A strong FSU and 4 team playoff hurts UF

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Lawrence Wright said:
I must have missed where I said UF had the best football facilities in the state.

I could respond with a similar strawman and say UT currently isn't the best CFB team in Tennessee, but I'll stop short of sayi....dammit!
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Yes, because I can think of at least three CFB teams in Florida last season that were better than UF. But, I won't out of the same respect that you just showed me.
 
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gunner said:
Yes, because I can think of at least three CFB teams in Florida last season that were better than UF. But, I won't out of the same respect that you just showed me.
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At least three? I missed where Blake Bortles and Storm Johnson are still at UCF...but sure, worst case UF is #4 right now.

I'm very secure in knowing UF has work to do to catch Miami's 5 NCs, and FSU is poised to pass us with potentially NC #4 this season.

It's not as though Vandy is our only in-state rival.

We've got legit national contenders around these parts. When we take a back seat to our in-state schools, chances are those schools are playing for crystal footballs.

And I fail to see where FSU or Miami having the upper hand on UF gives UT any advantage over UF whatsoever. There's more than enough history over the past three decades to suggest otherwise.
 
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This thread is comedic gold!

Somehow UF's lack of indoor practice facility and back in 2011 the bathrooms in the stadium smells help UT's chances against the Gators?
 
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Boca Vol said:
This thread is comedic gold!

Somehow UF's lack of indoor practice facility and back in 2011 the bathrooms in the stadium smells help UT's chances against the Gators?
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I know right?

And since FSU and Miami have UF's number recently, clearly this means UT is ready to leapfrog UF, Mizzou, South Carolina, UGA and yes, Vanderbilt on the way to the 2014 SEC Championship and beyond!!!! :thumbsup:
 
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Boca Vol said:
This thread is comedic gold!

Somehow UF's lack of indoor practice facility and back in 2011 the bathrooms in the stadium smells help UT's chances against the Gators?
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They installed new urinal cakes so our chances have been reduced once again.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I know right?

And since FSU and Miami have UF's number recently, clearly this means UT is ready to leapfrog UF, Mizzou, South Carolina, UGA and yes, Vanderbilt on the way to the 2014 SEC Championship and beyond!!!! :thumbsup:
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It cracks me up how UT fans rely on other teams in order to make fun of Bama & UF. I grew up in a time when you simply pointed to the scoreboard to end an argument.
 
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Boston Vol said:
I don't know how much facilities matter. When Pete Carroll was rolling at USC they had facilities on par with most Mountain West schools.
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The campus at Southern Cal is nice.

Step off campus and go one or two blocks in any direction and it's completely different.
 
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ETV said:
The campus at Southern Cal is nice.

Step off campus and go one or two blocks in any direction and it's completely different.
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Southern Cal is surrounded by the hood.

For decades, Miami played its home games in a dilapidated stadium in "el hood".

Oregon has the best facilities in CFB and the NFL, and they're looking for their first national title. Hell they can't beat Stanford consistently.
 
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Boca Vol said:
This thread is comedic gold!

Somehow UF's lack of indoor practice facility and back in 2011 the bathrooms in the stadium smells help UT's chances against the Gators?
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You obviously haven't been to their stadium. The thing is falling apart. The design was already weird to begin with, now it's badly dated.

Google their locker rooms and offices. I can smell the mold through my screen. Very Brady/70's shwag carpet thing going on there. With added cheap gator heads everywhere of course.

Their workout facility also looks dated.

I don't care when the renovation was done. If it was a cheap renovation (and I'm sure it was I see nothing on google or any forum or news feed that would lead me to think otherwise) it doesn't matter.

FSU has come a long way and they're almost at SEC level. Miami isn't and they'll pay for it eventually.

And last, but certainly not least. Work on your reading comprehension skills. The thread is about recruiting not "our chances against the Gators"...

Jesus.
 
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UTodd01 said:
You obviously haven't been to their stadium. The thing is falling apart. The design was already weird to begin with, now it's badly dated.

