Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[SpaceCoastVol]

If we're going to give free college for every single person why does anybody need give more than their 35 to 45%?

If they have free college they can get a degree and becoming a Millionaire or Billionaire?

But we are going to outlaw billionaires.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

No one deserves to be a billionaire. No one has worked that much harder. If I cured cancer, solved world hunger, and stopped all wars, I still wouldn't deserve that. Why? Because, wealth IS scarce, being off the gold standard didn't change that.

Oh.... my........ God.......

 

[RikidyBones]

zaghh,

Keep your expectations low and try to avoid frustration. It's the same as trying to convince a person a thousand years ago that the Earth is not flat.

98% of scientists thought the Earth was flat at one point.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yes, because clearly from this conversation the one thing you took away is that I want to be rich.

Try poverty. I dare you.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Say it again, louder, for the people in back!

I worked in Jefferson County. We'd get more money in from the state for resources for our students. Apparently, those resources were always another Central Office administrator to tell us to do more with less.

Which is why we need LESS government intervention in our lives, not MORE. This really is easy.

 

[Carl Pickens]

My wife and I did just that every year for a 6 week period during our busy season for a few years. Maybe we can sue each other.

What kind of business did you have?

 

[RikidyBones]

Have you taken a statistical methods course? Samples are representative. So Bob in Kansas probably got asked or someone akin to him. If a sample is representative than yes, there may be variations of you add in 100k more people but it is unlikely to be significantly different than 1k similarly polled persons.

When was the last poll you saw with that many people? That's why there are margins of errors.

My degree is in marketing with a focus on statistical marketing. Meaning analysis of polls, focus groups, etc. You know, the nerds that give the quantitative data that shows brown toothpaste is a bad idea? Isolated polls aren't worth the internet space they occupy. You should know that. Me going to the KKK rally to poll 500 people about affirmative action wont give me a representation of the population. Allow me to refer you to CNNs polls on who was favored to win the presidency. Their polls were too isolated. How do I know that? Trump won.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

What would you consider a “high” salary. Let’s say what do you think you would need to earn to live in a $400k house, drive a new $35-$40k car say every 6 years, and raise 2 kids using the public education system and funding college?

This is easy. He'll say nobody needs to live in a $450K house.

 

[luthervol]

OK so at what point should someone be forced to give up any additional wealth? You have just said a billion is too much. Let's define the limit. And why.

That's what the graduated tax system was always used to address.
The limit will be defined by society and will fluctuate over time. You have already seen this. Top percent at one point was 90%, society said that was to high; now it's at 37%, society is saying that's to low. 70% seems to be where we are headed next and may be a fairly good happy medium for now.

 

[C-south]

This is easy. He'll say nobody needs to live in a $450K house.

And cardboard will be banned

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

A flat tax is dumb because you’re jealous that a lot of people are gonna be more successful than you?who are you to determine what 10% would be to someone?

feelz. HE has the feelz.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Anybody that can make $80,000 a year right out of college can start putting 20% of that in an S&P 500 fund, and retire with a few million before age 65.

He doesn't deserve that though.

 

[NorthDallas40]

That's what the graduated tax system was always used to address.
The limit will be defined by society and will fluctuate over time. You have already seen this. Top percent at one point was 90%, society said that was to high; now it's at 37%, society is saying that's to low. 70% seems to be where we are headed next and may be a fairly good happy medium for now.

care to make a bet and see if you can earn that money of mine you’re trying to just steal?

 

[luthervol]

98% of scientists thought the Earth was flat at one point.

And they realized they where wrong long before the general public. To ignore the best science of the day is foolish.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You will be dead and gone before you see a billionaire taxed at 70%+. I don't think it will ever happen.

He'll certainly never see billionaires PAY 70%

 

[C-south]

That's what the graduated tax system was always used to address.
The limit will be defined by society and will fluctuate over time. You have already seen this. Top percent at one point was 90%, society said that was to high; now it's at 37%, society is saying that's to low. 70% seems to be where we are headed next and may be a fairly good happy medium for now.

It’s not society it’s dims that think they deserve to take a large portion of what they had no part of earning. Why? Who the hell knows. Maybe a mental disorder or being exposed to an environment that rewarded failure. There’s no rational reason to take 90%, 70%, or 37% of what someone earned regardless of how much it is.

 

[luthervol]

care to make a bet and see if you can earn that money of mine you’re trying to just steal?

Sure. I bet that within the next ten years the top bracket is 70%.
I'll double down on us having national health care.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Anybody that can make $80,000 a year right out of college can start putting 20% of that in an S&P 500 fund, and retire with a few million before age 65.

We’re paying engineers and comp sci kids $70-75ish I think right now with just a BS/BA.

I’m gonna guess he has no idea what “real money” is. Not intending to throw shade just an observation based on about three more decades of life experiences.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Sure. I bet that within the next ten years the top bracket is 70%.
I'll double down on us having national health care.

Pick your wager homie! This is easy money!

 

[1972 Grad]

What kind of business did you have?

Greenhouses and flower shop. Spring season from mid-April to Memorial Day is a b!tch. From Thanksgiving until Christmas slightly less bad. I also had rental property , but that didn't take up much of my time. I hired out any repairs because I didn't have time. I just collected rent for the most part.

 

[C-south]

And they realized they where wrong long before the general public. To ignore the best science of the day is foolish.

In that case I’ll assume you’re a flat earther.

 

[RikidyBones]

Also Zachary, allow me to provide some anecdotal second hand experience. My wifes family is straight out of England. Lovely people and were gracious hosts when we went to London. I am capitalizing this so you dont miss it. FREE HEALTHCARE DOES NOT EXEMPT YOU FROM MEDICAL DEBT.

What do I mean by that? My wifes cousin got a herniated disc. He could not work. Because it wasnt life threatening, the soonest surgery appointment was an entire year. If he wanted to get it fixed, he could go private. I think you can imagine that private is not cheap. So we have two options:

Go into debt waiting for your soonest appointment in a years time in massive pain
or
Go into debt by getting the repair in the private sector.

These are middle class, hard working people. This was in 2014. They aren't even close to recovering. So if you think it eliminates debt, think again. Also worth noting is that England is a much smaller country and is not in a great political time in their history right now because of these policies. Before you spout off about free this and that, go talk to the commoner from countries that have attempted this.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

She's one and done.

She will grow old in the House. I'm telling you she is herpes.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

And they realized they where wrong long before the general public. To ignore the best science of the day is foolish.

The best science of the day today says Democrats are sucking worst now than just a week ago.

 

[RikidyBones]

And they realized they where wrong long before the general public. To ignore the best science of the day is foolish.

Depends on where we are on that timeline. You assume we are on the discovery portion but could be smack in the middle of the wrong portion. Fun thing about the future, you never know what we may discover.

This isnt me giving on opinion on global warming but rather the **** argument of "but science says" Could it be true? Sure. Could it be false? Definitely.