"American alliance is worth nothing..."

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Hey were just stupid ass normal citizens. They said they did it so we went over and smoked them. And you damn well know I have no love for the house of Saud either.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

We would sanction anyone. That's all we got.
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You mean like the hammer of giving financial aid to virtually anyone that needs it? That kind of hammer? Or do you mean that taking away that aid is a hammer?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
You mean like the hammer of giving financial aid to virtually anyone that needs it? That kind of hammer? Or do you mean that taking away that aid is a hammer?
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Basically the same thing, isn't it? We let our money freely flow around to buy favors and influence and when someone steps out of line we close the spigot.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It's A Gas... Germany Outraged By US Colonial Arrogance

"Nord Stream 2 is the 1,222-kilometer pipeline being laid in the Baltic seabed which will greatly increase delivery of natural gas from Russia to Germany. It will double Germany’s import of Russian gas when complete. But the Trump administration has repeatedly voiced its objection to the project, claiming that it will give Moscow undue political leverage over Europe. Trump has warned of sanctions on participating companies, which include German and Austrian firms.

The flagrant ulterior agenda is seen as the US trying to undermine German-Russian energy trade, for the purpose of selling more expensive American liquefied natural gas to Europe. So much for American free-market capitalism!"
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Trump Loses More Than Just The Battle Over Nordstream 2

A lot of truth bombs being dropped in this article.

Never once did I think the day wouldn’t come where the U.S. would eventually shut the pipeline down. The reason is simple. Europe, and specifically Germany, need the gas and there is no compelling reason for Germany to cave in the end if it wants to survive the 21st century a first world economy.


Russian piped gas is simply too cheap for any LNG to compete with.

In a sense, this pipeline is Germany’s declaration of independence from seventy-plus years of U.S. policy setting. Never forget that Germany is occupied territory with more than 50,000 U.S. troops stationed there.

So it is supremely rich of President Trump to call Nordstream 2 something that could make Germany a “hostage of Russia” when it’s been a hostage of the U.S. since 1945.
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In the end the story of Nordstream 2 has a happy ending. Because despite the ridiculous rhetoric about European energy security, nothing secures the long-term peace in Europe than stitching the continent together with Asia with energy pipelines.

If Nordstream 2 wasn’t the optimal solution to Europe’s needs blame the U.S. and the EU itself for forcing Russia to scuttle South Stream in 2014 and fomenting a coup and the subsequent failed state known today as Ukraine then as well.

We broke what didn’t need fixing. But the U.S./U.K. obsessions with blunting the rise of China and enacting revenge on Russia for not becoming a vassal state to Wall St. and City of London under Putin wouldn’t be appeased.
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US Sanctions Backfire: Russia's Gazprom & Ukraine Make Landmark Deal

Of course the other supreme irony is that Washington has claimed all along to be acting in Ukraine and Europe's best interest, but it appears no one is getting the message.
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So again, as Russia and Germany continue to ignore US pressures and demands, after even some in the US administration have admitted it's "too little too late" to block the NS2 project at this point, the unintended end result is that against all odds Russia and Ukraine could come out of this BFFs.
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Mick said:
Trumps foreign policy has proven to favor Russian over our own interest.
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What interests do we have in Western Europe that we need to maintain? They take more than they give. Time to pull up and out of there and work on fixing this hemisphere. Let the Europeans sort out their own issues. That's how it should be anyways. What's the big problem with that?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What interests do we have in Western Europe that we need to maintain? They take more than they give. Time to pull up and out of there and work on fixing this hemisphere. Let the Europeans sort out their own issues. That's how it should be anyways. What's the big problem with that?
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A world presence is what we've lost, Germany is so strategic for our interest abroad, you'd have to be a complete FN moron to pull out. You're so short sighted on Trump's pullbacks and withdraws and how our interest have given way to Putin's. I hate to tell you the more we pullback the more the world will go on without us.
 
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Mick said:
A world presence is what we've lost, Germany is so strategic for our interest abroad, you'd have to be a complete FN moron to pull out. You're so short sighted on Trump's pullbacks and withdraws and how our interest have given way to Putin's. I hate to tell you the more we pullback the more the world will go on without us.
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I don't like it either and think it's a mistake but curious to where you were when Obama was sitting back and letting the same actors take over while we did nothing?
 
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Mick said:
A world presence is what we've lost, Germany is so strategic for our interest abroad, you'd have to be a complete FN moron to pull out. You're so short sighted on Trump's pullbacks and withdraws and how our interest have given way to Putin's. I hate to tell you the more we pullback the more the world will go on without us.
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Why is that a problem? Let them sort out their own affairs over there. We will fix our problems over here. Like you said, the world will go on. So why is that a bad thing?
 
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Mick said:
A world presence is what we've lost, Germany is so strategic for our interest abroad, you'd have to be a complete FN moron to pull out. You're so short sighted on Trump's pullbacks and withdraws and how our interest have given way to Putin's. I hate to tell you the more we pullback the more the world will go on without us.
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And please, explain to a moron like me why Germany is so vital to our interests.
 
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Mick said:
A world presence is what we've lost, Germany is so strategic for our interest abroad, you'd have to be a complete FN moron to pull out. You're so short sighted on Trump's pullbacks and withdraws and how our interest have given way to Putin's. I hate to tell you the more we pullback the more the world will go on without us.
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Who the hell is going to invade Germany?
 
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