Amanda Knox

#401
#401
butchna said:
So?...facts aren't necessary? :eek:k: Peach of a system they got over there...wish they had used it against an actual guilty person like Jodi Arias.
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Facts as to motivation? Facts are much more necessary in Italy's system than our system. In our system a prosecutor just has to convince a jury. No DNA, no physical evidence. People are convicted just on the basis of he said or she said. In Italy, facts are much more important because they use professional jurists. But, as I said, Italian law also requires the court to come up with a theory for motivation. The operative word is theory. A theory is not a fact.
 
#402
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Sandvol said:
One thing you have to understand is why all the theories about satanic or perversion? Italian law requires that the court provide a theory for the crime. Not necessarily for conviction but law still requires it that it be somewhat believable. So, how do you explain this? How does a judge make sense of this? It is inexplicable. Guede definitely wanted Meredith and many witnesses testified that there was friction between Amanda and Meredith. I believe Amanda was the antagonist and not Guede.
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Well as long as you believe it...luckily no sane American authority will.
 
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Sandvol said:
Facts as to motivation? Facts are much more necessary in Italy's system than our system. In our system a prosecutor just has to convince a jury. No DNA, no physical evidence. People are convicted just on the basis of he said or she said. In Italy, facts are much more important because they use professional jurists. But, as I said, Italian law also requires the court to come up with a theory for motivation. The operative word is theory. A theory is not a fact.
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You've convinced me...they're a joke...we have flaws but there's at least a high percentage chance our innocents get exonerated...if the Duke Lacrosse case had occurred in Italy we know how that would have turned out...misguided DAs flourish and depraved clueless Judges got their back.
 
#404
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butchna said:
You've convinced me...they're a joke...we have flaws but there's at least a high percentage chance our innocents get exonerated...if the Duke Lacrosse case had occurred in Italy we know how that would have turned out...misguided DAs flourish and depraved clueless Judges got their back.
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Your intemperance toward the Italians and their system is illogical. Their system is very highly thought of and very biased toward the accused. It isn't perfect. No justice system is perfect. They handled Amanda with kid gloves. I think they just wanted the case to just go away. But their system couldn't ignore the facts of the case. And, they believed Meredith should have justice.
 
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Sandvol said:
Your intemperance toward the Italians and their system is illogical. Their system is very highly thought of and very biased toward the accused. It isn't perfect. No justice system is perfect. They handled Amanda with kid gloves. I think they just wanted the case to just go away. But their system couldn't ignore the facts of the case. And, they believed Meredith should have justice.
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Keep using words that you have no grasp of...I don't like sending innocent people to jail...doesn't sit right. :yuck:
 
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So they don't generally try to pen murders committed by Ivory Coast expatriates on them? Should put that on a brochure. :)
 
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#414
Sandvol said:
You really need to stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
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Expatriate? "One who has taken up residence in a foreign country"? Pretty sure that it fit the context. Maybe read less Italian case law and pick up a thesaurus. :lol: I don't use words that I have no concept of lil buddy. :yu: There's no world that exists where I agree with you on this case...especially with the weak justification you keep beating the drum on. Your haughty and condescending manner in this thread alone, bespeaks the raging party animal you must be in real life. I'm reasonably confident that at the beginning of this exchange, you felt you'd trot out this far fetched Eurotrash Micheli Report and win hearts and minds...Keep telling yourself that...during the many conferences you hold with yourself. :loco:
 
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butchna said:
Expatriate? "One who has taken up residence in a foreign country"? Pretty sure that it fit the context. Maybe read less Italian case law and pick up a thesaurus. :lol: I don't use words that I have no concept of lil buddy. :yu: There's no world that exists where I agree with you on this case...especially with the weak justification you keep beating the drum on. Your haughty and condescending manner in this thread alone, bespeaks the raging party animal you must be in real life. I'm reasonably confident that at the beginning of this exchange, you felt you'd trot out this far fetched Eurotrash Micheli Report and win hearts and minds...Keep telling yourself that...during the many conferences you hold with yourself. :loco:
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It isn't mine or Micheli's or Massei's fault the case is too complicated for you.
 
#416
#416
Sandvol said:
It isn't mine or Micheli's or Massei's fault the case is too complicated for you.
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The case is simple...Guede raped and murdered Kercher...those idiots made it complicated. You want to throw in with those clowns, knock yourself out. :)
 
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Looks like ruling will come from Italian Supreme Court Wednesday or Thursday of next week.
 
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Sandvol said:
The Supreme Court will probably affirm their conviction then I suspect Italy will extradite.
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This whole thing stinks. I guess the Italian system doesn't have a "reasonable doubt" clause like we do. Everything I have read, it seems like they are trying to shove a square peg in a round hole.
 
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