Alabama BB Player Arrested

[n_huffhines]

He shot a woman because she didn’t do what he wanted. That’s not lack in the household that’s “nobody is going to disrespect me”.

But yea it’s a black and white thing.

Where are you getting these details?

And how is this thread about race? Jesus.

 

[LibertyVol]

Practice systemic equality. Stop dismantling/defunding public schools (which happens far more frequently in black communities) and invest more heavily in them instead. Instead of huge corporate tax breaks and tax subsidies, make college education attainable for all, as many European countries do, further address unfair housing practices (which, yes, still exist). To name a few “general” thoughts.

I’m not convinced that reparations are appropriate. But if you read Ta-Nahasi Coates’ “The Case for Reparations,” you’ll learn more about underlying systemic issues and possible solutions.

I’m not saying don’t hold individuals like Miles accountable. I am saying that there are systemic issues that keep black Americans more impoverished in general. And frankly, that’s not really a deniable claim at this point.

Ok. Not sure I agree with all of that. But at least you have answers and it is not to do away with our system of government.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Opposing sin is not “judging” my guy.

Don't you know Vultures Lurk?

 

[JohnWardForever]

After 15 years, maybe.

15 Years? He should get the Jab.

 

[Voltopia]

15 Years? He should get the Jab.

Oh I'm not saying he should ever get parole - or whatever. Just, their minimum prison without parole period for murder in Alabama is 15 years. So "Parole Tide" won't even apply until 2039 or thereabouts. I'm surprised at the fact it's 15 years, to be honest. Oh well.

 

[JohnWardForever]

We should emulate our father and show mercy and graciousness and leave justice to the law ( and him who sits on the throne ).
That said, we are also instructed to practice "... not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" if we are called to sit in judgement of our peers. Fruit inspection is expected.
For those who believe in God, he has said he is going to give to us, like we gave to others. For me, personally, I want to excel at being merciful.

I don't think there is any question of guilt here. So that renders the "Judgement" point moot. We should all have the ability to recognize Evil, and this is it.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Ok. Not sure I agree with all of that. But at least you have answers and it is not to do away with our system of government.

Thank you for your reasonableness.

One other issue I see as an attorney (though I don’t practice in the criminal realm, but many of my friends do) is the need for criminal justice reform. There exists inequity between the races in not only punishment, but also in arrests/prosecutions. Studies have shown that white teens use illegal substances at a higher rate than black teens. Yet far more black teens are arrested and convicted, largely because police target black neighborhoods more and because the white kids have the means and access to adequate legal representation.

The result of this is far more incarcerated young black men, leading to reduced opportunities and the cycle of poverty continues…which leads to the continuation of crime, single parent homes, etc. This is what I mean by systems and cycles.

I don’t expect folks to immediately agree on a message board, but I hope that some folks, especially in the spirit of today’s holiday, will make the effort to try to see and understand these underlying issues that maybe they haven’t fully investigated prior. I think loving and caring about each other demands at least that. Hope everyone has a great, relaxing holiday.

 

[LadyVolette]

So much of this is a crutch, a weak argument. Myself a white boy who grew up without a father and a part time abusive azzhole my mother decided to sleep with, have babies who beat her, beat me. Just because. We lived in the projects when I was very young, needless to say we had nothing.
By 12 I had a job, paying my own way through life. At 14 I left home and never went back. I've made a lot of mistakes in my life, but what I didn't do was follow that same path of government dependency. I got out, you can get out. There are many success stories and it doesn't mean you have to carry a ball to be successful.
I've raised two successful fine young men who married two beautiful faithful ladies, they've given me three beautiful grandchildren. I never got rich, but I got what I need to carry me though this life and take care of my family.

My husband grew up poor in Louisiana, in a trailer, his mom on food stamps with various stepfathers who beat him, and had to provide for the family when he was 16 and dropped out… he is white.. he worked his ass off and now runs a company, when he got smacked down at every turn.. he has little to no sympathy for people who do not try or take accountability for themselves, and neither do I.. you are responsible for your success just as much as you are responsible for your failure, and nobody ever got anywhere with a victim mentality

 

[overseasorange2]

Amazing, have not seen anything about this in the news media. If it was a UT player, it would be on the front page of ESPN, 247 sports, yahoo, etc.

 

[overseasorange2]

15 Years? He should get the Jab.

Lucky for him he does not live in Texas!

 

[bigl3327]

The 'White System'?! Are you talking about the 'system' that makes these pampered, self indulgent kids millionaires if they can play a game? Or the 'system' that gives blacks preference over whites to get into college and for jobs. Or the 'system' that elected a black President, twice! No country on earth has done more for a minority in history. The fact is this country needs to address the issue that 13% of the population commits over 50% of the crime.

Since a crime is an unlawful act punishable by law, then white people actually commit roughly 70% of crimes in the United States (according to number of arrests). Yes, there is a very high rate of violent crime committed by black people in this country, but the majority of violent crimes against white people are committed by white people. Until we start looking at things as being an American issue, it won't change. Over 95% of known serial killers are white males. Over 90% of arrests made for child pornography are against white males. The majority of drug related crimes (over 50%) are committed by white people. Yet, no one is saying that these are problems in the white community that white people need to fix. We are all Americans so these things are all problems to be addressed by this country as a whole. That is where the true lack of accountability lies. Until we stop being a country divided, none of this will get better.
I would also like to point out for anyone that brings up Candace Owens that she is scamming your a$$. She is making millions by being a black mouthpiece for conservatives. Do some background history on her. Some conservatives are starting to catch on though. (I am not a conservative, nor a liberal, neither am I a Democrat or Republican)

 

[Caculator]

aroundthencaa

 

[over60vol]

University of Alabama basketball player Darius Miles among 2 charged with capital murder in shooting death on the Strip

I will never understand why the young people today think a gun is the answer to most problems out there. It doesn't matter how small the matter the first thing they go to is a gun to settle a disagreement. In a split second their lives are changed forever and the lives of their family and other's families.

