'19 AL CB Jaydon Hill

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codyg10 said:
You think recruits are going to buy into a coach whose team gets embarrassed on every nationally televised game they play this year? Because that's what's going to happen this year. Outside of Vandy and Kentucky they won't even be in contention of winning any significant games, and if they can't get some studs in this class next year won't be any different, and I'm not talking about guys that will be decent players in 1-2 years. We need guys that can come on right away and help us win ball games. Because if they don't start winning soon no one other than instate fans will want to play there because Georgia is about to be where Clemson is. Florida is about to be a lot better, so will Miami, Ole Miss, FSU, Virginia Tech, and Texas A&M. Basically all of our recruiting areas are about to start being raided
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How do you know what's going to happen this year? We've played one game against a damn good QB. Now the team goes back, looks at the game film, and hopefully improves. Before you claim this team a failure, let's see how Pruitt and staff respond in making adjustments. Unlike some of our SEC brethren, we didn't start with a cream puff.
 
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codyg10 said:
And why would an elite recruit want to play for a team that hasn't been to a conference title game in 11 years and hasn't won one in 20? Don't say playing time either because the elite ones will find their way on the field anywhere
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An elite recruit goes to Bama and he's still most likely to sit the bench his first year or two because they are that loaded. An elite recruit comes to UT and he's more likely to see the field immediately because our roster is that thin.

At this point it's not the program they'd be buying into anyway, it's Pruitt. Can Pruitt sell himself and his past success to draw some elite players? We shall see.
 
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Charleton Warren liked his tweet about “big news this week”, doesn’t necessarily mean anything but warren doesn’t like many tweets
 
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LA Vol said:
There's literally no position on the field that an elite recruit couldn't see himself coming in and playing right away.
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Problem is that elite recruits will play anywhere. This pitch only works with good players (still good pickups) but the high 4 and 5 stars aren’t worried about playing time. Not trying to be negative I think we will get our share of guys this year and just need to win next year and be top 5 or so in recruiting next year
 
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2xVol said:
Problem is that elite recruits will play anywhere. This pitch only works with good players (still good pickups) but the high 4 and 5 stars aren’t worried about playing time. Not trying to be negative I think we will get our share of guys this year and just need to win next year and be top 5 or so in recruiting next year
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Not entirely true. Some of those high 4 and 5 star players want to be Day One starters and not sit the bench behind other highly recruited players, which is what happens when they choose someone like Bama or Georgia. Some feel they have the ability to make a team a contender. And part of it may rest on whether Pruitt and staff can convince them they can be that difference.

And that's not taking into account the doom and gloom perspective is coming into play after ONE game. West Virginia obviously deserved their ranking, and Grier absolutely deserves his hype. If we improve game to game this season, recruits will see that, and it will pique the interest of some.
 
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Weezer said:
Not entirely true. Some of those high 4 and 5 star players want to be Day One starters and not sit the bench behind other highly recruited players, which is what happens when they choose someone like Bama or Georgia. Some feel they have the ability to make a team a contender. And part of it may rest on whether Pruitt and staff can convince them they can be that difference.

And that's not taking into account the doom and gloom perspective is coming into play after ONE game. West Virginia obviously deserved their ranking, and Grier absolutely deserves his hype. If we improve game to game this season, recruits will see that, and it will pique the interest of some.
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I probably came off really negative! I for one am confident his team will improve greatly over the season. Also, will Grier was absolutely lethal in the second half. He would have put up points on any defense much less our young secondary. I still see 7 wins and I think plenty of recruits will want on board to help take us to the next level. Jaydon Hill will watch that game and see instant playing time and 3+ years to develop into an all-American corner (in his mind atleast, but he does have lots of potential) coaches by a proven DB coach who also happens to be the head coach who has shown himself to be perfectly confident in playing young guys who have shown that they are the best option. People predicting him to go to the gators are being over-reactionary imo
 
