said:
You said safeties conform to other rules - I asked what other rules and you respond "a safety is a safety"?

We've established that endzones and fields of plays have different rules right?
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The reason they in some cases have different rules is in instances where the general rule does not apply or could be considered unfair. Such as touchbacks resulting in safeties ect.

The idea the fumble rule is fine because "end zonestotally have different rules" is childish at best
 
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volinbham said:
Endzones are different than the playing field.

No one complains that if you lose the ball right after you cross the goal line even though you are not down it's not a fumble.

Safeties give the other team the ball without a turnover + points.

Quit complaining when a rule goes against us.
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Safeties are dumb
 
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volinbham said:
It exists across all levels of football and has for decades and decades yet you believe it is a dumb rule so we should all suddenly support changing it to fit your view of what football rules should be.
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Finally your getting it.
 
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#93
A simple question:

How is the current rule better than the fumbling team recovering at the spot of the fumble.

Also, why isn't it considered a turnover if a team fumbles out of bounds at any other location.
 
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Specs said:
The reason they in some cases have different rules is in instances where the general rule does not apply or could be considered unfair. Such as touchbacks resulting in safeties ect.

The idea the fumble rule is fine because "end zonestotally have different rules" is childish at best
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Childish is saying "me no likey this rule so it's dumb"
 
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Specs said:
A simple question:

How is the current rule better than the fumbling team recovering at the spot of the fumble.

Also, why isn't it considered a turnover if a team fumbles out of bounds at any other location.
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Better in what way?

Here's a question - why haven't either the NCAA or NFL (or any other football sanctioning body) who are all about game enhancement not changed this rule when they routinely monkey around with other rules?
 
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Apparently some of you have never played the game. Once fumbled, the ball is live just like a kickoff. Offense does not get to keep the ball at the point of a fumble, otherwise you would never lose a fumble. It is either recovered by one team or retained by the offense if it goes out of bounds in the field of play. The end zone is not in the field of play A live ball fumbled through the side or rear of the end zone is a touchback. It would have been UT ball if he fumbled out of bounds before he reached the goal line but it left his control before he got there.
 
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SC-Vol said:
Apparently some of you have never played the game. Once fumbled, the ball is live just like a kickoff. Offense does not get to keep the ball at the point of a fumble, otherwise you would never lose a fumble. It is either recovered by one team or retained by the offense if it goes out of bounds in the field of play. The end zone is not in the field of play A live ball fumbled through the side or rear of the end zone is a touchback. It would have been UT ball if he fumbled out of bounds before he reached the goal line but it left his control before he got there.
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thanks but be prepared to be told this doesn't "enhance the game"
 
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volinbham said:
Better in what way?

Here's a question - why haven't either the NCAA or NFL (or any other football sanctioning body) who are all about game enhancement not changed this rule when they routinely monkey around with other rules?
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Because it hasent caused enough public outrage for anyone to bother.

My question: answer my original question.

But you won't, because you have no good answer and will continue avoiding it.
 
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