 

[CardsNVols]

It’s the articulate, logical, reasonable approach that makes your argument so convincing. Especially the manner in which you address the topic of systemic racism by stating that individual racism works both ways.

The fact that you get so upset and immediately go into attack mode is illustrative.

I lay a great deal of blame on the "no man in the house rule" that many states enacted for welfare recipients back in the 60's and 70's. It damn near created a generation of fatherless homes, especially in the black community. Poor whites were hit pretty hard by it, too.

The numbers don't lie. The lack of two parent homes has just been plain bad for society.

 

[chattaboogie]

I see it didn’t take long for this to get hijacked.

 

[tn4elvis]

I don't disagree, but you have to understand the culture they come from. Too many don't have father figures, so, as Denzel Washington so aptly stated: "If a young man doesn't have a father in his home, he'll find one in the streets." I took a young man from the "hood" into our home several years ago to get him out of the hood and get him on a better life path. When there was a murder in his former neighborhood (a 13 y.o. kid shot and killed a 15 y.o. girl by mistake), I asked him what a 13 y.o. kid was doing with a gun. His reply: "We all got guns." He went on to explain that in the hood, you either ran with a gang for protection or you had a gun for protection--there was little other choice. That is the culture too many of these kids grow up in. As a result, many decent kids wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people. To compound matters, a lot of these kids have anger issues because they feel deserted by their fathers. This subject seems to be "taboo" among politicians. About the only person I have heard that points out the critical importance of this issue is Candice Owens. No one else seems to have the balls to even discuss it in a political forum. Nothing will change until the issue is addressed. White people won't touch it for fear of being called "racist". So, until the black community makes the issue a priority, nothing will change. To make matters even worse, the number of white kids growing up without fathers is increasing dramatically. So, it's not a race issue, it's an issue of family, or rather lack thereof.

Maybe one of the best post I have ever read on here. It is a family issue. These kids needs Moms and Dads in their lives so bad.

 

[1Volnation]

And they are still saying Roll Tide.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Saban would have him sit out for the first quarter against Austin Peay.

 

[ButchPlz]

I see "fund public schools more", I immediately realize the poster is an idiot. It's tripled down by the recommended reading.

It's like recommending Hitler to show the standard right wing position.

 

[CardsNVols]

I see "fund public schools more", I immediately realize the poster is an idiot. It's tripled down by the recommended reading.

It's like recommending Hitler to show the standard right wing position.

Well-funded public schools outperform lesser funded ones by every conceivable metric.

There's a lot that goes into that (local tax base), but I'm not sure what dismissing the funding of schools as the position of an "idiot" is supposed to mean.

 

[Special Ed]

Players slapping a female fan after a big loss: Alabama - 1, Tennessee - 0.
Players committing capital murder: Alabama - 1, Tennessee - 0.
I guess we can't beat 'em at everything.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Players slapping a female fan after a big loss: Alabama - 1, Tennessee - 0.
Players committing capital murder: Alabama - 1, Tennessee - 0.
I guess we can't beat 'em at everything.

I guess Ramar must have dodged his dust up within the judicial system?

 

[Gandalf]

What society are you referring to?

I’m sure this will get moved to politics, but while you’re right about much of this, I take issue with saying it’s not a race issue and it’s up to the black community to fix.

We live in a world of systems. Those systems are the primary determinant of where we end up. Yeah, there are exceptions, but “cultures” exist due to systems. White people founded this nation while operating on the notion of white supremacy and those systems arose out of that notion.

Racism, on a systemic level, is alive and well. Until we destroy those systems, it’s on white people…the system’s creators…to fix these issues. It starts by acknowledging that they exist.

Always got to love some good racist agitation in a post where none exists. BRAVO!

 

[bigl3327]

Always got to love some good racist agitation in a post where none exists. BRAVO!

I guess you would see it that way. BRAVO
When the Kitna case happened at Florida, I didn't see anybody say SO many young white men are into child pornography. Or... the Idaho murders, no one on here said SO many young white men aspire to be serial killers. How about the countless school shootings? I didn't see a single post on here about SO many young white men are mass murderers. So embarrassing for a society.
Why? Because the acts of individuals are not indicative of an entire society of people. Especially when someone's whole post was speaking about a particular race. So where does the racist agitation really lie? If you don't see an issue with the OP's statement, then you might be part of the issue.

 

[Godfatha]

Well-funded public schools outperform lesser funded ones by every conceivable metric.

There's a lot that goes into that (local tax base), but I'm not sure what dismissing the funding of schools as the position of an "idiot" is supposed to mean.

I'm for better funding of schools, provided there is reform to the schools themselves. Schools should be about preparing children for the real world, meeting the demands of the real world. If the school's focus is on that, them I am good with it. If it is just throwing good money after bad in a failing system, I am against it.

There's also an issue that throwing more money at schools will not fix, the issues at home. If a parent or parents do not value a kid's education, it is very likely that the kid will not value it either. That can be said for poor white kids as well as poor black kids.