Alabama or OSU in the BCSCG?

Alabama or OSU in the BCSCG?

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#52
#52
Ulysees E. McGill said:
Alabama would chew anybody else in the nation up and spit them out, and you know it. They are the only team that has a legitimate shot at beating LSU.
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We have seen that game. LSU won. We have not seen OSU vs. LSU. We don't know who will win that one.
 
#53
#53
If you guys think Okie st or Stanford is better than Bama, then nothing I can say is going to change your mind, because you live in fantasyland. They are both the team makeup approximation of Arky. Both bama and LSU destroyed Arky. Anyways that is what is going to happen, so whatever. All this being said I hate the crap out of both of em, so whatever to me too. No problems.:hi:
 
#56
#56
Better resume? Bama played and beat everybody just as bad as LSU did outside of Oregon and they didn't lose to Iowa State
 
#57
#57
Ulysees E. McGill said:
Alabama would chew anybody else in the nation up and spit them out, and you know it. They are the only team that has a legitimate shot at beating LSU.
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Have you ever heard the expression "that's why they play the game"?

When determining who should go, there is ONE thing certain, and one thing speculation.

Certain: OSU has defeated more ranked teams, and more teams with winning records.

Speculation: Alabama would kill everybody in the entire country by 100 points because they are Alabama, and that's just what Alabama does.
 
#61
#61
Ulysees E. McGill said:
Yeah, but they didn't.
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You answered "yeah". Why? Your whole argument is predicated on throwing resumes out and only looking at who passes the eyeball test. Would beating the lowly Iowa State have made OSU a better team? No. So why would you be ok with them going in that scenario?
 
#62
#62
I seen Wisconsin/Mich.State earlier this year too. They played again and it was awesome.
 
#63
#63
SamRebel35 said:
Have you ever heard the expression "that's why they play the game"?

When determining who should go, there is ONE thing certain, and one thing speculation.

Certain: OSU has defeated more ranked teams, and more teams with winning records.

Speculation: Alabama would kill everybody in the entire country by 100 points because they are Alabama, and that's just what Alabama does.
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Certain..OSU lost to IOWA FREAKIN ST. Bama lost to the #1 team in the nation. By a whisker.
 
#66
#66
Ulysees E. McGill said:
Certain..OSU lost to IOWA FREAKIN ST. Bama lost to the #1 team in the nation. By a whisker.
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Alabama had them at home on national television. If they can't get it done there, I doubt they can get it done in New Orleans.

Again, who cares if OSU lost to Iowa State? They deserve a shot. Take your SEC blinders off.
 
#67
#67
PowerT83 said:
So your saying the Big 12 is better than the SEC? Ole Miss would of had winning record in the Big 12
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If this is your argument, then we should just throw out the whole concept of a top 25, and automatically crown the SEC winner as NC.
 
#68
#68
SamRebel35 said:
You answered "yeah". Why? Your whole argument is predicated on throwing resumes out and only looking at who passes the eyeball test. Would beating the lowly Iowa State have made OSU a better team? No. So why would you be ok with them going in that scenario?
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Because by losing to IOWA STINKING ST. They proved that they can lose to a CRAPPY football team from a CRAPPY conference. That's why.
 
#71
#71
Ulysees E. McGill said:
Nobody should be allowed to play for the NC that loses to their respective conferences version of vanderbilt.
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Let's check the timeline here.

Morning of November 18, 2011 - Oklahoma State awakens and finds out that their women's basketball head coach and assistant coach were killed in a plane crash overnight.

Evening of November 18, 2011 - Oklahoma State is playing a road game against a conference opponent.

Far be it from me to make excuses on someone else's behalf, but I think that Oklahoma State sleepwalking through a game under those circumstances is a much different story than LSU/Bammer.

Now, with that said, I think this is what's going to happen by tomorrow night.

Computer polls: Oklahoma State was either 2nd or 3rd in every computer poll. Alabama was as well. Oklahoma was in the top-6 in six of seven computer polls. It's very possible that Oklahoma State jumps Alabama in the computers; Bammer had a tenuous lead in the first place, and this might push Oklahoma State into a solid second in the computer polls.

USA Today: Oklahoma State was 5th, and undoubtedly had votes siphoned off by Stanford, Houston, and Virginia Tech. VT and Houston losing would push those votes into Oklahoma State and Stanford. And with Stanford being idle and Oklahoma State pounding a very good team, I can see Oklahoma State ending up 3rd or possibly 2nd in the USA Today poll.

Harris: Same as USA Today.

Overall human polls: Don't forget that human voters can be persuaded in a way that computers cannot be. It's very possible that, in order to ensure an LSU/Oklahoma State matchup, we'll see ballots that have LSU #1, Oklahoma State #2, and maybe Stanford or Oregon #3 or #4, with Alabama coming in at #5 (or lower). The way the human polls are set up in the BCS, it's possible for one or two people to manipulate the entire thing to achieve their preferred outcome. If I remember correctly, there was some chicanery with the (split) 1997 national championship polls, so....

I think Oklahoma State ends up #2.
 
#72
#72
DarthVisor said:
Alabama had them at home on national television. If they can't get it done there, I doubt they can get it done in New Orleans.

Again, who cares if OSU lost to Iowa State? They deserve a shot. Take your SEC blinders off.
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So them losing to a CRAPPY team means nothing? Take your hatred of Bama blinders off. I hate them , but they are the better 1 loss team, because their loss was to a better team.
 
#73
#73
Ulysees E. McGill said:
So them losing to a CRAPPY team means nothing? Take your hatred of Bama blinders off. I hate them , but they are the better 1 loss team, because their loss was to a better team.
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It means they had a bad game. They may well be the better one-loss team, but how do we know OSU wouldn't beat LSU? That's why they play the game.

Also, let us not forget that OSU has a better resume.
 
#75
#75
Ulysees E. McGill said:
So them losing to a CRAPPY team means nothing? Take your hatred of Bama blinders off. I hate them , but they are the better 1 loss team, because their loss was to a better team.
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Were their wins against better teams?

Look, this isn't an either/or here; the whole picture has to be considered, not what people want to cherry-pick as conducive to their argument.
 
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