'21 AL WDE Dylan Brooks (Auburn transfer)

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VolFreakJosh said:
Pruitt is the HC.

He’s the one who assembled this coaching staff.

The one getting paid 3.8 million to win ball games? Yeah, that’s all on him.
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Pruitt deserves tons of blame, and like I said, he's in over his head. But Tee Martin, Jim Chaney, Jay Graham etc all just didn't forget how to coach. Even Friend is a decent coach. But every group has regressed. Screams of more than just one dude.
 
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jackcrevol said:
i think the people who take to twitter amd social media are... thing to post on a mb another to have contact with a hs kid. not ok
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The ones that reply to recruits are idiots too. All fanbases have those. Tennessee differs only in that they remain passionate. Most of what is considered VolTwitter doesn't reply to recruits.
 
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GVol1966 said:
I accept that some on here do believe that Pruitt can succeed, inspite of all the evidence suggesting the opposite.
I also believe there were just as many believers in Butch Jones succeeding the year before he lost every sec game and got fired mid season.
Follow the evidence people, the evidence don’t lie!!
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Herein lies the crux of our differential on fan behavior. Some, as you did, want to deny that Pruitt CAN succeed. I have seen very few if any take the position that he will succeed if he comes back, but don't accept that he can't. The evidence can support the team did not progress this year, but nothing else, certainly not that as structured they cannot moving forward. It is possible, not probable, that they could exceed average expectations next year to the same degree they fell short this year. He has succeeded in getting a lot of talent here. Nothing about Butch's tenure is relative to where we are today, except the hole Pruitt started in. Pruitt has proved he can win 8 in a row just like this years losing streak. The only absolutes I see right now is that we don't have money to spend on any risk/reward ratio based on coaches available right now as EVIDENCED by the Vandy and SC hires and the perceived path AU is taking. No way Freeze can be held as a CAN'T MISS candidate with his UM debacle. In fact if your playing the evidence game that p5 experience would have to trump his Liberty performance based on relevance, especially when you take the competition he had this year.

So, yes indeed it seems like a gross fan failure to even run the risk of damaging this class with attacks just days before early signing and the last game of the season. Do not find solace in the fact several have posted they are willing to sacrifice a FEW prospects (evidently without regard to the sacred star value) or hope for a loss of a game or even hope for a worse point differential, to support any fans agenda.

If CPF has a super secret list where our guys have talked to their guys that has some near universally accepted replacements, I think my side of this argument would sign on. Just have not seen that evidence.... Still seeing cheap shots just hours before we are asking guys to come play football here.... a five star here and a four star there could impact our program for a while, regardless of who is coaching.

edited to add.... sorry for War and lack of Peace....
 
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Joe Dirt said:
Pruitt deserves tons of blame, and like I said, he's in over his head. But Tee Martin, Jim Chaney, Jay Graham etc all just didn't forget how to coach. Even Friend is a decent coach. But every group has regressed. Screams of more than just one dude.
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Teemartin knew how to coach?? When did that happen?
 
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GVol1966 said:
I accept that some on here do believe that Pruitt can succeed, inspite of all the evidence suggesting the opposite.
I also believe there were just as many believers in Butch Jones succeeding the year before he lost every sec game and got fired mid season.
Follow the evidence people, the evidence don’t lie!!
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I've provided a lot of evidence to the contrary. It's littered around this forum. I'm not going to repost it here, because deep down I don't really believe anyone is here to have their minds changed. I also wouldn't bet a coke that Pruitt is going to be a successful HC here... I just think there's an obvious path to it, and it's not that hard. Just don't fire him. Give him one more year. Given the nature of this year and the transfer rule that's already causing massive defection around the NCAA, I think that's prudent and firing him is not. That's it.

But that's just my opinion, man.
 
