Akiem Hicks

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#4
great. we're going head to head with Purdue and South Florida.
 
#6
#6
As soon as I saw the schools in the running, I knew that you were going to say something Rex. HA HA. I would take him to just have a big body down in the trenches though.
 
#7
#7
I don't suppose this is a terrible time to remind rex that USF currently has one of the best D-linemen in the country?

That list also includes Oregon... who probably has the second best program in the Pac10 over the last several years.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't suppose this is a terrible time to remind rex that USF currently has one of the best D-linemen in the country?
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What does that have to do with anything? Jerry Rice went to a very small school dont you want Tennessee to be mentioned in the same breath as Mississippi Valley State? if you're happy going head to head with South Florida then you're part of the problem.
 
#9
#9
those are some pretty big time schools on that list. Purdue and USF aren't exactly slouches. I seem to remember USF being #2 in the nation at some point this season.
 
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Have to agree with Dawson and say that at this point I'd rather see more big bodies who can play a few series a game in the trenches than more LB/RB/FB/TE type athletes.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
those are some pretty big time schools on that list. Purdue and USF aren't exactly slouches. I seem to remember USF being #2 in the nation at some point this season.
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yeah, purdue is a big time football powerhouse and usf at 2 was joke, how'd that end up? you guys should be on phil's payroll what with all the excuses you make up for him.
 
#15
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at this point it seems we have a major flaw in getting premium DT at Tennessee and if something doesn't change fast the panic button will be used and we'll have to start taking any able bodied men that can play DT. I wish i understood why with the playing time that can be offered, why we're not getting a few commitments from them.
 
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rexvol said:
What does that have to do with anything? Jerry Rice went to a very small school dont you want Tennessee to be mentioned in the same breath as Mississippi Valley State? if you're happy going head to head with South Florida then you're part of the problem.
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It has everything to do with those schools knowing what a good DL looks like and the Rice straw man is ridiculous. USF is still regarded as an up and coming program. Purdue has struggled but is still a BCS school with a tradition. There is no comparison between them and MVS.

Considering that Bolden and Fisher are gone after this year which will probably leave UT with 2 or at the most 3 SEC quality DT's on the team... they are in a position that most schools on their level aren't. They MUST look at JUCO DT's and find some good ones.
 
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rexvol said:
yeah, purdue is a big time football powerhouse and usf at 2 was joke, how'd that end up? you guys should be on phil's payroll what with all the excuses you make up for him.
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It isn't an excuse. UT has little depth at DT and will have practically none next year. They MUST look at JUCO DT's while most of their peers have Sophs and Jrs who'll fill out their depth charts.

This isn't a good thing. It is a terrible thing and responsibility ultimately lies at the feet of Fulmer and Chavis.
 
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I40VOL said:
at this point it seems we have a major flaw in getting premium DT at Tennessee and if something doesn't change fast the panic button will be used and we'll have to start taking any able bodied men that can play DT. I wish i understood why with the playing time that can be offered, why we're not getting a few commitments from them.
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They seem to be unable to get out of state blue chippers and unwilling to take risks on in-state kids that they might be able to develop.

Given my "ruthers", I'd like to see them sign all 5 or 6 of the instate DT's that have been mentioned here in the hopes of developing 3 that can contribute at a high level. They'd develop some relationships, mend some fences, and probably do at least as well as they're doing now. The recruiting svc evaluation of DT's is pretty close to a crap-shoot anyway.
 
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sjt18;1421771 The recruiting svc evaluation of DT's is pretty close to a crap-shoot anyway
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that's your reason for wasting a scholarship on a guy that cant play? because rivals doesnt always get it right.
 
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rexvol said:
that's your reason for wasting a scholarship on a guy that cant play? because rivals doesnt always get it right.
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Your right, we don't need a recruiting coordinator we should just let rivals or scout tell us who to go after.
 
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rexvol said:
that's your reason for wasting a scholarship on a guy that cant play? because rivals doesnt always get it right.
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Did I say that anywhere? Ans: NO.

It is a good reason to find guys who either can play and haven't gone to the right camps or sent film to the right people OR to find kids with the right measurables that you can develop. It is especially a good reason not to go into a spasm just because Rivals hasn't discovered a kid and awarded him the vaunted 5* seal of approval.
 
#23
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Oh btw rex. It is a crapshoot for many reasons. Among them: the kids usually don't face anyone who can compete with them physically in HS, you can't always predict which ones will develop/work and practically none of them show up ready to play against top competition, the guys who end up successful will learn to play fast (not all of them can), some lack instinct and cover with physical dominance,...

What linemen do and must do isn't as easily measured at a combine as what helps predict the talent of skill players.
 
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tsvol06 said:
Your right, we don't need a recruiting coordinator we should just let rivals or scout tell us who to go after.
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of course we should just ignore them completely. they dont pay guys to travel all over the country to evaluate guys. it's not like they make a living doing that or anything.
 
#25
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No one said they should be ignored. Why are you exaggerating the points being made rather than answering them?

Specifically- what I consistently say though is that they have a harder time evaluating DT's and OL's. A kid that can dominate at OG in HS and even has good measurables could be a "bust" in college if he isn't aggressive/smart/balanced/agile/flexible/teachable/etc enough.

Even Marvin Austin that signed with UNC last year as the best DT to come out in awhile got manhandled on a regular basis by former 2/3* OL's. He'll be good if he works to get better... but if he plateaus, he'll fade into obscurity.
 
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