Aliens and UFO's- Is the truth out there?

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Offset Eye said:
Interestingly, I watched another recent Joe Rogan podcast where he interviewed Edward Snowden. Snowden said he had access to Top Secret information across every agency in the U.S. Government that dates back decades, and that he specifically searched for information pertaining to aliens and spacecraft. He found absolutely nothing.
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Proof.

No aliens.

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marcusluvsvols said:
I never really had a position 1 way or the other until recently.

If you can watch the videos from the US Navy pilots off the coast of California...and then in the 2 incidents off the east coast (barely)...with both radar lock, live camera feed, and IR...then read the official government statements that say "we dont know what the hell they are...sometimes in groups of 15...that can hover completely still for 3 and 4 hours at a time, be in the same area on radar for 10 to 12 hours a time (no vehicle on earth can do EITHER)...then watch the "objects" accelerate. INSTANTLY from a dead stop to many many thousands of mph, which a human body could never stand the G forces of...then listen to Joe Rogans podcast where the wing commander talks for over an hour about exactly what happened ...if yall dont believe that then you are just being willfully ignorant. Period.

The wing commander gave a frame of reference for what happened when he dropped down from about 10k feet to try and engage the "vehicle" and it went from a dead standstill to completely out of camera range and radar range in a fraction of a second...he said an SR71 blackbird travelling at Mach3 plus would take OVER A MINUTE to travel completely out of the camera frame. This craft did it in ABOUT HALF A SECOND. Any of yall wanna try to calculate how fast that would be travelling? About 120x mach3..2200mph...my math says that's 264,000 mph...AVERAGE...but it left from a dead standstill and AVERAGED 264,000mph...wonder how many times the force of gravity that put on both the craft and anyone or anything inside it???

The pilot who was in command has met with Congress and other Feds to discuss what happened. These craft have no heat signature from a propulsion source...not human engineering...and ACTIVELY jammed our radars everytime so we couldnt get missile lock on them. They weren't in any way afraid of our pilots flying fully armed F18 super Hornets. Because their technology is so far beyond what we have on earth that we cant touch them.

These arent loonies. These arent crazy people. These are highly respected lifelong fighter pilots in all 3 major events and they all encountered craft with the same basic characteristics that seem to be able to manipulate gravity to power their crafts. INSTANT acceleration to speeds where we couldnt hit them with any projectile weapon in the US arsenal, because their craft are orders of magnitude faster than bullets, rockets, or missiles.

Go watch the videos of our radar and black and white camera footage. I highly recommend the Joe Rogan podcast that has the pilot in charge of the incident off Cali because he explains step by step what happened in the video and what all of the readings from each instrument are as well as parameters and frame of referemce.

If there are craft flying off BOTH COASTS which have technology centuries in the future of what humans now have...how can that not be "aliens"??? If the pilots who were there and the US government says that we dont possess technology that is even able to EXPLAIN HOW those craft can do what they do....how do you explain that away???

I am a Bible believing Christian by the way. Aliens coming here dont bother my beliefs a bit though...God never said we were alone or unique. I am not scared of aliens either...their tech is so far beyond ours that If they wanted us or this planet they would have already taken it...there is nothing we could do to stop them.


Watch this. Wake up
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I was intrigued by this story 1 month ago. David Favor memories and statements of this event are not confirmed by many military people that were involved in the military exercises during this time. It takes about 15 minutes on Google to understand Favor’s story has been manipulated by himself and handlers for financial and other motives. Don’t be gullible.
 
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I don't want to turn this into a religious debate or anything but here's my stance on Christianity. Assuming that all the events of the Bible took place exactly as they are written, and God absolutely is as Christians describe him, which is all-knowing, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, righteous, "perfect", etc. Then the whole thing falls apart from the very beginning. Why? Because if you are to believe these characteristics of God, then you have to believe that before God ever created mankind, he already knew that Satan would tempt Eve. He already knew that she and Adam would fall from grace, introducing sin into the world. That single event, according to scripture, is what officially put us as human beings "on the clock." It's the single event that birthed SOOOO much tragedy, suffering, abhorrent acts of vile, despicable cruelty. It's the single event that introduced mortality, which has given way to sickness, suffering, death, etc.....and I'll be damned if God didn't go ahead and go through with it anyway. Now, here's my question. Does it make ANY logical sense to you, that a God that possesses the characteristics that Christians profess him to have, would have willingly gone through with creating mankind WITH the knowledge that it was all going to lead to this?? That doesn't seem very merciful to me at all. The merciful thing to have done was to never create us in the first place. The logical and just thing to have done was to say "you know what, maybe this isn't such a good idea."