Google their locker rooms and offices. I can smell the mold through my screen. Very Brady/70's shwag carpet thing going on there. With added cheap gator heads everywhere of course.

Their workout facility also looks dated.

I don't care when the renovation was done. If it was a cheap renovation (and I'm sure it was I see nothing on google or any forum or news feed that would lead me to think otherwise) it doesn't matter.

FSU has come a long way and they're almost at SEC level. Miami isn't and they'll pay for it eventually.

And last, but certainly not least. Work on your reading comprehension skills. The thread is about recruiting not "our chances against the Gators"...

Jesus.
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Nice perspective, but I will differ with you on one point, FSU has upgraded ALL of their facilities since BB retired, and they are on par with that of other SEC powerhouses. They are by far the best in Florida, I know because I have seen them first hand last year when I attended a FSU game. Fisher has demanded this from the boosters since taking over from BB. He is on record stating that to beat the best teams in the SEC you have to compete with them, and that's what he has done the last few years at FSU.
 
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gunner said:
Nice perspective, but I will differ with you on one point, FSU has upgraded ALL of their facilities since BB retired, and they are on par with that of other SEC powerhouses. They are by far the best in Florida, I know because I have seen them first hand last year when I attended a FSU game. Fisher has demanded this from the boosters since taking over from BB. He is on record stating that to beat the best teams in the SEC you have to compete with them, and that's what he has done the last few years at FSU.
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I'm in complete agreement. The new stuff is stunning. I think the inside of Doak still needs work, but the brick work around the outside is nice. Although I think it has been there awhile.

Their other facilities (locker rooms, etc.) are great as well. Not OSU, Alabama, or Tennessee level - but they can compete.

I know it's a hard pill for Gator fans to swallow but they are bottom tier in the SEC. Probably dead last as a matter of fact. There are some bottom feeder ACC schools that put them to shame. NC State immediately comes to mind.

They don't ever have to worry about being below Miami however. Yuck.
 
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UTodd01 said:
I'm in complete agreement. The new stuff is stunning. I think the inside of Doak still needs work, but the brick work around the outside is nice. Although I think it has been there awhile.

Their other facilities (locker rooms, etc.) are great as well. Not OSU, Alabama, or Tennessee level - but they can compete.

I know it's a hard pill for Gator fans to swallow but they are bottom tier in the SEC. Probably dead last as a matter of fact. There are some bottom feeder ACC schools that put them to shame. NC State immediately comes to mind.

They don't ever have to worry about being below Miami however. Yuck.
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Looks like someone misplaced their credibility. :lolabove:
 
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This is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever seen.

UF has some of the best weight training facilities in the country, and the locker room and stadium are fine. The only real complaint from boosters recently is that they WANT to build an indoor practice facility, because the FANS think it's important, but Foley hasn't wanted to move on it, because frankly, he doesn't think it's that important.

Gator Speed & Strength - GatorZone.com - here is a link to the Griffin-Oakley Strength and Conditioning complex. It really is one of the better weight and conditioning training facilities in the country, and UF is always spending money on the newest tech and stuff in there. Uf spends tons of money on this stuff, and to assume they are way behind is ridiculous.

Regarding the recruiting class - UF is in on so many high profile recruits that won't commit until later in the year that it is ridiculous. Barring an epic collapse by the team this year, UF is going to get both CeCe Jefferson AND Byron Cowart (they are both on campus ALL THE TIME). If the offense has a pulse, the flips on offense are going to be ridiculous. No one is rooting harder for a gator collapse than Clemson, because if UF has an offense, they'll probably flip Ray Ray McCloud at a minimum, and maybe Cain as well. UF is in great position for Jeff Holland and Martez Ivey. Ivey has pretty much come out and said he is just waiting to see what the offense looks like. They're going to also land Tevon Coney soon, and they are in good shape for a number of good OL prospects. It wouldn't shock anyone if Roquan Smith, Joquan Johnson, and Dexter Williams (1,2, or all 3) ended up in this class.

If UF wins 8 or more games and the offense isn't a complete disaster, they will have a top 5 class, and if you can't see that, then you don't follow recruiting very closely. Even if they lose Muschamp, UF will probably still finish in the top 15.

