Ap Top 25, Vols #5

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EricFreakingBerry said:
Still don't understand why it was fair to keep 1 loss Alabama ahead of TCU but can't keep 1 loss Tennessee ahead of them.

I'll be rooting for two UT's this weekend it looks like.
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These two polls today mean nothing...... The media complained about Bama at 6 and TCU at 7 rankings from the committee, which the media has zero control over.

If anything, CFP has shown they will buck the media's choice of rankings. Great day to be a Volunteer!
 
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Tenn is in. No doubt about it. At 11-1, with this resume, this isn’t debatable. If LSU beats UGA, then you’re more likely to see three SEC teams than Tenn getting left out. It is what it is.
 
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UTwild82 said:
Even if LSU wins SECCG, that doesn't mean they get in. In 2016 Penn St had 2 losses and beat Ohio St to give them their only loss. Penn St was B1G champ and Ohio St still got in playoff.
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I don't think the 2016 PSU precedent will carry over here. If TCU winds up dropping a game, LSU winning the SEC in Atlanta could very well give a shot at 3 teams making playoff.

The main thing for LSU's chances is if they get to #6 Tuesday after beating Bama. If they somehow go into Atlanta as a top 6 team in the CFP, a win over #1 UGA would have to include them in the playoff. I don't think a 12-1 Clemson, 12-1 Oregon, or 12-1 TCU would get in over an 11-2 LSU with 3 top ten wins in their final 7 games.

I think UGA is a lock for the playoff regardless of Atlanta... I think Tennessee is a lock at 11-1 as no initial #1 ranked team has missed the playoff with 0/1 losses. I think Ohio State/Michigan winner is the 3rd lock. The 4th spot could come down to committee choosing between 12-1 Clemson, 12-1 Oregon/USC, 12-1 TCU, 11-2 LSU...

Since the SEC title would likely be only championship game with 2 top 6 ranked teams, I don't see how you can leave out #6 "because of 2 losses" if they beat #1 team.....

And in that scenario, we would have a blowout win over that 11-2 team. All hell would break loose if LSU goes 11-2. You would have debates worse than a presidential debate happening all over the football world.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Very. Obviously the committee could choose some 1-loss conference champs over us but I truly believe more chaos is to come. TCU will lose, the Pac12 champ will have 2 losses, and even Clemson could lose again if Dabo doesn’t change QBs.
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Both his QBs suck. He doesn't have much choice.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
I love how the dude from south bend is just completely unwavered that Alabama is not only better than Tennessee but is a top 5 team.

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This guy has LSU in front of us. I guess winning convincingly at Tiger Stadium means nothing to him. Not to mention our higher SOS with the better record.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I don't think the 2016 PSU precedent will carry over here. If TCU winds up dropping a game, LSU winning the SEC in Atlanta could very well give a shot at 3 teams making playoff.

The main thing for LSU's chances is if they get to #6 Tuesday after beating Bama. If they somehow go into Atlanta as a top 6 team in the CFP, a win over #1 UGA would have to include them in the playoff. I don't think a 12-1 Clemson, 12-1 Oregon, or 12-1 TCU would get in over an 11-2 LSU with 3 top ten wins in their final 7 games.

I think UGA is a lock for the playoff regardless of Atlanta... I think Tennessee is a lock at 11-1 as no initial #1 ranked team has missed the playoff with 0/1 losses. I think Ohio State/Michigan winner is the 3rd lock. The 4th spot could come down to committee choosing between 12-1 Clemson, 12-1 Oregon/USC, 12-1 TCU, 11-2 LSU...

Since the SEC title would likely be only championship game with 2 top 6 ranked teams, I don't see how you can leave out #6 "because of 2 losses" if they beat #1 team.....

And in that scenario, we would have a blowout win over that 11-2 team. All hell would break loose if LSU goes 11-2. You would have debates worse than a presidential debate happening all over the football world.
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How you pick and choose when to apply precedent as if it’s a fact is a wonder to behold.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
How you pick and choose when to apply precedent as if it’s a fact is a wonder to behold.
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I mean some norms are consistent across the committees even as they have new members and members term limited. One being a team that debuts as #1 being in the final 4 rankings as long as they have 0 or 1 losses. Tennessee at 11-1 would be in the playoff.

However in the PSU scenario, it has happened once with a committee that decided that is no longer voting or participants in the CFP.... What they "ruled" has no bearing on this committee.

The only "precedent" I have not agreed with is the 2016 PSU 2 loss champ.... Not sure there is anything else I've argued that would be against precedent.

If there is only 1 undefeated P5 champ, there is a path for a 2 loss champ to get in. Especially when the 2 loss champ would have 3 top ten wins in a 7 game win streak to end the season.... And if that team makes the playoff and the above precedent of #1 team in the initial rankings makes the playoff, Not sure why you are freaking out.

This is how chaos happens.

Look, I don't believe LSU stands a chance vs UGA... But if they somehow go into that game in the top 6, a win would be hard to ignore on them securing the 4 spot. And I do not think the choice for the 4th spot would be between 11-1 Tennessee and 11-2 LSU. This is the difference between 2016. I 10000% believe Tennessee is a lock to be in the playoff as the #3 seed. I think the 1,2,3 seeds are locked right now. #4 is now in TCU's lane with 2-3 teams on their heels. If they drop a game, the 4th spot chaos grows....
 
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#49
I think we get picked over Oregon(if they are in the mix) because they and we lost to Georgia. Oregon's was a lot worse.
 
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