Alabama fan fired after tweeting he was 'glad' receiver struck female Tennessee fan

[utvolpj]

Kind of what I thought too. Very possible they've been looking for a reason and this fell into their laps. They looked, saw the post about hitting women, saw another with the N word, and said "that's a wrap."

The n-word posted was from a movie.

 

[DuckinVol]

Y’all realize there’s nothing new about people complaining to employers about something an employee says in public don’t you? Obviously it wasn’t as common prior to social media because most people never commented in front of big crowds. Now, anyone can make a statement to tens of thousands.

Most of my career has seen me in a very conservative industry with a public facing position. Even when it was just magazine or television interviews, my employer would often be contacted by people who didn’t like what I said. Today it’s far more frequent, and it’s a rare month complaints aren’t made. Fortunately, those comments have always agreed with our corporate position and values, and I stay away from anything contentious on my personal social media accounts.

Over the last 35 years I’ve seen a lot of folks be demoted, lose their jobs and even lose a career they worked hard for over a comment or two. It’s not new, it didn’t begin with widespread social media and it didn’t begin with the absurd woke movement. Only thing that has changed is today everyone on social media is making public comments.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I am definitely not Woke and don’t consider this move by the company to be necessarily that.
Not sure his role in the company, but his remarks were that of an idiot. People that run businesses, and like profits, generally want to remove idiots from their organization. He raised his hand and identified himself.

JFYI, a lot of people on both sides of the issue don't know what Woke means, and have a rather distorted view as well to compound the matter. It has, some overzealous jackals, perceiving it as a bludgeon to hammer others. Thus increase resentment rather than education. And others use it as an accusatory insult out of spite. Not wishing to learn any factual information. As usual, humans gonna human.

 

[BornAndRaisedVOL!]

The n-word posted was from a movie.

I know, Blazing Saddles, and it appeared he was just repeating the line as a joke, but I don't know.

But still....when it comes to that word, it's best just to leave it alone in every way, shape, or form.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Y’all realize there’s nothing new about people complaining to employers about something an employee says in public don’t you? Obviously it wasn’t as common prior to social media because most people never commented in front of big crowds. Now, anyone can make a statement to tens of thousands.

Most of my career has seen me in a very conservative industry with a public facing position. Even when it was just magazine or television interviews, my employer would often be contacted by people who didn’t like what I said. Today it’s far more frequent, and it’s a rare month complaints aren’t made. Fortunately, those comments have always agreed with our corporate position and values, and I stay away from anything contentious on my personal social media accounts.

Over the last 35 years I’ve seen a lot of folks be demoted, lose their jobs and even lose a career they worked hard for over a comment or two. It’s not new, it didn’t begin with widespread social media and it didn’t begin with the absurd woke movement. Only thing that has changed is today everyone on social media is making public comments.

Yep. Agreed 100%.

If your company owner held a big shindig out in his expansive back yard, and you showed up, drank too much, and said something unsavory about his wife, you were toast.

The internet is amber. You know, that sticky stuff that preserves mosquitoes for a million years so some dude can come get dinosaur blood out of their beaks and decode their DNA.

We never before had amber capturing our stupidity and preserving it for others to check out later, folks who weren't even there. Imagine if everything you said floated in a bubble in the air behind you as you went about your day. Then imagine everyone else has binoculars and can read those words no matter how far away they might be.

Amber.

Trouble is, too many of us haven't yet figured this out. Somehow still think what we say evaporates into nothingness shortly after we say it, and that we won't be held responsible for being fools.

Internet version of the Darwin Awards, I guess. heh.

Go Vols!

 

[utvolpj]

I know, Blazing Saddles, and it appeared he was just repeating the line as a joke, but I don't know.

But still....when it comes to that word, it's best just to leave it alone in every way, shape, or form.

That's only true because too many people are looking to be offended and not paying attention to context. It's one of the great jokes and shocking lines in the movie. If you see the word and instantly get offended then you're part of the problem

 

[walkenvol]

You just don't understand business. There is not a single rank and file employee who is more valuable than one regular customer. This person put something out on social media. Didn't have to do it, but chose to do it. Employer can't be sure whether this is going to cost him business and in many cases an offended customer never says anything but just doesn't buy from you again. Incredibly easy call here.