Also to say that FSU and Miami being good dooms Florida is ridiculous. All three have been very good at times since the 80's. Every now and then, one of those 3 takes it's turn as top dog, but of the 3, Miami is in the most danger of becoming irrelevant. Definitely not Florida.
 
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AFL2008 said:
This is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever seen.

UF has some of the best weight training facilities in the country, and the locker room and stadium are fine. The only real complaint from boosters recently is that they WANT to build an indoor practice facility, because the FANS think it's important, but Foley hasn't wanted to move on it, because frankly, he doesn't think it's that important.

Gator Speed & Strength - GatorZone.com - here is a link to the Griffin-Oakley Strength and Conditioning complex.It really is one of the better weight and conditioning training facilities in the country, and UF is always spending money on the newest tech and stuff in there. Uf spends tons of money on this stuff, and to assume they are way behind is ridiculous.

Regarding the recruiting class - UF is in on so many high profile recruits that won't commit until later in the year that it is ridiculous. Barring an epic collapse by the team this year, UF is going to get both CeCe Jefferson AND Byron Cowart (they are both on campus ALL THE TIME). If the offense has a pulse, the flips on offense are going to be ridiculous. No one is rooting harder for a gator collapse than Clemson, because if UF has an offense, they'll probably flip Ray Ray McCloud at a minimum, and maybe Cain as well. UF is in great position for Jeff Holland and Martez Ivey. Ivey has pretty much come out and said he is just waiting to see what the offense looks like. They're going to also land Tevon Coney soon, and they are in good shape for a number of good OL prospects. It wouldn't shock anyone if Roquan Smith, Joquan Johnson, and Dexter Williams (1,2, or all 3) ended up in this class.

If UF wins 8 or more games and the offense isn't a complete disaster, they will have a top 5 class, and if you can't see that, then you don't follow recruiting very closely. Even if they lose Muschamp, UF will probably still finish in the top 15.

Also to say that FSU and Miami being good dooms Florida is ridiculous. All three have been very good at times since the 80's. Every now and then, one of those 3 takes it's turn as top dog, but of the 3, Miami is in the most danger of becoming irrelevant. Definitely not Florida.
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Is that my local Gold's Gym? :eek:lol:

Look, I never said Florida had "bad" facilities. Are they the worst in the SEC? Probably. Are they way behind the rest of the SEC? Yes. Are they bad? No.

BHG is a different story. The outside looks like a north Memphis apartment complex. That concourse "renovation" looks like it consisted of cleaning the nasty thing (much needed) w/ added cheap graphics. I see they repainted "This is The Swamp..."

That's...good. I guess.

They've always been a bit behind the rest of the SEC when it comes to this. Now the wins aren't there to keep it from being talked about. It something that needs to be talked about within the administration. It's okay for you fans to open up about it too. Lying to yourself is never good.

Now that the wins aren't there to cover it up, maybe it's better that you do start talking about it within your fan base. Another losing season (although it probably won't happen) will be disaster.
 
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UTodd01 said:
Is that my local Gold's Gym? :eek:lol:

Look, I never said Florida had "bad" facilities. Are they the worst in the SEC? Probably. Are they way behind the rest of the SEC? Yes. Are they bad? No.

BHG is a different story. The outside looks like a north Memphis apartment complex. That concourse "renovation" looks like it consisted of cleaning the nasty thing (much needed) w/ added cheap graphics. I see they repainted "This is The Swamp..."

That's...good. I guess.

They've always been a bit behind the rest of the SEC when it comes to this. Now the wins aren't there to keep it from being talked about. It something that needs to be talked about within the administration. It's okay for you fans to open up about it too. Lying to yourself is never good.

Now that the wins aren't there to cover it up, maybe it's better that you do start talking about it within your fan base. Another losing season (although it probably won't happen) will be disaster.
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Look, you did say UF had bad facilities, the worst in the SEC in fact, with nothing objective to back it up.

