About to hit the fan at UNC...basketball and football academic fraud.

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Well, that's generally true; they wouldn't have as many current players as us. But, the RTL has been around since at least 2008, I think. At the time, I thought KY would immediately copy us, make theirs bigger, and then make fun of us for using Bearden High. Instead, I'll enjoy the fact that we have something nice for the players and fans that they don't.
 
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Daloth said:
Isn't UNC supposed to be a high level academic institution?
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Yeah, just ask em. It's the Carolina Way. I really hope they get investigated even further. Anything bad that happens to UNC athletics makes me happy.
 
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Brian McCat said:
It's a public state university. They're no Harvard.
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I may have misread it, but I swear recalling they have one of the best research programs in the nation as part of their grad school.

Again, could be totally misremembering. I just know when I told my contact from Duke that I really liked research side of science, he said to look at UNC also if I liked biology especially. (He did grad school at Duke, Undergrad at UNC. No, I don't understand it either)
 
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Brian McCat said:
My point was that they aren't some hoity-toity Ivy League.

You need to pull at least a 750 SAT or 16 on the ACT to get in this fall at UNC. Not exactly elite requirements.

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That may be so, but I doubt anyone who can't dunk a basketball or throw a football 65 yards is getting in with that academic record.

I know that UNC's MBA Program is one of the best in the country, pushing the Top 10.
And, they also had the snobbiest interviewer out of all of the places I applied to. The guy felt a need to take a smelly dump on my law school education. He acted like a Top 60 law school was a cakewalk compared to his MBA program. The only other place I encountered someone as snobby was UVA. I didn't even bother applying to UVA. And, no I didn't get into UNC MBA. Just for the purpose of preventing anyone from thinking I walked into UNC with a totally inferior resume, the best school to take me was IU, and I saved a ton of cash by taking a full ride at UF instead. The guy at UNC was a clown; I guess that's how he treats people he feels do not meet their qualifications. Totally unnecessary pot-shot.

I normally don't throw my background into posts (it's not like I'm from Harvard), but whenever the subject of UNC academics comes up, I have two opinions - 1) their academics are solid, and it's a tough school to get into and 2) the guy who interviewed me had his nose in the clouds.
 
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Well atleast we know this isn't going on at UT. Well, unless they can't even pass a class that's not really even a class that is.
 
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The UNC wine and cheese crowd strikes again. But you're referring to a graduate program, not general undergraduate admissions anyway.
 
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Hey, look all you Kentucky fans on this Tennessee board. Just look at it this way: you all feel like you are the exemplar of college basketball excellence (playing SEC basketball all these years with basically no competition and getting all those tournament invites before the late 70s/early 80s when you had to win your conference.) Feel honored once again...maybe UNC is trying to imitate you! Academic fraud...another great step along UNC's way to just feigning to be half as good a program historically as Kentucky! Oh, and by the way, look up who owns the all-time series between the two schools.
 
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BartW said:
The 100 level geology classes here at UT are also nicknamed "rocks for jocks". That said, I think they're about as easy as any 100 level science class.

source: physics/geology major
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Shoot, we called it Rocks for Jocks at Duke back in 1972.

We also had professors that we called Suitcase Simpson. Some things never change.
 
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volprof said:
Hey, look all you Kentucky fans on this Tennessee board. Just look at it this way: you all feel like you are the exemplar of college basketball excellence (playing SEC basketball all these years with basically no competition and getting all those tournament invites before the late 70s/early 80s when you had to win your conference.) Feel honored once again...maybe UNC is trying to imitate you! Academic fraud...another great step along UNC's way to just feigning to be half as good a program historically as Kentucky! Oh, and by the way, look up who owns the all-time series between the two schools.
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u mad bro?
 
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volprof said:
I don't know. You all are the one with the losing record to UNC.
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UK has a winning record against UNC this century.

Congrats on the three wins before 1933, though.

Both programs have a rich, blue-blooded tradition and depending on the era, one has held dominance over the other. Quoting all time record really isn't something to crow about. But I definitely respect their tradition.
 
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Brian McCat said:
The UNC wine and cheese crowd strikes again. But you're referring to a graduate program, not general undergraduate admissions anyway.
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I just checked US News, and they have UNC as the #29 undergraduate university. They are much higher for MBAs, but you have to figure that not every Top 30 university has a graduate school.