Do not understand people on social media who identify themselves and then made stupid statements.

"Cancel culture" is practiced by all sides and has been for decades. (You think not, try being an out-of-wedlock mother in small town Tennessee in the 60's. We had the head majorette of our HS band get pregnant in 1965. Was never seen in town again. That's being cancelled.)

But it's not automatically bad.

Don’t know what kind of business you’re in, but I found it exponentially easier to find new customers verses finding quality employees. Maybe that’s very difficult between industries?

 

[BornAndRaisedVOL!]

That's only true because too many people are looking to be offended and not paying attention to context. It's one of the great jokes and shocking lines in the movie. If you see the word and instantly get offended then you're part of the problem

I don't disagree. And seeing the word in a quoted line from a movie doesn't offend me personally.

The only point I'm trying to make, is in the world we live in, posting something like that on social media is exceptionally foolish.

 

[ohnnyvol1]

He deserved it for acting like an idiot on Twitter.

i dislike Bammer's as much as anyone,but i can not get excited about a man losing his job! No matter how stupid his comments are.

 

[gr82batnvol]

If you’re gonna say stupid **** online (everyone does) don’t have your employer in your bio. Jmo

Exactly

 

[hog88]

Don’t know what kind of business you’re in, but I found it exponentially easier to find new customers verses finding quality employees. Maybe that’s very difficult between industries?

With social media today you can't have such a public embarrassment on staff and if I'm not mistaken this guy was in a management position.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

I'm sure Waffle House can find another 3rd shift cook.

 

[OrangeBloodinTN]

I'm the HR manager for our company. We would not hire a person who tweeted what he did. Glad he has other options.

Great! On top of that, he was an executive. That bears even more responsibility than an every day employee. A leadership role should be someone who exhibits leadership qualities on and off the field.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

I don't like alabama fans and yeah it's a really dick thing to say, but I don't want someone to get fired...

Geeze people these days are so soft and companies are so afraid of the cry baby movements its ridiculous. If I owned that company I'd laugh and say what is Twitter and why should I care.

F*** that noise. People think they can say whatever they want, decency and responsibility be damned. Grown men acting like 2 year olds running around throwing s**t at the walls. Words matter and actions have consequences. Glad he faced some.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

Weak move by the company, but that is how soft our society has gotten! What the guy said was distasteful but he don’t deserve to lose his livelihood.

This country better hope we never get invaded by one of the big 3 because they will roll thru us like Moses thru the Red Sea! The only advantage the U.S. has is technology.

What’s soft is grown men thinking they don’t have to take responsibility for anything they say or do. Bunch of men in their 30s, 40s, and 50s who don’t have the maturity or sense of responsibility an 8-year-old kid should have. Our ancestors would be ashamed.

 

[realmenwearorange]

I’m pretty sure what he said is protected by the first amendment unless they are in a fire at will state

It's not his employers job to protect 1st amendment rights, that falls squarely on the government. he said what he wanted to say and wasn't arrested or prosecuted for it, 1st amendment rights are still intact here.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Kind of what I thought too. Very possible they've been looking for a reason and this fell into their laps. They looked, saw the post about hitting women, saw another with the N word, and said "that's a wrap."

The entire reason you interview someone for a job is to discern as much as possible about the person. Are they qualified? Will they be a good employee? Do you feel like they can be a part of a team? Do you see them being an asset or a liability? Most times, because there are so many polished BS'ers roaming the earth, it's very hard to discern everything that's important to know from an interview process. But if the person said something similar in the interview, you'd end the interview and not hire them.

So why is it different if the only thing that's different is that they initially slipped through the interview process and got the job? They eventually revealed who they are, and had they done that initially, you wouldn't have hired them and no one would have had the slightest problem with it. But because he did it after he was hired, people say it's cancel culture.

Tennessee in a No Cause firing State... Hell he may have said fire me over it... Media will run with it what sells clicks. Stupid Comment but I will be willing to bet that it is not the first of a long line of statements made at work or in social settings over a period of time. Fans have a tendency to be Toxic about their Teams and wear their heart on their sleeves at work and in social settings no matter whether a win or a lost ... These idiots do need to be cancelled out. It's sports I get your passion but get over it and quit feeling that a fan's opinion matters. Just Stupid and an Adult to boot. Alabama Fans feel they are entitled every year.

