Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Smokeyone said:
I really like living in east TN now. It's a fresh return to civilization after living in the quasi 3rd world shithole that my little slice of rural GA had become. Jobs, schools without gang/drug problems, news without murder investigations, it's nice to live in a civilized area.
I watched my little town of 6,000 go from a black mayberry to a shithole in less than a decade. Same demographics, same families and same economic situation, went from a place to raise a child to borderline child abuse putting them in public schools. I lived in a great older mixed race neighborhood that crashed and burned when Democrats destroyed the housing market. Saw decent schools ruined by common core and teachers unions. I saw strong manufacturing jobs head out of country because of taxes and the protection of NAFTA.

Hope and change alright. I lost the value of a house and count myself fortunate at the opportunity to abandon that wasteland. I just wish some of the folks I went to school with had the option to outrun liberal politics. Turning that town over to those riding Obama's coattails was uncontionable.
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You have to give the black folks some credit as "real estate procurement experts." They move into a neighborhood, and drive the home values down to the point that all of their friends can afford to join them.
 
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1972 Grad said:
You have to give the black folks some credit as "real estate procurement experts." They move into a neighborhood, and drive the home values down to the point that all of their friends can afford to join them.
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It wasn't that. They were there before 2006. The thing that changed was politics. A well intentioned liberal (Barney Frank) saw a way to make his boyfriend more money while "helping those that couldn't afford a house get one" and killed the housing market. When credit was widely available but not able to be paid back it crashed housing. That plus Obama policy (anti police, anti personnel responsibility, anti American) saw an influx of gangs from Atlanta and Augusta to the town and made it unsafe for everyone. Those that could moved, put their kids in private schools, or segregated themselves into the country or joined a gang/took up the ghetto life regardless of race.

Folks that were policed with peer pressure and parenting took over. Police "reform" made the town open to predators, and they thrived. Meth became the main product manufactured and gang violence ruled.

I lived in the community off and on since 1988 and never saw race an issue. Today it is an overriding issue in my choice of housing, where my child is educated, the community I choose to live in. I went from colorblind and happy to seeing the reality of liberals in race and religion (muslim) can do to a colorblind society when they get power.

Trump isn't a great man. He wasn't my first or second pick. But he was so much better than the alternative it was scary. Now AOC and a small group of firebrands want to win the race to the bottom and anyone in their way is a racist, old, and out of touch. They want an animal farm meets logan's run dystopia. I just hope east TN can hang on till my daughter can find the next hiding place
 
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Smokeyone said:
It wasn't that. They were there before 2006. The thing that changed was politics. A well intentioned liberal (Barney Frank) saw a way to make his boyfriend more money while "helping those that couldn't afford a house get one" and killed the housing market. When credit was widely available but not able to be paid back it crashed housing. That plus Obama policy (anti police, anti personnel responsibility, anti American) saw an influx of gangs from Atlanta and Augusta to the town and made it unsafe for everyone. Those that could moved, put their kids in private schools, or segregated themselves into the country or joined a gang/took up the ghetto life regardless of race.

Folks that were policed with peer pressure and parenting took over. Police "reform" made the town open to predators, and they thrived. Meth became the main product manufactured and gang violence ruled.

I lived in the community off and on since 1988 and never saw race an issue. Today it is an overriding issue in my choice of housing, where my child is educated, the community I choose to live in. I went from colorblind and happy to seeing the reality of liberals in race and religion (muslim) can do to a colorblind society when they get power.

Trump isn't a great man. He wasn't my first or second pick. But he was so much better than the alternative it was scary. Now AOC and a small group of firebrands want to win the race to the bottom and anyone in their way is a racist, old, and out of touch. They want an animal farm meets logan's run dystopia. I just hope east TN can hang on till my daughter can find the next hiding place
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This is a gentleman that I would live to sit down and share a bottle of Blanton's with. Smokey, name the place and I will make time.
 
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Smokeyone said:
You mean progress?
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"Progress" is defined differently by different people.

Gentrification is a fascinating topic to me for a variety of reasons. When a neighborhood is in a rough state, people will bemoan the current state it is in, talk about how nobody will invest in the neighborhood, etc. When the neighborhood starts to revitalize, people bemoan how it's more expensive and "different" it is than it used to be. So...what is it exactly that anti-gentrifiers want? The neighborhood to get cleaned up, but it stays dirt cheap and exactly the same as it was before? How exactly are you going to get that outcome?

Also, it's funny how nobody wants it to further gentrify once they move in. A good buddy of mine bought a house a couple years ago in a heavily gentrified part of town. There previously was no housing on this parcel of land; now there are 20-odd houses, including his. Now, right beside his house, the same developer that built his house is putting in a couple of rows of townhouses. He's pissed, thinks there are "too many" people living there now, and hates the "greedy developer." I told him there were probably a ton of people who thought that same thing when he moved in. :)
 
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05_never_again said:
"Progress" is defined differently by different people.

Gentrification is a fascinating topic to me for a variety of reasons. When a neighborhood is in a rough state, people will bemoan the current state it is in, talk about how nobody will invest in the neighborhood, etc. When the neighborhood starts to revitalize, people bemoan how it's more expensive and "different" it is than it used to be. So...what is it exactly that anti-gentrifiers want? The neighborhood to get cleaned up, but it stays dirt cheap and exactly the same as it was before? How exactly are you going to get that outcome?