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Can we just agree that if UT tries to hire another coordinator or person without P5 experience that we will go crazy on Vol Twitter like we did with
Schiano? That was epic.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Can we just agree that if UT tries to hire another coordinator or person without P5 experience that we will go crazy on Vol Twitter like we did with
Schiano? That was epic.
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No doubt will that happen but the reality of it is that's where we are as a program. No respectable coach is going to want to come to a university that is rebuilding and only gives you 3-4 years to win. By win we mean beat Bama, UF, and UGA. Beating Bama is not going to happen until we flip the roster with talent that can match theirs... I mean look at UGA and their talent and they still cant do it even when Fromm was there who was above average.
 
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BDB88 said:
No doubt will that happen but the reality of it is that's where we are as a program. No respectable coach is going to want to come to a university that is rebuilding and only gives you 3-4 years to win. By win we mean beat Bama, UF, and UGA. Beating Bama is not going to happen until we flip the roster with talent that can match theirs... I mean look at UGA and their talent and they still cant do it even when Fromm was there who was above average.
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BDB88 said:
No doubt will that happen but the reality of it is that's where we are as a program. No respectable coach is going to want to come to a university that is rebuilding and only gives you 3-4 years to win. By win we mean beat Bama, UF, and UGA. Beating Bama is not going to happen until we flip the roster with talent that can match theirs... I mean look at UGA and their talent and they still cant do it even when Fromm was there who was above average.
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This is simply not true. We have only fired one coach in our programs history after theee years and that was Dooley. Tired of seeing this false narrative. We gave Butch two more years than he deserved and it left our program in shambles. You always make a change when you see it isn’t working. And we could have Freeze or Napier tomorrow. Both would win here.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
This is simply not true. We have only fired one coach in our programs history after theee years and that was Dooley. Tired of seeing this false narrative. We gave Butch two more years than he deserved and it left our program in shambles. You always make a change when you see it isn’t working. And we could have Freeze or Napier tomorrow. Both would win here.
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Napier wouldn't.
 
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BDB88 said:
No doubt will that happen but the reality of it is that's where we are as a program. No respectable coach is going to want to come to a university that is rebuilding and only gives you 3-4 years to win. By win we mean beat Bama, UF, and UGA. Beating Bama is not going to happen until we flip the roster with talent that can match theirs... I mean look at UGA and their talent and they still cant do it even when Fromm was there who was above average.
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I don't think UT's mindset is what you are describing. UT admin and fans alike understand we are not where we want to be and it's going to take some time. I don't think anyone was expecting UT to beat Bama, UF, and UGA this year. I do think we expected to go at least 5-5 by beating USCe, Mizzou, UK, Arkansas, and Vandy and maybe pulling a win out against Auburn, A&M, or one of our three primary rivals. We were not expecting to be subjected to JG single handedly losing games over and over or getting blown out by UK and not being remotely competitive against Bama, UF, or UGA. For me, coming into the season, I expected 6-4 plus or minus 1 win and indications that progress was being made building upon last year's winning streak compiled against some middling teams but still a good accomplishment. I, and I think the AD and most fans, was willing to even extend additional lenience given Covid-19. Accordingly, if Pruitt hadn't trotted out JG over and over again after everyone in the country knew he wasn't the best option and UT hadn't been blown out by UK and won that game (which it should have) and hadn't lost to Arkansas, there is no real discussion of Pruitt being gone. He would've gotten 5-6 years to get this right as the circumstances demand additional time. But year 3 needed to look much different than this even with the Covid-19 disruptions.
 
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BDB88 said:
No doubt will that happen but the reality of it is that's where we are as a program. No respectable coach is going to want to come to a university that is rebuilding and only gives you 3-4 years to win. By win we mean beat Bama, UF, and UGA. Beating Bama is not going to happen until we flip the roster with talent that can match theirs... I mean look at UGA and their talent and they still cant do it even when Fromm was there who was above average.
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All Pruitt had to do was beat Arkansas, and KY, been competitive with the rest and showed an upward trajectory. But we get blown out at home by KY, and lose to an Arkansas team that hadn't won a conference game in 2 years with a first time, new head coach. Pruitt could be here 50 years and he's never win anything of significance. He's never been a head coach and never will be.
 
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