My general impression, as I toured MBA programs, was that it's actually typically easier, per capita, to get into an MBA program than it is to get in as an undergraduate at the same universities.

I won't keep defending UNC. I just don't want to read everybody crap on the academics of a school that crapped on me, lol.
 
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Also keep in mind that the admissions standards for out-of-state students might be far, far higher than those for in-state.

(too lazy to look this up :))
 
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volprof said:
Are you a native North Carolinian, RDU VOL?
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I am. I grew up in Durham ( 5mins from Duke's Campus) from lower school until I went to UT. I came back bc of a girl, and well here I am. I grew up a Duke fan, my parents are Iron Duke's and I have been to more Duke/UNC games in Cameron/Smith Center than I have total in TBA. In all honesty, I have great respect for UNC Bball and the rivalry that Duke shares w/ Carolina. I've never been a part of anything like it. For those who disagree, imagine UT vs. Bama or Fla 8 miles apart. I just think that UNC Football is a joke, it always has been convenient for the fans and not something they really take seriously.
 
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Brian McCat said:
My point was that they aren't some hoity-toity Ivy League.

You need to pull at least a 750 SAT or 16 on the ACT to get in this fall at UNC. Not exactly elite requirements.

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Look I'm all for the UNC bashing, but I have to admit it's hard to knock on there academic admissions. I realize what's going on w/ this scandal, but UNC is probably a top 5-10 public university from an admissions standpoint. I just threw up a little bit.

Actually, one of my best friends got wait listed at Carolina and got into Vandy first try.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I am. I grew up in Durham ( 5mins from Duke's Campus) from lower school until I went to UT. I came back bc of a girl, and well here I am. I grew up a Duke fan, my parents are Iron Duke's and I have been to more Duke/UNC games in Cameron/Smith Center than I have total in TBA. In all honesty, I have great respect for UNC Bball and the rivalry that Duke shares w/ Carolina. I've never been a part of anything like it. For those who disagree, imagine UT vs. Bama or Fla 8 miles apart. I just think that UNC Football is a joke, it always has been convenient for the fans and not something they really take seriously.
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I know that since you attended UT, you probably claim them as your football school, but it is still worth a scratch of the head and a chuckle to hear a Duke fan call someone elses football program a joke. :)
 
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A former Duke football player was in my MBA class at UF.

I had to share that tidbit.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
I know that since you attended UT, you probably claim them as your football school, but it is still worth a scratch of the head and a chuckle to hear a Duke fan call someone elses football program a joke. :)
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Well, I actually claim UT as MY School. Believe me, I know Duke is a terrible football program, much like yours. However, Duke fans do not claim to have an even remotely good program like UNC or State, or any other mediocre ACC team does. The funny thing is, Duke has won an ACC championship in football more recently than UNC and State. That was the point I was trying to make. UNC football fans are there when it's convenient, you know what I'm talking about.
 
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Our football cheer, at Duke back in 1972: "If you can't go to college, go to State!" thump thump

Back then, the stadium seats didn't go all around, and the students who bothered to attend sprawled in the grass at the end zones. Couple of different interpretations of sprawling in grass, now that I think about it.

Duke and Chapel Hill (UNC) are b'ball schools. Football season is just marking time.
 
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Brian McCat said:
UK has a winning record against UNC this century.

Congrats on the three wins before 1933, though.

Both programs have a rich, blue-blooded tradition and depending on the era, one has held dominance over the other. Quoting all time record really isn't something to crow about. But I definitely respect their tradition.
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Congratulations on your winning record this past 12 years or so! I guess those are the only dates that matter in college basketball history. You still are far from owning the all-time series. Anyhow, I'm not here to attack the Kentucky program. I just saw my school being attacked here and felt like firing some shots back. I just get so tired of some people (not necessarily accusing anyone in particular on this forum) of acting like Kentucky is the indisputable standard of college basketball. When you look at things without any context, yeah, they are. But when you throw in specifics, like conference play over time, tournament rules before the so-called "modern-era" (which kept good teams from going to the NCAA tournament to compete against schools like UCLA and Kentucky), etc., it becomes a little bit more fuzzy. I completely agree with you though: both programs are without a doubt to be envied. I don't necessarily dispute anyone's claim for Kentucky's preeminence; I just think there are legitimate arguments against it at the same time. But apples and oranges: it's stupid to argue the point at the end of the day. Everyone is set in their opinions, and it's a relatively pointless issue anyhow.
 
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