Am I the only one?

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#101
gsvol said:
Jeepers, who turned out the lights, man do the cockroaches ever come out in the dark or what??

If this was a connect the dots thread, the whole page would be one big scribble.:eek:hmy:
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It's a bright sunny, warm(actually rather hot, 85 degree) afternoon here:)
 
#102
#102
GmanTN said:
the 9 yrs answer was a ? that was asked about the article written in 2000. The 2003 article was about more info on Cheney. Perhaps you feel Bush did good while in office, I can point to countless people who have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars from losing their jobs thus their house and it snowballs from there. The default on home loans the past 8 yrs has more to do with finance companies making stupid loans to people with 500 beacons trying to cash in for their investors when property values were soaring. The problem was Country Wide was placing these people in ARM loans and instead of them putting some measures in place to educate and inform the people to refinance within 2 yrs to a conventional loan they rolled the dice to thump the people for more money for them and their investors but it backfired on them. People could not handle the adjusted rates and faulted on their loans, the housing market became flooded with repos and property values dropped.
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How much of this do we blame on those that wanted more house than they could afford? Granted they were granted the loans but there were warnings made public against arm loans many years ago, all people had to do was research, instead of buying with their heart they should have bought with their head.

This was started years ago, hard to blame this on one man. Government, buyers, lenders, banks, congress are all at fault here.
 
#103
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GmanTN said:
So tell me ole wise one, if Carter started it why did it not show up during the Reagan yrs, Bush Senior and Clinton a span of 20 yrs but it hit with GW. Don't hand me no bull man I voted for Reagan and Bush Sr but I be da*n if I will be so blind to blame our economy today on Clinton. Our economic woes are about greed from our politicians to the financial institutions. It sure is ironic that politicians acknowledge a problem but none seemed to want to do anything about it until it was official. Politicians are some of the biggest crooks in our country and I wish the people could vote on after they serve their term they receive no more money from the gov't for life.
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Lots of politicians warned that risky lending could lead to a big problem. Bush was among them.
 
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GmanTN said:
So tell me ole wise one, if Carter started it why did it not show up during the Reagan yrs, Bush Senior and Clinton a span of 20 yrs but it hit with GW. Don't hand me no bull man I voted for Reagan and Bush Sr but I be da*n if I will be so blind to blame our economy today on Clinton. Our economic woes are about greed from our politicians to the financial institutions. It sure is ironic that politicians acknowledge a problem but none seemed to want to do anything about it until it was official. Politicians are some of the biggest crooks in our country and I wish the people could vote on after they serve their term they receive no more money from the gov't for life.
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Let me preface this by saying I truly don't know, and what I'm about to say is only for you to think about. Most of these programs, when in their infancy, don't have immediate substantial impact. Neither for the user of the program or the cost to the government. Year after year however, these government budgets get more and more funding until they're the size of GNP for some small countries. By the time we have an economic downturn, and some people really need these programs, the leaches who have been living on them have created a level of funding we are unable to substain.

Like I said, I've done little to no reading on the subject, couple that with I just woke up, and I could be wrong.
 
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#105
This is an excerpt taken from a response to our financial crisis.

Clinton played a huge part in our economic downfall, because it was CLINTON that urged banks to make loans to people who couldnt afford them. He threatened banks into doing business with Fannie Mae, which was a government endorsed and sponsored organization. Fannie Mae granted loans and sold them to other banks. Eventually, their illegal practices caught up to them and banks refused to buy their mortgages because they were worthless and no longer guaranteed.

Clinton is also the reason for our flailing dollar. It was Clinton himself that urged the Federal Reserve to help influence the interest and inflation rates, and to make things worse, he commissioned the Mints, to print more currency. Currency that had no value (gold value) to back it up. You cannot simply print money without having something to back it up. It is no different than you or I counterfeiting money, it is no different than writing checks when you have no money in the bank to cover them. What it does is make our currency the same thing as monopoly money. It is paper, which has no value above the value of the paper and ink it is made with. Our dollar is only worth 2 cents- and that means that every single dollar is only worth 2 cents, because before he illegally printed money- each dollar was worth a dollar's worth of gold.
 
