Another round of expansion coming

#52
#52
rocytop2624 said:
I don't think it affected the regular season. After the Arkansas loss Tennessee had to win or they wouldn't make the playoffs. And take ND after the NIU loss in the 2nd game of the year they had to win out.
Click to expand...
I agree that this past season it worked out. Personally, I really like the current system. I was just saying I don't want them to keep expanding. But they don't care about what we want. All they care about is making money. And people watch playoffs games.
 
#53
#53
rocytop2624 said:
I don't think it affected the regular season. After the Arkansas loss Tennessee had to win or they wouldn't make the playoffs. And take ND after the NIU loss in the 2nd game of the year they had to win out.
Click to expand...
The fact that ND even had a chance at the NC after losing to 7th in the MAC NIU AT HOME should tell you this format is worthless...
 
  • Like
Reactions: GulfCoasterVol
#54
#54
RDU VOL#14 said:
The last thing anyone should ever try to replicate is the sport of basketball at the moment. College or pro. November-the beginning of March doesnt mean much anymore . People are just not interested the way that they once were. My concern for football is not the CFP taking away from the regular season, it’s the calendar. In theory, Ohio State vs Notre Dame should be a monster tv draw, but the game had zero buzz about it. Playing the national title on a random Monday in late January after a weekend of nfl playoffs didn’t seem to work. I love college football, I mean I watch the Bahamas bowl if it’s on, but I wasn’t really excited for that game . It seemed too late. I don’t know what can be done other than turning week zero into week 1 and moving up the CFP to take away Army/Navy as a stand alone game.
Click to expand...
I think its also worth pointing out that ESPN exclusivity is terrible for promotion. What incentive do FOX or CBS have to promote the NC when they don't get any slice of that pie?
 
  • Like
Reactions: swampfoxfan
#55
#55
g0d0fm15ch13f said:
I think its also worth pointing out that ESPN exclusivity is terrible for promotion. What incentive do FOX or CBS have to promote the NC when they don't get any slice of that pie?
Click to expand...
They had the option to bid on the CFP rights and they didn’t want the inventory. I think originally, the idea was that everyone might try and subpackage the Playoff, but the $ wasn’t there. CBS especially has always lowballed college football, which is why the SEC went exclusively to ABC/Espn. I think it would be better if Fox/NBC/ESPN had part of those first round games and worked together the way that the NFL does.
 
  • Like
Reactions: g0d0fm15ch13f and S.C. OrangeMan
#56
#56
g0d0fm15ch13f said:
I think its also worth pointing out that ESPN exclusivity is terrible for promotion. What incentive do FOX or CBS have to promote the NC when they don't get any slice of that pie?
Click to expand...
The college football playoffs have a product to sell. If CBS and Fox want a piece of the pie, pay for it and you'll get it.

It's like the Olympics or World Series, I've no sympathy for those who didn't bid high enough to get in on the rewards of airing it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: g0d0fm15ch13f and S.C. OrangeMan
#58
#58
RDU VOL#14 said:
The last thing anyone should ever try to replicate is the sport of basketball at the moment. College or pro. November-the beginning of March doesnt mean much anymore . People are just not interested the way that they once were. My concern for football is not the CFP taking away from the regular season, it’s the calendar. In theory, Ohio State vs Notre Dame should be a monster tv draw, but the game had zero buzz about it. Playing the national title on a random Monday in late January after a weekend of nfl playoffs didn’t seem to work. I love college football, I mean I watch the Bahamas bowl if it’s on, but I wasn’t really excited for that game . It seemed too late. I don’t know what can be done other than turning week zero into week 1 and moving up the CFP to take away Army/Navy as a stand alone game.
Click to expand...
Move Army-Navy to a MNF game and have the pros skip that Monday night. Eliminate the conference championship games.

That starts the playoffs two weeks earlier.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RDU VOL#14
#59
#59
g0d0fm15ch13f said:
The fact that ND even had a chance at the NC after losing to 7th in the MAC NIU AT HOME should tell you this format is worthless...
Click to expand...
Wrong. That assumes that a team with a bad loss should never make the playoffs.

Teams have bad games. That's not an automatic disqualifier. If losses are such a big deal, why have ANY postseason games.

We should have just awarded the FBS championship to Oregon, right?
 
#60
#60
S.C. OrangeMan said:
Move Army-Navy to a MNF game and have the pros skip that Monday night. Eliminate the conference championship games.

That starts the playoffs two weeks earlier.
Click to expand...
That would be awesome , but I don’t think CBS wants to do that, nor do I think the nfl would make any concessions. The NFL is basically the mafia at this point. They just take whatever they want and tell you to kick rocks . At some point college football has to start standing up to them. They’ve taken Thursday nights from college, they take Saturdays in December, they took Christmas and the beginning of the playoffs from the NBA, the CFP semis were played on a Wednesday and Thursday. It’s ridiculous.
 
  • Like
Reactions: S.C. OrangeMan
#61
#61
S.C. OrangeMan said:
Wrong. That assumes that a team with a bad loss should never make the playoffs.

Teams have bad games. That's not an automatic disqualifier. If losses are such a big deal, why have ANY postseason games.

We should have just awarded the FBS championship to Oregon, right?
Click to expand...
No that's my point exactly. A bad loss should be a disqualifier. I do think that Oregon was the best team through the regular season, and if I were the sole executive governing body of the NCAA, they would have been national champs. I don't think that a team that simply has more talent and can outlast opponents through an extended tournament are necessarily the best team in the sport. This is exactly what anOSU did this past year. It would be one thing if their only regular season loss was the close loss to Oregon. But they lost in spectacular fashion at home against an unranked opponent. That should be the proof in the pudding that they didn't put together the best season, and should necessarily prove that they aren't the best team in the country. But instead they got another chance and simply had the bigger roster. If embarrassing losses don't mean anything anymore, then what weight do wins really have?
 