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Blake25p said:
Step off the ledge. Loosing like we did sucks but I think we greatly underestimated how good West Virginia is. You think Florida, South Carolina and Missouri is better or on the same level they are? Because I don’t.
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Florida and South Carolina actually have solid defenses and play a physical brand of football. We just had a 7 on 7 team impose their will on us at every aspect of the game play after play after play. Florida and South Carolina will do much worse
 
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2xVol said:
Problem is that elite recruits will play anywhere. This pitch only works with good players (still good pickups) but the high 4 and 5 stars aren’t worried about playing time. Not trying to be negative I think we will get our share of guys this year and just need to win next year and be top 5 or so in recruiting next year
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You’re wrong
 
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85SugarVol said:
You’re wrong
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Check out my response earlier bud. I think we can still land good recruits, even a few elite ones. I’m not wrong though, truly elite recruits want to win, they expect to play anywhere.

I like evidence. Here is your evidence: the vast majority of elite recruits sign with national championship winning (or contending) coaches.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Calm down Cody. I feel you buddy. This is frustrating. Having said that, recruiting is based on 2 major things. 1. Those on top. 2. Those on the come up. We are recruiting at #2. Players understand that. Pruitt is honest and has a knack for attracting tough kids that will match his personality. The stench of Jones will take about half this season to get rid of and another 2 years to build. As a fan base, it’s time for us to understand where we’re at and enjoy the upsets we delivery until we have the talent to compete.
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I agree but the problem is nothing yesterday indicated that we're anywhere close to being on the come up, and it's not going to get any better as the season goes on. We just got mamhandled by probably the least physical team in the top 25. Image what Florida, Georgia, Bama, Diet USC, and Auburn will do. I know we don't have the guys to compete with them right now, and we probably won't be able to next year either, and at most we're competing for 3rd place in the east in 2020, and at that point how much longer can you sell recruits on bringing the program back when you're on your 3rd class and you still aren't anywhere near being competitive in your division. Do you not remember how bad that 2009 team was that Kiffin took to Tuscaloosa and nearly left with a win? Sure it was the middle of the season, but that Tennessee team was far worse than the one now even if we had Berry, and that Alabama team was far better than West Virginia. I was very high an Pruitt after I heard what he had to say and what others had to say about him, but after seeing how undisciplined and soft we were yesterday not to mention how much we were outcoached it's hard for me to believe that he's going to be able to make the team competitive again. We seemed extremely unprepared in nearly every aspect of the game which is a major problem considering we had film on them and they had none on us. Can you imagine how bad it would've been had we played them in week 2 and they had film on us? Recruits are making their decisions about Tennessee based on the fact we have a new coach that's going to make important changes to the program, but there has to be results if he wants to keep pulling big time guys. That's one of the issues we ran into with Butch. He was able to get a lot of studs his first couple years because they saw an opportunity to play often and early and turn a dying program -that used to be elite- around. After those 2-3 years though everyone realized it wasn't going to work and stopped buying in. I know it's 1 game and it's still very early for him, but first impressions are extremely important and his first impression was horrible. I don't care what anyone has to say about yesterday either. The only plus to that game were the 2 scoring drives and having the balls to go for it on 4th and goal. Everything else was pitiful and embarrassing to watch
 
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2xVol said:
Check out my response earlier bud. I think we can still land good recruits, even a few elite ones. I’m not wrong though, truly elite recruits want to win, they expect to play anywhere.

I like evidence. Here is your evidence: the vast majority of elite recruits sign with national championship winning (or contending) coaches.
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Lol. That’s not evidence. That’s a statement.
 
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2xVol said:
Check out my response earlier bud. I think we can still land good recruits, even a few elite ones. I’m not wrong though, truly elite recruits want to win, they expect to play anywhere.

I like evidence. Here is your evidence: the vast majority of elite recruits sign with national championship winning (or contending) coaches.
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Cant argue with that. 5 stars are willing to sit on the bench at Bama and Georgia and Clemson etc to win Championships.
 
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