Or I could just quote George Carlin when he said "As soon as they introduced a talking snake, I knew it was bull$hit."
 
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TVOLS said:
First Contact? Something in Space is Sending Earth Signals Like Clockwork, Scientists Don’t Know Why
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That's very intresting. I doubt it's aliens though. The power require to send a detectable signal that distance(half a billion light years) is absurd. We're talking pulsar levels of output. If that is coming from a civilization I'm pretty sure we don't want to meet them. FRB events are really cool. A repeating one even more so. But the sheer amount of energy involved makes them unlikely to be evidence of alien life.
 
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My take (not that any asked for it), is if aliens did exist, the odds of them finding Earth in such a massive Universe would be like finding a needle in haystack the size of Iowa. And that's if they even have the ability or motivation to get here. Even traveling at light speed, the next closest solar system is 4.5 years away. With billions of galaxies each containing billion of stars/planets, the sheer odds of another species finding Earth are mind blowingly small.
 
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Carp said:
My take (not that any asked for it), is if aliens did exist, the odds of them finding Earth in such a massive Universe would be like finding a needle in haystack the size of Iowa. And that's if they even have the ability or motivation to get here. Even traveling at light speed, the next closest solar system is 4.5 years away. With billions of galaxies each containing billion of stars/planets, the sheer odds of another species finding Earth are mind blowingly small.
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Based out current knowledge and technology, that tracks. But, it's hard to say what something far more advanced than us could do, or if we'd even recognize what it was, if we saw it. We have FTL designs that work on paper. We just can't power/build them.

I will say the chances of aliens existing somewhere in the universe, is all but certain. We know life occurred here. The chances of it only happening once, in a universe this big/old, are vanishingly small. It may be so far away, we'll never find it. But, it would be far more inexplicable for us to be alone than not. The real question is how often do advanced civilizations occur?
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I don't want to turn this into a religious debate or anything but here's my stance on Christianity. Assuming that all the events of the Bible took place exactly as they are written, and God absolutely is as Christians describe him, which is all-knowing, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, righteous, "perfect", etc. Then the whole thing falls apart from the very beginning. Why? Because if you are to believe these characteristics of God, then you have to believe that before God ever created mankind, he already knew that Satan would tempt Eve. He already knew that she and Adam would fall from grace, introducing sin into the world. That single event, according to scripture, is what officially put us as human beings "on the clock." It's the single event that birthed SOOOO much tragedy, suffering, abhorrent acts of vile, despicable cruelty. It's the single event that introduced mortality, which has given way to sickness, suffering, death, etc.....and I'll be damned if God didn't go ahead and go through with it anyway. Now, here's my question. Does it make ANY logical sense to you, that a God that possesses the characteristics that Christians profess him to have, would have willingly gone through with creating mankind WITH the knowledge that it was all going to lead to this?? That doesn't seem very merciful to me at all. The merciful thing to have done was to never create us in the first place. The logical and just thing to have done was to say "you know what, maybe this isn't such a good idea."

Or I could just quote George Carlin when he said "As soon as they introduced a talking snake, I knew it was bull$hit."
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The problem is your conclusion doesn’t follow.
If God knows this as you say, then he also knows the consummation of all the things. He knows the end reality.

So, how can you in your temporal state know that ultimate conclusion to those events isnt worth it?
 
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Well, this is interesting...

Perhaps something is closer than we think?

Alien hunters detect mystery signal coming from the closest star system | Space

Astronomers hunting for radio signals from alien civilizations have detected an "intriguing signal" from the direction of Proxima Centauri, the nearest star system to the sun, The Guardian reported.

The researchers are still preparing a paper on the discovery, and the data has not been made public, according to The Guardian. But the signal is reportedly a narrow beam of 980 MHz radio waves detected in April and May 2019 at the Parkes telescope in Australia. The Parkes telescope is part of the $100 million Breakthrough Listen project to hunt for radio signals from technological sources beyond the solar system. The 980 MHz signal appeared once and was never detected again. That frequency is important because, as Scientific American points out, that band of radio waves is typically lacking signals from human-made craft and satellites.

