Any Vols Coming out to California for the Cal Game?

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BigPapaVol said:
I don't underestimate CA talent, Cal just happens to recruit it poorly. You can keep getting away with doing that and winning, because USC is the only school in the PAC 10 that recruits it well.
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not according to virtually every national recruiting service. tedford has 5 straight top 20 recruiting classes and is consistantly #2 in the pac-10. where do you think all this california talent goes? SC only has like 20 slots every year. our roster is filled with players SC wanted. they are getting more than we are, but the gap isn't as great as you seem to think it is.

check out our 2007 recruiting video: http://cybvideo.com/ttf/formal.wmv
 
#229
#229
BigPapaVol said:
just guessing by the fact that you are posting here the way you do, you believe Cal actually has a competitive college football program and you likely went to Cal.
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how about at least equally educated, so you can't use that as a chip in further debate. you simply have to talk about the pathetic athletic programs that Cal has. Athletics are clearly the focus of this board and you threw academics into the debate. I might have too if I were having to defend Cal, but I'd rather limit the discussion to where it belongs on a board like this.
 
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droski said:
not according to virtually every national recruiting service. tedford has 5 straight top 20 recruiting classes and is consistantly #2 in the pac-10. where do you think all this california talent goes? SC only has like 20 slots every year. our roster is filled with players SC wanted. they are getting more than we are, but the gap isn't as great as you seem to think it is.

check out our 2007 recruiting video: http://cybvideo.com/ttf/formal.wmv
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the gap from the top players to the next in any state is tremendous. That's why they keep beating you.

It works like this: if A>B then A>B. If you need more explanation, PM me.
 
#231
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BigPapaVol said:
the gap from the top players to the next in any state is tremendous. That's why they keep beating you.

It works like this: if A>B then A>B. If you need more explanation, PM me.
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not in california. it's a big state. there are a lot of good players.
 
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droski said:
not in california. it's a big state. there are a lot of good players.
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great. keep playing second fiddle and you'll continue to play second fiddle. BTW, when other schools nationally are getting the top recruits in many other states, they're better than your second fiddle guys.
USC get the BEST in CA, unless those players leave the state altogether. USC also gets some of the best from around the country, which is where Cal falls woefully short. Regardless, I'm very proud of Cal for being one of the top recruiters in CA. There's something to hang your hat on. Next year, ya'll will probably hammer some Fresno States and such.
 
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droski said:
not according to virtually every national recruiting service. tedford has 5 straight top 20 recruiting classes and is consistantly #2 in the pac-10. where do you think all this california talent goes? SC only has like 20 slots every year. our roster is filled with players SC wanted. they are getting more than we are, but the gap isn't as great as you seem to think it is.
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I looked it up, Cal has had some decent recruiting classes, consistently #2 in the Pac10, but still middle of the pack if they were an SEC team. According to Rivals:

2007 #22 nationally, would have been #8 in the SEC
2006 #19 nationally, would have been #7 in the SEC
2005 #9 nationally, would have been #2 in the SEC (second only to Tennessee)
2004 #23 nationally, would have been #8 in the SEC
2003 #14 nationally, would have been #6 in the SEC
 
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Volmania said:
I looked it up, Cal has had some decent recruiting classes, consistently #2 in the Pac10, but still middle of the pack if they were an SEC team. According to Rivals:

2007 #22 nationally, would have been #8 in the SEC
2006 #19 nationally, would have been #7 in the SEC
2005 #9 nationally, would have been #2 in the SEC (second only to Tennessee)
2004 #23 nationally, would have been #8 in the SEC
2003 #14 nationally, would have been #6 in the SEC
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but did you watch the video that droski posted?

neither did I, but it would probably change our minds.
 
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#235
According to scout:

2005: Cal #9 avg star 3.58 Tenn #1 3.63
2006: Cal #23 avg star 3.25 Tenn #24 3.21
2007: Cal #12 avg star 3.44 Ten #4 3.63

I don't see a HUGE gap here do you? You'd think that mighty tenn would be at least a full star rating higher than such a lousy program as cal wouldn't you?

edit: i'd hope this puts to rest the notion that our depth stinks compared to tenn
 
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droski said:
According to scout:

2005: Cal #9 avg star 3.58 Tenn #1 3.63
2006: Cal #23 avg star 3.25 Tenn #24 3.21
2007: Cal #12 avg star 3.44 Ten #4 3.63

I don't see a HUGE gap here do you? You'd think that mighty tenn would be at least a full star rating higher than such a lousy program as cal wouldn't you?

edit: i'd hope this puts to rest the notion that our depth stinks compared to tenn
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By the way, congratulations. You successfully outrecruited 4 SEC teams this year. Very impressive.
 
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hatvol96 said:
By the way, congratulations. You successfully outrecruited 4 SEC teams this year. Very impressive.
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this is the best recruiting class the SEC has ever had. this year according to scout we'd rank #6 in the sec. not exactly horrible.
 
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hatvol96 said:
No, the a$$ beating we dealt you last year did that.
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lack of experience in key positions is not that same thing as lack of talent. you do that to us THIS year and i'll publically declare Cal a piece of s compared to tenn.
 
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droski said:
this is the best recruiting class the SEC has ever had. this year according to scout we'd rank #6. not exactly horrible.
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That means your talent would be smack in the middle of the conference. The fact you think that's not horrible tells me all I need to know about your program. Of course, playing in Pac 10, mid level SEC talent will probably allow you to finish second.
 
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hatvol96 said:
That means your talent would be smack in the middle of the conference. The fact you think that's not horrible tells me all I need to know about your program. Of course, playing in Pac 10, mid level SEC talent will probably allow you to finish second.
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this is not a normal recruiting year for the sec. when has there ever been 5 top 10 recruiting classes in the sec? I bet never. the previous 10 years before this years class for cal would rank #2 or #3 in the sec. the pac-10 has 3 teams in the top 12 according to scout btw.
 
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smokeyman15 said:
I cant believe of all fans a Cal fan comes in here and talks $hit...I think thats incredibly funny...
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you are the only people that think it is talking s- to say your team doesn't suck. 99% of my posts have been complimentary to your football team. maybe 5% of your posts can say the same.
 
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droski said:
lack of experience in key positions is not that same thing as lack of talent. you do that to us THIS year and i'll publically declare Cal a piece of s compared to tenn.
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Did this past season's game not already give you enough information?
 
#250
#250
We aren't trying to insult you. It's just that there are many teams in the SEC better than you, and if we lose to you, it isn't a good sign.
 
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