Amateur Hour Continues

[Mick]

Yes withholding information during discovery during a criminal trial is bad.

"criminal" Oh, the fine line you want to balance yourself on to defend Trump during impeachment is remarkable.

 

[hog88]

That certainly reigns true for our President

LOL

 

[hog88]

"criminal" Oh, the fine line you want to balance yourself on to defend Trump during impeachment is remarkable.

Bless your heart Mick

 

[Mick]

Bless your heart Mick

I've been blessed, but thankfully not by Trump. And you can take your blessings and shove it.

 

[hog88]

I've been blessed, but thankfully not by Trump. And you can take your blessings and shove it.

Such anger

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Some Middle East peace plans out there don't have maps.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[USAFgolferVol]

LOL

Trump certainly seems to cater to Putin. More so than many of our actual allies

 

[hog88]

Trump certainly seems to cater to Putin. More so than many of our actual allies

"Cater to"? Increasing sanctions and providing lethal aid to Ukraine is catering?

 

[Mick]

"Cater to"? Increasing sanctions and providing lethal aid to Ukraine is catering?

What would withholding lethal aid to Ukraine be?

 

[Sandman 423]

Trump certainly seems to cater to Putin. More so than many of our actual allies

It what way has he catered to Putin?

 

[Sandman 423]

What would withholding lethal aid to Ukraine be?

The previous administrations approach.

 

[Mick]

The previous administrations approach.

Was it a good thing...... Oh nevermind the but Obama, you don't think we should give any country aid. So I'm sure you praised Obama's and Congresses for that decision and condemning Trump when he decided too, right? Nice little dig on Obama though.

Come back out and play @hog88 and answer the question.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

It what way has he catered to Putin?

Apparently you missed Helsinki and all the chummy meetings. In addition, Trump's claiming Ukraine meddled in our election despite the theory previously being debunked. The general consensus from the intelligence community says this is a Russia plant

 

[Sandman 423]

Apparently you missed Helsinki and all the chummy meetings. In addition, Trump's claiming Ukraine meddled in our election despite the theory previously being debunked. The general consensus from the intelligence community says this is a Russia plant

So he was nice to them at a meeting and he claims Ukraine meddled in our election? Your idea of soft is very different than mine.

 

[Sandman 423]

Was it a good thing...... Oh nevermind the but Obama, you don't think we should give any country aid. So I'm sure you praised Obama's and Congresses for that decision and condemning Trump when he decided too, right? Nice little dig on Obama though.

Come back out and play @hog88 and answer the question.

It wasn't a dig. It is fact. And you are correct, I preferred Obama's approach.

Do you think President Obama should have given them weapons?

 

[hog88]

Apparently you missed Helsinki and all the chummy meetings. In addition, Trump's claiming Ukraine meddled in our election despite the theory previously being debunked. The general consensus from the intelligence community says this is a Russia plant

Then we need better people in our intelligence community

 

[hog88]

Was it a good thing...... Oh nevermind the but Obama, you don't think we should give any country aid. So I'm sure you praised Obama's and Congresses for that decision and condemning Trump when he decided too, right? Nice little dig on Obama though.

Come back out and play @hog88 and answer the question.

Can’t top Sandman’s answer

 

[Mick]

It wasn't a dig. It is fact. And you are correct, I preferred Obama's approach.

Do you think President Obama should have given them weapons?

At the time, yes I thought congress should approve of weapons. It appears the Obama Administration and Congress knew enough to know they needed to address the corruption in post USSR Ukraine. Remember the passenger plane shot down from Ukraine by pro Russian rebels? Does the name Manafort ring a bell when talking about corruption in Ukraine?

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Then we need better people in our intelligence community

No one has seen a shred of proof they actually meddled

 

[Velo Vol]

At the time, yes I thought congress should approve of weapons. It appears the Obama Administration and Congress knew enough to know they needed to address the corruption in post USSR Ukraine. Remember the passenger plane shot down from Ukraine by pro Russian rebels? Does the name Manafort ring a bell when talking about corruption in Ukraine?

???

 

[Mick]

???

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - Wikipedia

 

[Velo Vol]

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - Wikipedia

At the time the Obama administration was saying very little, if anything, about corruption in the context of providing Ukraine lethal military aid. I don't know why you proceed to reference the airliner, as if it's connected to your previous sentence? The fact that Russians shot down the plane would be a strong argument in favor of proving said aid.

 

[Mick]

At the time the Obama administration was saying very little, if anything, about corruption in the context of providing Ukraine lethal military aid. I don't know why you proceed to reference the airliner, as if it's connected to your previous sentence?

Well it has to do with lethal weapons and where they may end up in a corrupt country. No direct connection between the Obama rational and public statements.

 

[Velo Vol]

Well it has to do with lethal weapons and where they may end up in a corrupt country. No direct connection between the Obama rational and public statements.

If the country is in such bad shape that the regular army (not militias) couldn't hold onto missiles, that would be something.

From what I could tell Obama's decision was he thought U.S. weapons would escalate the conflict.