"...probably dead last as a matter of fact..."
Which is it...probably, or a matter of fact? :eek:lol:

How many SEC campuses have you visited personally to come to that conclusion?
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Look, you did say UF had bad facilities, the worst in the SEC in fact, with nothing objective to back it up.

"...probably dead last as a matter of fact..."
Which is it...probably, or a matter of fact? :eek:lol:

How many SEC campuses have you visited personally to come to that conclusion?
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All of them except A&M and Missouri.

I understand why you're so angry. It's because you know it's true.

How about instead of arguing with me on a Tennessee forum, you start a conversation about it with your fellow fans on your own forum and get something done about it.

There's no reason Florida should be behind Arkansas in anything.
 
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UTodd01 said:
All of them except A&M and Missouri.

I understand why you're so angry. It's because you know it's true.

How about instead of arguing with me on a Tennessee forum, you start a conversation about it with your fellow fans on your own forum and get something done about it.

There's no reason Florida should be behind Arkansas in anything.
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If you gleaned anger from my posts, or any of the posts from the natives here who agree with me, you really are dumber than I thought. :eek:lol:

No UF fan is under the illusion that our facilities are on par with Alabama or Oregon...or hell, Arkansas for that matter. For a while Arkansas had the best facilities in the Southeast, and it hasn't exactly translated into SEC titles.

You can continue to point out how UF's facilities are "probably" the worst in the SEC "as a matter of fact"...based on your opinion of course. Damn that's brilliant. :eek:lol:

Once UF starts winning again, with or without Muschamp, I'm fully confident our facilities will have less to do with our success that you suggest.

Gotta love the off season. :thumbsup:
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
If you gleaned anger from my posts, or any of the posts from the natives here who agree with me, you really are dumber than I thought. :eek:lol:

No UF fan is under the illusion that our facilities are on par with Alabama or Oregon...or hell, Arkansas for that matter. For a while Arkansas had the best facilities in the Southeast, and it hasn't exactly translated into SEC titles.

You can continue to point out how UF's facilities are "probably" the worst in the SEC "as a matter of fact"...based on your opinion of course. Damn that's brilliant. :eek:lol:

Once UF starts winning again, with or without Muschamp, I'm fully confident our facilities will have less to do with our success that you suggest.

Gotta love the off season. :thumbsup:
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I'm glad my hillbilly use of that term amuses you as much as Florida's facilities amuse me.
 
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I feel bad for you. This is all you got to throw at Florida? Facilities? Which you evidently actually know very little about.

Man... I don't usually talk trash on these forums, I come here to talk football, but I hope if UF ever loses to someone 9 straight in my lifetime that I don't resort to desperation stuff like this...

What's sad is that, if you had maybe posted this on another forum, I might think you are just trolling, but since you put it on the UT forum, I know you are actually serious.

:lol:
 
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UTodd01 said:
You obviously haven't been to their stadium. The thing is falling apart. The design was already weird to begin with, now it's badly dated.

Google their locker rooms and offices. I can smell the mold through my screen. Very Brady/70's shwag carpet thing going on there. With added cheap gator heads everywhere of course.

Their workout facility also looks dated.

I don't care when the renovation was done. If it was a cheap renovation (and I'm sure it was I see nothing on google or any forum or news feed that would lead me to think otherwise) it doesn't matter.

FSU has come a long way and they're almost at SEC level. Miami isn't and they'll pay for it eventually.

And last, but certainly not least. Work on your reading comprehension skills. The thread is about recruiting not "our chances against the Gators"...

Jesus.
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You're the one that brought BHG's bathrooms and concession stands into the conversation and how they affect UF's recruiting. :ermm:

And yes, I've been to BHG 6 or 7 times and I couldn't tell you the 1st thing about their restrooms as I simply used them to take a leak. I didn't have Martha Stewart in tow pointing things out.

It seems UF's trophy case could easily counter the points you're trying to make. Hell, Miami was winning national titles playing in front of 25,000 people in the dump known as the Orange Bowl.

I get what you're saying about facilities, but you're reaching.
 
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