Penn State University's Sofia Sheikh, who led the analysis of the signal for Breakthrough Listen, voiced her excitement about it: "It's the most exciting signal that we've found in the Breakthrough Listen project, because we haven't had a signal jump through this many of our filters before," Sheikh told Scientific American, adding that the signal is now being referred to as Breakthrough Listen Candidate 1, or BLC1.
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A couple of videos on it basically saying what it could be and being cautious about the discovery.



 
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Of course, conspiracy theorists are going nuts trying to connect the Arecibo destruction to "the Man" trying to keep knowledge of this signal from getting out. Not even realizing Arecibo really isn't the best radio telescope to listen in on this intriguing signal. Basically, Arecibo was within "listening" distance of Proxima Centauri, but just barely since the inclination in relation to Earth makes it easier to see from the Southern Hemisphere.

They'd have to destroy a lot more radio telescopes in Australia and South America before they managed to suppress the capability to study this signal. It's like "do you even science, bro?" Even a knuckledragger like me understands inclinations and where systems are located in relation to the Earth.

Anyway, likely a false alarm, but very interesting with the blue shift spoken about in the videos. I don't entirely understand the science behind it, but the first video in the link above explains it sufficiently.
 
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I am an extremely adept amateur astronomer AND military aircraft historian AND theoretical physics dropout. I am going to describe my 9/11/1997 UFO sighting that occurred in Hartselle AL. My Uncles Jeff and Jeremy and I were looking at the stars discussing UFOs when I was shocked to hear Jeff say,"there's a UFO behind that plane!" I looked up and saw that an amber colored ball was following a 737 at 7500 ft approximately. It was coming from the SW and going to NE towards Huntsville. It flew by the plane and under and around it. Then it stopped and went still for 1 second. The plane never deviated from the flight plan or anything else. It would just have been any other plane for the fact that the UFO went up to space in 2 seconds and was accelerating in the exfiltration of the atmosphere. It did not make a sound. We were just able to begin hearing the jet when it went to space. UFOs apparent brightness at closest to us was approximately-1 or the brightness of Arcturus. It's angular diameter was .1 It only dimmed and shrunk so no jet or rocket was being used. I have been wondering if drone technology is the answer? Any way GBO!
 
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people are not taking the facts that time and space are INFINITE AND ETERNAL. BBT is a tv show and a joke for the science community. Also UFOs can be from SOL SYSTEM
 
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Grand Vol said:
Well, this is interesting...

Perhaps something is closer than we think?

Alien hunters detect mystery signal coming from the closest star system | Space



A couple of videos on it basically saying what it could be and being cautious about the discovery.



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I really curious about this. Smart money says it's some kind of natural phenomenon. The chance of intelligent life in the next system over is mindbogglingly low. But Proxima Centauri is where we will send the first extrasolar probe. This is a perfect excuse to fund it.
 
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I haven’t commented on this discussion since it’s inception 5 years ago.

My 2 cents is that I share the same thoughts on aliens as Stephen Hawking. If there’s life elsewhere in the universe, I wouldn’t want them knowing where we are and that we exist.
 
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VolFaninFla said:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/02/a-harvard-professor-says-an-alien-visited-in-2017/
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This article reaches the dumbest conclusions of all-time.

Space treaties, astro-linguistics, astro-economics? lol

Species eliminating itself through war or changing climate? People can’t agree on what happened last week in this country much less 100 years ago globally, but you think we’re going to discover a different (extinct) species, learn about the history and reason of extinction, extrapolate that to our living conditions and people accept it?!
 
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I was watching one of those UFO shows other day and a guy on there said something to the effect that it could be our own government making this stuff up to either hide tech or cause other governments to shift resources or funds to investigate this kinda stuff. We'll know more less than 180 days.
 
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I was curious, I guess everybody is, about what that Nashville bomber was thinking; what he was trying to blow up. NY Times ran an article today saying he was one of the "lizard aliens" believers, among lots of other things. By his own account he evidently started out on the 9/11 "friendly flag" idea and it grew from there. I don't see why that would make you blow yourself up, though.

I guess the Queen is a lizard in this line of thinking.
 
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