 

[DynaLo]

The n-word posted was from a movie.

In today’s hyper polarized society that doesn’t matter. Don’t even try to sing or quote rap lyrics if you aren’t a part of that lived experience.
Employer’s are demanded to have a no tolerance policy in place and all issues that cross the new rules must be dealt with especially those in the public eye.
We, as a society, have been pushed back to the worst parts of the 50’s & 60’s and it’s even worse now due to social media shining an immediate spotlight on anything and everything.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

The n-word posted was from a movie.

Doesn't matter where it came from, if you repeat it means you like it, and condone what it implies. I have seen how what I'd call shy bigots sneak that and other words into use, expecting to get away with doing so, under the guise either oops or contextual excuse. I hope by some miracle, CFB zeal will crowd out the Red Summer - Opelousas mentality of far too many people. The interesting thing to me is, sports events like CFB should be an ideal venue for people sharing a common ground (fans of their team) to realize how it could potentially create unity, and humanize a community or region rather than demonize others. Oh, nevermind, it's just a pipe dream on my part.

 

[perico]

You're speaking in hypotheticals. I already mentioned I don't support cancel culture in almost every situation. Clearly that assumes that there are some scenarios when I would support it. Making a dumb statement online is not one of those situations.

When did I say physical attacks on women don't meet my standards?

What the company did wasn't just because of what he said about hitting a woman. That was stupid, but he could say that it was in the heat of the moment, and might have gotten away with it (though I believe the business was correct in firing him just for that). What happened was that they noticed he listed them as his employer on his twitter account viewable for the whole world to see. Next they checked his social media accounts and... surprise surprise... dude had been publicly dropping the n-word in reference to people of different skin color. Voila. That right there will get you terminated because there is absolutely nobody that would want their company name on the page of a person who advocates punching women or use racist terms in public.

 

[rltw1974]

What the company did wasn't just because of what he said about hitting a woman. That was stupid, but he could say that it was in the heat of the moment, and might have gotten away with it (though I believe the business was correct in firing him just for that). What happened was that they noticed he listed them as his employer on his twitter account viewable for the whole world to see. Next they checked his social media accounts and... surprise surprise... dude had been publicly dropping the n-word in reference to people of different skin color. Voila. That right there will get you terminated because there is absolutely nobody that would want their company name on the page of a person who advocates punching women or use racist terms in public.

Well with that new information, I will walk back my original comment on this matter.

 

[Kristy*]

It’s called accountability. What happened to personal responsibility in our country? So instead of blaming the individual, we blame everybody else?

What about disclaimers? "The views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent." What he said was stupid. He wasn't representing his company when he said it. He didn't post it on a company forum. It was on a personal account.

I guess I'm not a fan of canceling people. We've all done and said stupid stuff. Give him a chance to apologize, grow, and move forward.

 

[Carp]

What the company did wasn't just because of what he said about hitting a woman. That was stupid, but he could say that it was in the heat of the moment, and might have gotten away with it (though I believe the business was correct in firing him just for that). What happened was that they noticed he listed them as his employer on his twitter account viewable for the whole world to see. Next they checked his social media accounts and... surprise surprise... dude had been publicly dropping the n-word in reference to people of different skin color. Voila. That right there will get you terminated because there is absolutely nobody that would want their company name on the page of a person who advocates punching women or use racist terms in public.

The N word (which he didn't actually use the full word), was a quote from Blazing Saddles. Unless I missed where he said it somewhere else. Though in this world of PC and wokeness, I certainly understand how quoting that particular line in the movie would be seen as faux pas (even though the movie was a satire about racism in Old West movies).

Again, I understand why a company makes the decision to fire him. What I don't agree with, is people actively trying to get him fired.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Can I just make a suggestion to say, the company might have wanted to let him go anyway, and this was just the opportunity. Also that if he had been a key valued employee they likely would have just buried it and at most smacked his keyboard hand? In any case he showed poor judgement I wouldn't trust him to work for me either.

 

[EaglesVols91]

i dislike Bammer's as much as anyone,but i can not get excited about a man losing his job! No matter how stupid his comments are.

I’m certainly not excited for it and I do feel bad about it, but actions have consequences. If you want to act like an idiot on the internet then at least do it under a fake name, not your real one