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refering to the jobs, didnt clinton sign a document, what was it called, something to do with companies being able to move their production facilites to mexico and not have to pay tariffs to ship to america,,,,, oh yah NAFTA
 
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rockytophigh said:
Here's my .02, & it probably isn't worth that.

Bush has kept us from having another 911- Awesome good thing
We can't pull out of Afghanistan or Iraq right now and it was the right thing to do IMO.
Bush did not one da&% thing about gas prices which started everyone's fear IMO and helped cause the economy to start to tank. Few of us who commute (any distance at all) everyday don't have $4.60/gallon gas in our budget- Worst job ever

All the social programs we have are eating us alive. Stop them, and stop them now. NEW RULE #1 if you elect Rockytophigh....If you have been in government assisted living you have 9 months to start paying it yourself...unless you're disabled then you can reapply. Rule #2. If you have been on foodstamps for more than 9 months or more than twice in 2 years......you have 6 months and you're out for 24 months......unless you're disabled then you can reapply. No more bailouts, no more handouts. End of story...have a great day.
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This isn't an accomplishment at all. In fact he didn't do anything more than any other president would have done, including Gore or Kerry. Most of our presidents haven't had a terrorist attack on the US while in office.
 
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truefan said:
This isn't an accomplishment at all. In fact he didn't do anything more than any other president would have done, including Gore or Kerry. Most of our presidents haven't had a terrorist attack on the US while in office.
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are you serious? you really think that gore or kerry would have prevented another attack. what would they have done? ha that funny. come back into the real world. get away from the light, step away from the light. splash some water from your face.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
It's a bright sunny, warm(actually rather hot, 85 degree) afternoon here:)
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Very funny, global warming is out of whack here in Tennessee, it's been colder than the proverbial witches teat (no offense intended toward mad cows) here.

Are there any rogue water buffalo on the loose there?? :)
 
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#110
truefan said:
This isn't an accomplishment at all. In fact he didn't do anything more than any other president would have done, including Gore or Kerry. Most of our presidents haven't had a terrorist attack on the US while in office.
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Truefan please step out of the 1960's we are now post 2001. The Muslim extemists would very much like to kill us all. No other president has been faced with this scenario.
 
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truefan said:
This isn't an accomplishment at all. In fact he didn't do anything more than any other president would have done, including Gore or Kerry. Most of our presidents haven't had a terrorist attack on the US while in office.
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ummm....he sort of established the dept. of homeland security which coordinated between law enforcement agencies....something we've never had before.

With the incredible increase in terrorist attacks across the globe, and absolutely none here, I would tend to think we have compromised.....er, dare I say thwarted their attempts. I don't think this is a stretch at all.

I do think it's impossible, and useless frankly, to compare what "so & so would have done." Way too many variables there. Can't we just give the man some credit where it is due?
 
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#112
gsvol said:
Very funny, global warming is out of whack here in Tennessee, it's been colder than the proverbial witches teat (no offense intended toward mad cows) here.

Are there any rogue water buffalo on the loose there?? :)
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Not sure. Can't seem to get past the message parlors. After all, they tell me they will love me until the end of time,,,,:)
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Not sure. Can't seem to get past the message parlors. After all, they tell me they will love me until the end of time,,,,:)
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#116
#116
Vol Mania 21 said:
funny ppl forget that the dem congress approval ratings are lower than Bush's
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Damn just think if the congressional approval numbers had been higher than G W's on Nov 4 2008 the gop would have probably lost 65 to 75 house seats and 17 to 20 senate seats but no we had to settle with ONLY picking up 21 house and 10 senate seats.It's a damn shame.LMAO:birgits_giggle:
 
#120
#120
I think if you look up NAFTA on wik.... you will find that Bush pushed this thru, it was like the last thing he done or something of that sort.:furious3:
 
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