American war dead are "Losers and Suckers," per Trump

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VolnJC said:
How's that Kurd genocide prediction working our for her? She crossed the line from reporter to oped and Trump critic long ago
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You are misrepresenting what she said. She did not say that genocide was underway. She said that it could be a consequence of the U.S. troop withdrawal from northern Syria. And it's been less than a year.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are misrepresenting what she said. She did not say that genocide was underway. She said that it could be a consequence of the U.S. troop withdrawal from northern Syria. And it's been less than a year.
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Is that reporting or opinion?
 
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Septic said:
Everyone in the Q thread:

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Both sides 100% do it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who do you consider to be the more honest person? Donald Trump or John Kelly?

It is so obvious that John Kelly is one of the sources for this story, that it almost doesn't even matter that he has remained "anonymous". Anyone with a capacity for deductive reasoning, can see that Kelly is a source.
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What about the other 3 anonymous sources that were used in the reporting to lend it credibility?

Use your brain.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It looks like the only part of this "concession" is that the cancellation of the trip to the cemetery may have been due to inclement weather. However, that is not the central claim, or the most damaging claim. The most damaging claim is that Donald Trump called Vietnam veterans "suckers". That allegation is still out there.
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We only lied about part of what we reported. The juicy stuff is true - I swear
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have no idea what this part in bold even means... but a lot of news organizations missed badly on the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq claim, not to mention our federal government.
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The Atlantic lied about Sarah Palin’s son Trig (who has Down’s syndrome) and claimed that she faked the pregnancy and that he was actually Bristol Palin’s son.
 
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ajvol01 said:
We only lied about part of what we reported. The juicy stuff is true - I swear
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The reason for why Trump didn't make the trip to the cemetery is not at the heart of this story. This will always be about whether or not Trump disparaged Vietnam veterans and wondered aloud as to why Americans joined the military - because 'they don't make any money'.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's being analytical. That is pretty common to see cable news reporters (including Fox News) splicing commentary within their reports. Coming from Fox News, it normally has a right-wing slant. I doubt you complain too much about that.
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I couldn't name 3 reporters for Fox because I havent watched cable news for years...I kinda like Herridge sp? and Carl Cameron..Shep was cool because he was SEC guy
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The reason for why Trump didn't make the trip to the cemetery is not at the heart of this story. This will always be about whether or not Trump disparaged Vietnam veterans and wondered aloud as to why Americans joined the military - because 'they don't make any money'.
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So who are the 4 sources making this claim? We are down to Kelly, and some random people walking down the street for candidates
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It looks like the only part of this "concession" is that the cancellation of the trip to the cemetery may have been due to inclement weather. However, that is not the central claim, or the most damaging claim. The most damaging claim is that Donald Trump called Vietnam veterans "suckers". That allegation is still out there.
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So, the only "sources" are nameless and unknown, almost everyone present has denied it happened, there aren't enough people who were present to be off the record and claiming it happened, and the only other fact in dispute has been proven wrong and backed off of by the author?

That about cover it?

This reeks of urine--as in, another pee story for the left to pray is true.
 
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ajvol01 said:
The Atlantic lied about Sarah Palin’s son Trig (who has Down’s syndrome) and claimed that she faked the pregnancy and that he was actually Bristol Palin’s son.
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I don't want to get off topic again, but The Atlantic did just the opposite of that.

Google "In Defense of Sarah Palin - The Atlantic" or "Sarah Palin is Right - The Atlantic" or "Tracing the Narratives of Birthers and Trig-Truthers - The Atlantic".

They did discuss that conspiracy theory but actively worked to discredit it... not prove it.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, the only "sources" are nameless and unknown, almost everyone present has denied it happened, there aren't enough people who were present to be off the record and claiming it happened, and the only other fact in dispute has been proven wrong and backed off of by the author?

That about cover it?

This reeks of urine--as in, another pee story for the left to pray is true.
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That isn't true... because not all of these comments were alleged to have taken place on the same day.
 
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So, the only "sources" are nameless and unknown, almost everyone present has denied it happened, there aren't enough people who were present to be off the record and claiming it happened, and the only other fact in dispute has been proven wrong and backed off of by the author?

That about cover it?

This reeks of urine--as in, another pee story for the left to pray is true.
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The sources aren't unknown or anonymous, the Atlantic's article sources were corroborated by the journalist from Fox. The sources simply haven't been released to the public...

People "denying" it happened are really only admitting that they weren't present.
 
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Septic said:
The sources aren't unknown or anonymous, the Atlantic's article sources were corroborated by the journalist from Fox. The sources simply haven't been released to the public...

People "denying" it happened are really only admitting that they weren't present.
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So name the people left on the trip that could be the sources? Gotta be down to Kelly and a couple waitresses...maybe someone he met in a bar.. possibly a cab driver...everyone else on the trip has denied it
 
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Septic said:
The sources aren't unknown or anonymous, the Atlantic's article sources were corroborated by the journalist from Fox. The sources simply haven't been released to the public...

People "denying" it happened are really only admitting that they weren't present.
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So the same people said the same **** to two journalists but won’t put their name by it. Got it.
 
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VolnJC said:
So name the people left on the trip that could be the sources? Gotta be down to Kelly and a couple waitresses...maybe someone he met in a bar.. possibly a cab driver...everyone else on the trip has denied it
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Kelly was asked about it and said, "no comment", which means Trump probably said it. He would have denied it had Trump not said it. Most of the people in that entourage probably weren't standing around close enough to hear everything dumb Donald said. Again, because he has said SO MANY things like this, it's much more likely that's it's true than a lie
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
After his admission today it’s already gone like a fart on the wind to anybody with common sense.
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I don't believe that one facet discredits an entire story. There were aspects of Woodward and Bernstein's reporting on the Watergate break-in and cover up that were not accurate. That didn't mean that EVERYTHING else was false. "Anybody with any common sense" should be able to deduce by now that John Kelly has been at least one of the sources for these allegations. As a career military serviceman, Kelly is highly credible, and he was in a position to have heard what was said. Kelly is not a political hack. The average person would take the word of John Kelly in a minute over the word of Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Stephen Miller and Dan Bongino.

Jennifer Griffin referred to one of her sources as "umimpeachable". Who else could that include among former Trump Administration Officials, if not John Kelly? Look at Donald Trump's tweets over the weekend, he clearly believes that John Kelly is one of the sources for this story.

Having said that, Jeffrey Goldberg has promised that there would be more corroborating evidence brought forward in the coming days and weeks to confirm his reporting. If nothing surfaces, then he was just blowing smoke. We will just have to wait and see...
 
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Hunerwadel said:
My portfolio has done well since the crash in '07. I wish the working poor and middle class had fared as well. I remember when the market crashed and people blamed Bush. The right said back then that "presidents don't affect the markets that much".
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No.... they didn’t.... they said Barney Frank and Bill Clinton f’ed everybody with their Freddie and Fannie regulations
 
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