Abortion Rights

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MercyPercy said:
I'm not sure the "abortion is murder!" crowd has fully considered the implications of our current American society and culture in which abortion became completely, absolutely illegal in all circumstances.

It sounds great and feels nice to virtue signal but most of them probably would not like the consequences of banning abortions completely. You think we have poverty issues now? Oh, and instead of your taxes helping her with occasional birth control, they're now helping her raise 6 kids for decades while she works minimum wage, if at all.

Be careful what you wish for.
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or we ban abortion or get rid of welfare. that sounds more GOPish than increasing welfare.
 
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I can say with certainty that if a person is for abortion, they are not a Christian.
God is very plain that murders shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Jesus said that if you hate your brother without a cause that your are guilty of murder. What do you think he thinks about someone supporting murder and voting for people that will leagalize murder? Of course it's already happened but if our sorry politicians will do their job it can be reversed.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I know this much, every one that gets a vote about the abortion of the life at hand...is already alive. They already got to go full term and become a person. Why doesn't the baby get a vote? Hundreds of thousands of couples want to adopt in the US right now
Today.

Nobody I know thinks a girl that has been raped should be forced to carry the baby of some violent criminal...but that almost never, ever happens. Thats a straw man the left uses to justify killing unborn humans at record pace as a means of birth control for irresponsible people
Don't spread your legs.

Guys..don't put your penis in a girl unless you are fully prepared to support a child

Don't kill babies because you dont want your sin to come to light when you have to carry a baby full term and put it up for adoption.

Be responsible for your actions
It really is that simple.
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Statistics show that abstinence education fails every time.
 
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BigO95 said:
I can say with certainty that if a person is for abortion, they are not a Christian.
God is very plain that murders shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Jesus said that if you hate your brother without a cause that your are guilty of murder. What do you think he thinks about someone supporting murder and voting for people that will leagalize murder? Of course it's already happened but if our sorry politicians will do their job it can be reversed.
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Bible doesn't cover voting there, Joel Osteen.

Passing judgment on who goes to hell and who doesn't is a big no-no. I might be more Christlike than you at this rate.
 
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LouderVol said:
or we ban abortion or get rid of welfare. that sounds more GOPish than increasing welfare.
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Make adoption free, subsidize it with a tax on abortions and require an IUD implant for welfare recipients. win/win.
 
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MercyPercy said:
I'm not sure the "abortion is murder!" crowd has fully considered the implications of our current American society and culture in which abortion became completely, absolutely illegal in all circumstances.

It sounds great and feels nice to virtue signal but most of them probably would not like the consequences of banning abortions completely. You think we have poverty issues now? Oh, and instead of your taxes helping her with occasional birth control, they're now helping her raise 6 kids for decades while she works minimum wage, if at all.

Be careful what you wish for.
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This, also, is not a great argument. The burden of responsibility falls on the individuals, and their inability to function as prudent citizens. It’s not my responsibility to fund abortions or woeful incompetence, whether you agree with my stance or not.

I expect no less, however. Liberals take a problem and project their agenda with a - what if, even worse case scenario. Everything is free. Free healthcare, free abortions, free contraceptives, free education, free phones, free food.....free willy.
 
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LouderVol said:
neither of those situations changes what our body is doing. the end of your sweaty palm experience is probably remarkably similar to an end in a moist craw, except you end up crying alone.

And I would never justify something because of anyone's culture. our culture also likes Taylor's Swift's music, Michael "Explosion" Bay movies, and Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton as our two presidential candidates.
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I know you just didn't talk sht about Tay Tay. You think this is a game?
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Bible doesn't cover voting there, Joel Osteen.

Passing judgment on who goes to hell and who doesn't is a big no-no. I might be more Christlike than you at this rate.
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Why don't you read 1st Cor 6:9-11 there bud? Rev 21:27, 22:15 and many more references could be added there. God has already proclaimed in his word what certain lifestyles people lead that God says that they are lost!
There's you some Bible on the subject.

I can't see anyone's heart and know for sure but if these lifestyles are what they are year after year they are lost. God has declared it in his word.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Statistics show that abstinence education fails every time.
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cause its not really an education.

Pair them up, give them a baby to take care for a week and make them take care of it.

real life skills and probably a pretty big deterrent.

I would also suggest they have to follow around a doctor as they deal with STDs.

and just to be fair give them the sugar free cookie so they know what they are missing out on.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Bible doesn't cover voting there, Joel Osteen.

Passing judgment on who goes to hell and who doesn't is a big no-no. I might be more Christlike than you at this rate.
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At your Liberty just go ahead and give me your Bible verses to support your doctrine.
 
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BigO95 said:
I just read through your posts and you was arguing when life begins. That's an argument that the pro-choice crowd uses all the time. So then, I apologise for the misunderstanding and ask your forgiveness for making a false assumption.
That's the best that I know to do.
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Don't ask for forgiveness Creflo, that's what Ray Ban wearing hipsters and people who watch CNN do.

Instead double down on your claims he's pro abortion and as always, demand satisfaction.
 
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hog88 said:
Make adoption free, subsidize it with a tax on abortions and require an IUD implant for welfare recipients. win/win.
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I would also require that a woman who gets an abortion is also fitted with an IUD that she will then have to pay herself (or family) to remove. After the abortion.

if we aren't getting rid of abortion all together.
 
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Septic said:
Don't ask for forgiveness Creflo, that's what Ray Ban wearing hipsters and people who watch CNN do.

Instead double down on your claims he's pro abortion and as always, demand satisfaction.
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Septic, you wouldn't want to stir up trouble would you?
 
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LouderVol said:
I would also require that a woman who gets an abortion is also fitted with an IUD that she will then have to pay herself (or family) to remove. After the abortion.

if we aren't getting rid of abortion all together.
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I'm a proponent of mandatory IUD implants at 15 (if they have them for boys them to) and you have to get a permit to have them removed to have a kid. Show mental and fiscal responsibility and such before you can have one.
 
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Septic said:
I know you just didn't talk sht about Tay Tay. You think this is a game?
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Ima let you finish, but.....

She is an alabaster godess, that I would gladly have nonaborted babies with (to be on topic); but her music sucks.
 
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BigO95 said:
Septic, you wouldn't want to stir up trouble would you?
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No way man, I'm a healer - like a beer summit kind of unifier. I just know when enough is enough and when it's time to drop the gloves, right now - it's time to throw hands.

Don't want to see you go out like a sucka.
 
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hog88 said:
I'm a proponent of mandatory IUD implants at 15 (if they have them for boys them to) and you have to get a permit to have them removed to have a kid. Show mental and fiscal responsibility and such before you can have one.
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And tattoo everybody's serial number on their arms?
 
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BigO95 said:
Why don't you read 1st Cor 6:9-11 there bud? Rev 21:27, 22:15 and many more references could be added there. God has already proclaimed in his word what certain lifestyles people lead that God says that they are lost!
There's you some Bible on the subject.

I can't see anyone's heart and know for sure but if these lifestyles are what they are year after year they are lost. God has declared it in his word.
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