Also, it's funny how nobody wants it to further gentrify once they move in. A good buddy of mine bought a house a couple years ago in a heavily gentrified part of town. There previously was no housing on this parcel of land; now there are 20-odd houses, including his. Now, right beside his house, the same developer that built his house is putting in a couple of rows of townhouses. He's pissed, thinks there are "too many" people living there now, and hates the "greedy developer." I told him there were probably a ton of people who thought that same thing when he moved in. :)
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We see this constantly.

People want cheap. Cheap means density. People dont want density, they want things to stay the same, while changing.

Gentrification has always been a chicken or the egg argument. It's impossible to put a line to it and say this is fine but this isnt.

If it's ok for houses to be 250k how do you stop someone from buying or selling at 300k?
 
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Smokeyone said:
I am still adjusting to living in Maryville. Trading traffic for safety was the second best decision I have ever made
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Well, when we come to K'ville we stay with my MIL. She lives off Alcoa Hwy. I'll give you a shout next time I'm headed that way.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, it brings money and jobs. On the other hand, where there are winners, there must also be losers, and people get priced out and displaced.
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Nashville which is run by liberals is gentrifying at an amazing pace which is pushing the economically disatvatnged out to the surrounding counties. There are 3-4 newly built/being built low income apartment complexes in Gallatin alone.
 
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hog88 said:
Nashville which is run by liberals is gentrifying at an amazing pace which is pushing the economically disatvatnged out to the surrounding counties. There are 3-4 newly built/being built low income apartment complexes in Gallatin alone.
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Good for you Sumner Countians. It is about time you got to know the undesirables!
 
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Smokeyone said:
It wasn't that. They were there before 2006. The thing that changed was politics. A well intentioned liberal (Barney Frank) saw a way to make his boyfriend more money while "helping those that couldn't afford a house get one" and killed the housing market. When credit was widely available but not able to be paid back it crashed housing. That plus Obama policy (anti police, anti personnel responsibility, anti American) saw an influx of gangs from Atlanta and Augusta to the town and made it unsafe for everyone. Those that could moved, put their kids in private schools, or segregated themselves into the country or joined a gang/took up the ghetto life regardless of race.

Folks that were policed with peer pressure and parenting took over. Police "reform" made the town open to predators, and they thrived. Meth became the main product manufactured and gang violence ruled.

I lived in the community off and on since 1988 and never saw race an issue. Today it is an overriding issue in my choice of housing, where my child is educated, the community I choose to live in. I went from colorblind and happy to seeing the reality of liberals in race and religion (muslim) can do to a colorblind society when they get power.

Trump isn't a great man. He wasn't my first or second pick. But he was so much better than the alternative it was scary. Now AOC and a small group of firebrands want to win the race to the bottom and anyone in their way is a racist, old, and out of touch. They want an animal farm meets logan's run dystopia. I just hope east TN can hang on till my daughter can find the next hiding place
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I'm offended by @1972 Grad statement but I'll let it ride. The main point as you point out are liberal policies. The policy is colorblind to black or white but race/racism is the pulley most times with liberals that give these ideas traction.

Funny you should mention police reform. We have seen an increase in crime in Nashville and because of a couple high profile incidents involving officer shootings the liberals have used that as an opportunity to have an Oversight Board. Ultimately I fear this will be a way to control the police department but more than that they have been given a budget that they will feel pressured to use. Additionally Nashville has job openings in the department that is already understaffed with a growing population. This is worrisome. Liberals...smh.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I'm offended by @1972 Grad statement but I'll let it ride. The main point as you point out are liberal policies. The policy is colorblind to black or white but race/racism is the pulley most times with liberals that give these ideas traction.

Funny you should mention police reform. We have seen an increase in crime in Nashville and because of a couple high profile incidents involving officer shootings the liberals have used that as an opportunity to have an Oversight Board. Ultimately I fear this will be a way to control the police department but more than that they have been given a budget that they will feel pressured to use. Additionally Nashville has job openings in the department that is already understaffed with a growing population. This is worrisome. Liberals...smh.
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I am sure some were offended by my statement. Why don't you tell me that there has been no white flight from some areas, and property values have not deteriorated because of it? When property values went down, tell me that lower classes of people didn't move in, and create a downward spiral ? Argue the point that I made, instead of just getting offended. People don't want an honest debate of the facts.[/QUOTE]
 
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BreatheUT said:
I'm offended by @1972 Grad statement but I'll let it ride. The main point as you point out are liberal policies. The policy is colorblind to black or white but race/racism is the pulley most times with liberals that give these ideas traction.

Funny you should mention police reform. We have seen an increase in crime in Nashville and because of a couple high profile incidents involving officer shootings the liberals have used that as an opportunity to have an Oversight Board. Ultimately I fear this will be a way to control the police department but more than that they have been given a budget that they will feel pressured to use. Additionally Nashville has job openings in the department that is already understaffed with a growing population. This is worrisome. Liberals...smh.
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For the last 30 years, Metro has had constant open recruitment for police officers. Things aren't any different than before.

The Police Oversight Board has three former policemen, a forensic scientist who testifies for the Attorney General, two high priced attorneys from white shoe firms and others from corporations. They constitute a majority of the Board. Not a radical "F the Police" bunch a people there.
 
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