#62
#62
volbound1700 said:
I am mixed on it.

A lot of the NCAA Tournament in Basketball is more than about determining the National Champion. Teams brag about Sweet 16, Elite 8, and Final 4 appearances. It gives teams something to play for that can't.

This is why I hate Tennessee's seeding this year. I didn't think Tennessee was a true contender to win it all but it would have been nice to advance a game or two into the tournament. Teams will start tracking Final 4s, Elite 8s, etc. in this Tournament like other sports.

That being said, I feel like it is too quick of a change.
Click to expand...
That's just it, historically elite teams in basketball don't brag about Sweet 16 or Elite 8 appearances. They're expected.
 
#64
#64
For those that want expansion, I am curious if the numbers support it boosting or hurting college football long term. When I see this many people not enjoying the games as they used to during traditional bowl games, I'm curious whether they gained following or if everyone in the United States is going to start calling soccer football. I have to state that I'm on the side that doesn't enjoy games as much and I used to watch every bowl game that I could. The discussions about matchups and what could have been are gone. Split national championships may seem dumb, but it made for a lot of water cooler talk about the sport. I only watched UT-Ohio State this year and was done.
 
#65
#65
I think 12 is too much. Make it 8 or go back to the old way. No shot teams like Boise State or SMU are making the playoffs in an 8-team playoff. They just didn't belong. Next year, without Ashton Jeanty, they'll be maybe 6-6, making the Cure Bowl or the Murtle Beach Bowl.
 
#66
#66
Well, one thing is for sure. Sports media, talk shows, online forums like this are very dependent on the drama around that 17th team.
 
#67
#67
Once playoff begins the games should be played at neutral sights. Not a single team that traveled won a game in this year's playoffs.
 
#68
#68
Remy said:
Once playoff begins the games should be played at neutral sights. Not a single team that traveled won a game in this year's playoffs.
Click to expand...
Doesn’t that help keep the regular season relevant by rewarding the teams that have a better resume than others? And doesn’t that ask way too much of fans to travel to another big city during the holidays?

I’m the opposite. I think teams 1-4 should get a home game too and then move to neutral site games.
 
  • Like
Reactions: g0d0fm15ch13f
#69
#69
Remy said:
Once playoff begins the games should be played at neutral sights. Not a single team that traveled won a game in this year's playoffs.
Click to expand...
RDU VOL#14 said:
Doesn’t that help keep the regular season relevant by rewarding the teams that have a better resume than others? And doesn’t that ask way too much of fans to travel to another big city during the holidays?

I’m the opposite. I think teams 1-4 should get a home game too and then move to neutral site games.
Click to expand...

The one thing I like from the current format is the home games. Bowl season was missing the home game atmosphere. I pray we get one soon
 
  • Like
Reactions: RDU VOL#14
#70
#70
g0d0fm15ch13f said:
The one thing I like from the current format is the home games. Bowl season was missing the home game atmosphere. I pray we get one soon
Click to expand...
IMO part of what college football so good is the uniqueness of a Neyland Stadium, LSU at night, a whiteout at Penn State or other traditions . I think the more that it’s included the better for the sport . If we continue to have more bowl sites as host for big games the college game is just kowtowing to the $$ execs for these bowl games .
 
#71
#71
RDU VOL#14 said:
The last thing anyone should ever try to replicate is the sport of basketball at the moment. College or pro. November-the beginning of March doesnt mean much anymore . People are just not interested the way that they once were. My concern for football is not the CFP taking away from the regular season, it’s the calendar. In theory, Ohio State vs Notre Dame should be a monster tv draw, but the game had zero buzz about it. Playing the national title on a random Monday in late January after a weekend of nfl playoffs didn’t seem to work. I love college football, I mean I watch the Bahamas bowl if it’s on, but I wasn’t really excited for that game . It seemed too late. I don’t know what can be done other than turning week zero into week 1 and moving up the CFP to take away Army/Navy as a stand alone game.
Click to expand...

It isn't so much that they're trying to replicate March Madness, it's that it has been used primarily by the media to promote having more teams, including G5 teams involved as if there will be "cinderella" type runs. That's pure fantasy, and even as fantasy it's ridiculous.

To me, the right answer is an 8-team event, with the top 8 teams in the final rankings, regardless of conference championships. The four first round games at the college sites, then the "final four" at bowl sites. Play the conference championship games, but the rankings are set before those games. Leave Army-Navy as a stand alone - can one tradition be kept, for crying out loud?

I would make the conference champs get auto-bids, but given the difference in quality from the SEC to the other conferences, that would be unfair to SEC teams that played a meat grinder schedule as compared to a Clemson or Penn State playing a cream puff schedule.

All of this, of course, is a fantasy as well - going backward for less revenue will never be an option.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RDU VOL#14
#73
#73
peaygolf said:

Another round of expansion coming....​



The next thread that starts this way...........better include Major League Baseball coming to Nashville.

Otherwise.........IDGAF
Click to expand...
HELL NO- with the heat of a thousand suns NO.
Tennessee is BRAVES country. We don’t need any more baseball teams in the south.

No No No No No.
 
#74
#74
I don't see what the issue is with 16 teams myself....NAIA...D-III...D-II have done 16 for years. My son played NAIA for 4 years back in the mid 90s. They made the semi finals of the playoffs twice and quarterfinals once in those 4 years. They had to ride a bus and stay in budget hotels....then ride the bus back after the games 10-15 hours all night.

Go to 16 like the other divisions and be done with it.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top